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Re: The fantasy match : Mayweather (2001) vs current Lomachenko (130)

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 10:53
by jamesmcdonnell
keithmoonhangover wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
He can hit, but he ain't a BIG hitter IMO.
Not a big single puncher no, but he was much more of an offensive machine back at 130. Good spiteful combination puncher.
I completely agree mate. I see Floyd winning a decision. What do you see as the most likely result?
I think the same, but it would be tight.

It's hard to say though, we've not even seen the best of Lomachenko yet, we know what Floyd can do, but we don't know what Lomachenko is capable of yet, he has some of the best footwork and timing I've ever seen, and he's very good coming forward, Floyd's Achilles heel was pressure, his closest fights were where he was kept busy by the other guys offence to the point where his own output diminished enough to lose rounds. Lomachenko exerts a lot of pressure, and is incredibly clever with it. I look forward to seeing what he goes on to do, he and GGG are my current favourites based on recent performances, superlative technicians.

Re: The fantasy match : Mayweather (2001) vs current Lomachenko (130)

Posted: 01 Dec 2016, 20:35
by Enlightened-One
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:
ValMar wrote: It is not important whether you (and other posters) like or dislike Mayweather and Lomachenko as persons.
What do you think about boxers (Floyd and Vasil) ?
I personally favour Floyd Mayweather Jr. , possibly by late stoppage at 130lbs.
Based on what? Mayweather ain't a big hitter and Lomanchenko isn't chinny.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. gained a professional record of 26-0 (20 KO’s), when he campaigned as a 130lb-er, competing in nine world championship fights and also defeating five world champions (one of them being a Hall-of-Famer).

Look at the names of some of the guys Money May stopped when he was a 130lb-er:
• Jesus Chavez
• Diego Corrales
• Carlos Gerena
• Justin Juuko
• Angel Manfredy
• Genaro Hernandez

For sure, Vasyl Lomachenko is a supremely talented guy, but I refuse to ignore the possibility that he could potentially be stopped by an all-time-great 130lb-er (in the form of Mayweather) who had proven himself to be a moderately destructive force at the weight.

To be fair though, I only used the phrase “possibly by late stoppage”, which surely clarifies my stance that Mayweather stopping Lomachenko was not a certainty.

Therefore, that is the reason why I thought my reasoning was obvious and reasonable… and it can be pretty tiresome sometimes to be persistently challenged to explain basic common-sense notions.

Re: The fantasy match : Mayweather (2001) vs current Lomachenko (130)

Posted: 02 Dec 2016, 13:16
by ValMar
I tried to imagine how to beat Floyd, and I couldn't...
I tried to imagine how to beat Vasil, and I couldn't....
Then, I opened this topic, and still, I don't know...