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Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 25 Jan 2017, 10:59
by PredatorHayds
Stuffs wrote:
PredatorHayds wrote:
Stuffs wrote:Undercard so far...

Brian Rose v Jack Arnfield
Martin J Ward v Maxi Hughes
Marcus Morrison v Jason Welborn
Tomi Tatham v Liam Conroy

I don't think that's too bad tbh, especially when they're probably gonna through Quigg on there too.
I really like the look of Rose-Arnfield.

Rose is a good fighter and a step up for Jack who is on a roll.
They're all pretty decent, evenly matched in my opinion, fights. Perfect for an undercard, though I know some would prefer Names v The Latvian Prison Canteen
Evenly matched cards will make a welcome return due to all the different broadcasters in the game.
I've always thought highly of Rose (more than most). I thought he won the macklin fight. Love to see him have one last run on televised tv.

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 06:12
by wesshaw1985
countdown is on...

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 19 Mar 2017, 06:59
by Andrew
Hope I am wrong but I have a bad feeling Linares is going to get robbed big time here.

He needs the stoppage and I really hope we get a good referee this time.

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 06:09
by Stuffs
Perhaps it's with it being post Bellew-Haye and pre Joshua-Klitschko, but it feels like this fight night is sliding under the radar a little bit. I suppose there's also the feeling it will be a foregone conclusion that the result will likely be the same, but still.

I like both guys though, I've got some hometown bias towards Crolla, but I'm really looking forward to this. I just hope there's nothing controversial and the winner is the right man. As Naandrew says, there is a faint whiff of 'robbery' in the air already.

Is there any word on the undercard replacements yet? I assume Hosea Burton will be getting a soft touch to come back from the Buglioni defeat, and what of Liam Conroy's replacement v Tomi Tatham? That was a nice even bout until Conroy took a daft decision to fight last week, doing little but getting a cut which ruled him out of this.

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 08:24
by thepocketrocket
Linares ain't superman. Kevin Mitchell was close to beating him. He is certainly fragile.

I am a Crolla fan, but all anyone wants is a fair result. The UK is becoming a joke for away fighters, and it is getting to the stage that no-one with a pulse would ever travel here for a 50-50 fight.

Crolla can win this. Let us hope if he does, he deserves it.

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 08:58
by Oiky
Linares will win again

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 08:58
by ozzy1875
thepocketrocket wrote:Linares ain't superman. Kevin Mitchell was close to beating him. He is certainly fragile.

I am a Crolla fan, but all anyone wants is a fair result. The UK is becoming a joke for away fighters, and it is getting to the stage that no-one with a pulse would ever travel here for a 50-50 fight.

Crolla can win this. Let us hope if he does, he deserves it.
The last fight was a fair result & there's no need for this rematch. I don't see how Crolla can win this fight, Linares was a worthy winner last time out, what can Crolla do differently?

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 09:16
by thepocketrocket
ozzy1875 wrote:
thepocketrocket wrote:Linares ain't superman. Kevin Mitchell was close to beating him. He is certainly fragile.

I am a Crolla fan, but all anyone wants is a fair result. The UK is becoming a joke for away fighters, and it is getting to the stage that no-one with a pulse would ever travel here for a 50-50 fight.

Crolla can win this. Let us hope if he does, he deserves it.
The last fight was a fair result & there's no need for this rematch. I don't see how Crolla can win this fight, Linares was a worthy winner last time out, what can Crolla do differently?
Rematch clause. It was a good fight, and both will make money off it.

You are obviously entitled to that opinion, and we will see on Saturday. I just feel some are in danger of overrating Linares, who many think had his last great performance, and was still only one lost round away from a draw last time.

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 09:20
by TheGingerBomber
A lot of people gave Santa Cruz little chance in the rematch, I'm hoping Crolla does the same. By necessarily fight the same way, just perform better, enough to throw off Linares and win back his title.

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 10:09
by lobes1863
Santa cruz completely changed his game plan from the first fight, just hope crolla can make the necessary adjustment to his aswell, linares isnt a three weight world champion for no reason though, so will be a tough ask for ant, i predict a late stoppage either way.

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 11:26
by Stuarty
Another fuckin awful undercard on Saturday!

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 13:04
by ozzy1875
Stuarty30 wrote:Another fuckin awful undercard on Saturday!
Abysmal, I've looked at the previous undercards in Manchester that Hearn has put on and they've been really poor. Check the Crolla Barroso undercard, it's an embarrassment. There's a better card on in three weeks at the Manchester Arena, main event aside.

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 13:12
by Twinkle Toes
ozzy1875 wrote:
The last fight was a fair result & there's no need for this rematch. I don't see how Crolla can win this fight, Linares was a worthy winner last time out, what can Crolla do differently?
I doubt he will do much differently, but team Crolla seem to be banking on Linares not being able to perform to the level of the first fight. If he doesn't, Crolla has a good chance, but the way Linares pulled away down the home straight last time there would need to be a big slip in form from Linares.

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 16:43
by Andrew
ozzy1875 wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Another fuckin awful undercard on Saturday!
Abysmal, I've looked at the previous undercards in Manchester that Hearn has put on and they've been really poor. Check the Crolla Barroso undercard, it's an embarrassment. There's a better card on in three weeks at the Manchester Arena, main event aside.
I was there !! not been to a big show since then was absolutely shocking had massive gaps as well fed up. Getting tickets for the April 8th show this week actually. Left it late in case anything got cancelled :roll:



Arnfield v Rose is ok. Will probably go 12, I think Brian is quite shot now and Jack Arnfield is on a decent run of form looked good last time and v Blackwell ( at very short notice).

Ward v Hughe just doesn't warrant a 3rd fight and Morrison v Welborn looks a bad mis match.

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 21 Mar 2017, 04:59
by handsofstone
Looking forward to this and I really hope Crolla can pull it off this time, he has a decent record in rematches TBF, Perez, Mathews and even Al Hamidi lol, he's a tough night for anyone and you know he wont stop trying and if he can land one of those body shots then it could take all the play away from Linares, Crolla needs to create the openings for the body shots this time though, he concentrated too much on downstairs last time and made no effort to try and hide it and Linares susses him out quickly, not to mention Crolla was coming off 2 back to back wins via body blows so i'd imagine it was something Linares and his team were conscious of coming into the fight, Crolla didn't let many head shots go last time so this time he should start upstairs then go down

I fancy the same outcome this time though, Linares just seems too quick for Crolla and its something Anthony struggled with, especially the handspeed, also Linares shown he can hurt him and outlast him down the stretch, I had him winning the 1st fight 117-111 so Crolla's gonna have to really improve to win(on my card at least)

All that being said Linares does have flaws though and can be hurt and if anyone can pull it off despite the physical disadvantages its Anthony Crolla :bag:

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 21 Mar 2017, 05:22
by Emmseegee
Is this a complete sell out?
Wouldnt mind getting last minute tickets but not at inflated stubhub prices.

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 21 Mar 2017, 05:46
by mickey1975
Emmseegee wrote:Is this a complete sell out?
Wouldnt mind getting last minute tickets but not at inflated stubhub prices.
No, StubHub do face value as well for Camp Eddie.

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 21 Mar 2017, 06:25
by Emmseegee
mickey1975 wrote:
Emmseegee wrote:Is this a complete sell out?
Wouldnt mind getting last minute tickets but not at inflated stubhub prices.
No, StubHub do face value as well for Camp Eddie.
Cheers for that info mate, i always assumed Stubhub would be adding a heavy % onto them.

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 21 Mar 2017, 07:34
by mickey1975
Emmseegee wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:
Emmseegee wrote:Is this a complete sell out?
Wouldnt mind getting last minute tickets but not at inflated stubhub prices.
No, StubHub do face value as well for Camp Eddie.
Cheers for that info mate, i always assumed Stubhub would be adding a heavy % onto them.
Top half isn't open, you'll get a very good seat for £80.

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 21 Mar 2017, 07:38
by Stuffs

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 21 Mar 2017, 12:06
by Fitzy901
I really hope Crolla pulls it off but cant see it. Think he has peaked now.

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 22 Mar 2017, 12:17
by wesshaw1985

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 22 Mar 2017, 13:14
by ozzy1875
Naandrew wrote:
ozzy1875 wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:Another fuckin awful undercard on Saturday!
Abysmal, I've looked at the previous undercards in Manchester that Hearn has put on and they've been really poor. Check the Crolla Barroso undercard, it's an embarrassment. There's a better card on in three weeks at the Manchester Arena, main event aside.
I was there !! not been to a big show since then was absolutely shocking had massive gaps as well fed up. Getting tickets for the April 8th show this week actually. Left it late in case anything got cancelled :roll:



Arnfield v Rose is ok. Will probably go 12, I think Brian is quite shot now and Jack Arnfield is on a decent run of form looked good last time and v Blackwell ( at very short notice).

Ward v Hughe just doesn't warrant a 3rd fight and Morrison v Welborn looks a bad mis match.
Completely agree, I fancy Jack Arnfield to do a number on Brian Rose, Arnfield flying and has momentum. Understand about the April 8th worry! It's a really good card, think there's a few TBA's that just haven't been given to Boxrec, never know why promoters leave it late. Think Mason Cartwright is in with Justin Menzie, who he had a technical draw with recently.

Don't mind Ward vs. Hughes fight but agree, it's nothing special and I'm unsure on Morrison vs. Welborn, I saw Morrison against Simone Lucas a couple of years and he really struggled, Welborn's experienced and could turn him over.

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 22 Mar 2017, 13:17
by Stuarty
ozzy1875 wrote:
Naandrew wrote:
ozzy1875 wrote:
Abysmal, I've looked at the previous undercards in Manchester that Hearn has put on and they've been really poor. Check the Crolla Barroso undercard, it's an embarrassment. There's a better card on in three weeks at the Manchester Arena, main event aside.
I was there !! not been to a big show since then was absolutely shocking had massive gaps as well fed up. Getting tickets for the April 8th show this week actually. Left it late in case anything got cancelled :roll:



Arnfield v Rose is ok. Will probably go 12, I think Brian is quite shot now and Jack Arnfield is on a decent run of form looked good last time and v Blackwell ( at very short notice).

Ward v Hughe just doesn't warrant a 3rd fight and Morrison v Welborn looks a bad mis match.
Completely agree, I fancy Jack Arnfield to do a number on Brian Rose, Arnfield flying and has momentum. Understand about the April 8th worry! It's a really good card, think there's a few TBA's that just haven't been given to Boxrec, never know why promoters leave it late. Think Mason Cartwright is in with Justin Menzie, who he had a technical draw with recently.

Don't mind Ward vs. Hughes fight but agree, it's nothing special and I'm unsure on Morrison vs. Welborn, I saw Morrison against Simone Lucas a couple of years and he really struggled, Welborn's experienced and could turn him over.
I hope Arnfield does Rose as well. I've never taken to Rose. He thinks he's way better than he is.

Re: Jorge Linares (c) vs. Anthony Crolla 2 - March 25th 2017

Posted: 22 Mar 2017, 13:21
by wesshaw1985
Stuarty30 wrote:
ozzy1875 wrote:
Naandrew wrote:
I was there !! not been to a big show since then was absolutely shocking had massive gaps as well fed up. Getting tickets for the April 8th show this week actually. Left it late in case anything got cancelled :roll:



Arnfield v Rose is ok. Will probably go 12, I think Brian is quite shot now and Jack Arnfield is on a decent run of form looked good last time and v Blackwell ( at very short notice).

Ward v Hughe just doesn't warrant a 3rd fight and Morrison v Welborn looks a bad mis match.
Completely agree, I fancy Jack Arnfield to do a number on Brian Rose, Arnfield flying and has momentum. Understand about the April 8th worry! It's a really good card, think there's a few TBA's that just haven't been given to Boxrec, never know why promoters leave it late. Think Mason Cartwright is in with Justin Menzie, who he had a technical draw with recently.

Don't mind Ward vs. Hughes fight but agree, it's nothing special and I'm unsure on Morrison vs. Welborn, I saw Morrison against Simone Lucas a couple of years and he really struggled, Welborn's experienced and could turn him over.
I hope Arnfield does Rose as well. I've never taken to Rose. He thinks he's way better than he is.
I didn't like the hissy fit after the Carson Jones loss...