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Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 10:31
by Stuarty
Autobarn wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Autobarn wrote:Yeah anyway we've seen Ricky Burns come back and have good fights or performances long after we've been fed up of him. So, boxing can surprise us, you never know.
But, have a feeling we saw the best of Smith vs Dodson and the first fight with Abraham and that after the rematch and especially the Ward fiasco, his connections rather than his achievements or ability are more to do with another title shot.
I'd rather see Callum built up with more purposeful fights and have his crack, which I believe he'll deliver the goods in as a tremendous offensive talent. I feel Callum is a hard enough puncher, and the guy to validate the Joe Gallagher style of patient, offensive fighting that some are so critical of.
Would love to see Paul in domestic fights, think there's some terrific fights out there for him - but he reminds me of Stephen Foster Jr, another guy from a considerable boxing family who seemed to have a feeling of entitlement that stopped him from having these tremendous fights at his own level.
Burns isn't a good example. He has had far better wins and even now well past his best is on another level to Paul Smith. I kind of get your point though.
Definitely Burns had better wins, way better. Didn't mean to make a direct comparison.
Just that I was truly fed up of Burns before he had that really good fight with Relikh. He wouldn't go away, like Freddy Kruger. In a similar manner Smith has worn very thin to me. And that both seem to get their chances regardless of their success. Maybe Smith will put in a strong showing, receive praise and validate his chance, who knows what can happen.
Smith is the least likely guy to get these chances because the second Abraham fight could easily have been "it" for him. As the rematch was no robbery, if the first even was that. Around this time, Joe Gallagher had said he'd put Smith in with anyone bar Andre Ward. Then he got a poo at Ward, a fight in which everything that could go wrong appeared to.
And now another it fight??
On the plus side, he's getting some paydays in a career that appeared to be going nowhere after the defeat to Bendall.
I get what you're saying mate

If I wasn't bias I'd probably feel the same lol
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 13:54
by giacomino
Smith has no business getting a title shot, but there also was no way Sauerland was going to let Zeuge fight a legitimate opponent anyway. He had never beaten anyone with a pulse before Sauerland brought by far the weakest of alphabet belt holders, De Carolis, to Germany to lose his belt to him.
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 14:03
by Stuarty
Paul Smith is fuckin hopeless
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 14:22
by Autobarn
Always felt if he and Macklin could've been at the same weight at the same time, it'd have been an outstanding fight and they'd bring the best out of each other.
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 14:24
by Stuarty
Autobarn wrote:Always felt if he and Macklin could've been at the same weight at the same time, it'd have been an outstanding fight and they'd bring the best out of each other.
Macklin could operate at world level and was worthy of his shots. Smith is a dud! He hasn't even got any stand out victories on his slate!
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 14:47
by Autobarn
They would have gelled really well in there, Smith being the bigger man
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 15:06
by CaptainSpacerod
He wouldn't be the worst fighter manoeuvred into a world title shot and good luck to him if he gets one but we know and he knows that he's British level at best regardless of whether he wins some tin pot bauble or not
This whole Sky lovefest with the Smith family has gone quite far enough for my liking. Yes it's a remarkable story blah blah blah. None of them are world class, maybe Callum is heading in that direction but he hasn't proved it yet. The worst thing about this situation is that when Paul's next on Sky droning on about some fight or other, the presenter will ask him with no hint of irony how preparations are going for his world title shot and how proud he will be to follow in Liam's footsteps and become a world champion and Paul will reply that he's always believed he would be a world champion and he was robbed in the Abraham fight blah blah blah and he's delighted to get the chance to prove that he's the best in the world blah blah blah and we have to sit there and listen to this guff as though it were true when we know it's nonsense, Paul knows it's nonsense and the interviewer knows it's nonsense.
Can't blame a guy for trying to earn a crust by bullsh1ttting gullible fans but Paul wouldn't win a British title these days and from a sporting perspective he should really retire
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 16:10
by Horse
CaptainSpacerod wrote:He wouldn't be the worst fighter manoeuvred into a world title shot and good luck to him if he gets one but we know and he knows that he's British level at best regardless of whether he wins some tin pot bauble or not
This whole Sky lovefest with the Smith family has gone quite far enough for my liking. Yes it's a remarkable story blah blah blah. None of them are world class, maybe Callum is heading in that direction but he hasn't proved it yet. The worst thing about this situation is that when Paul's next on Sky droning on about some fight or other, the presenter will ask him with no hint of irony how preparations are going for his world title shot and how proud he will be to follow in Liam's footsteps and become a world champion and Paul will reply that he's always believed he would be a world champion and he was robbed in the Abraham fight blah blah blah and he's delighted to get the chance to prove that he's the best in the world blah blah blah and we have to sit there and listen to this guff as though it were true when we know it's nonsense, Paul knows it's nonsense and the interviewer knows it's nonsense.
Can't blame a guy for trying to earn a crust by bullsh1ttting gullible fans but Paul wouldn't win a British title these days and from a sporting perspective he should really retire
Yet more of your hate-filled nonsense.
What's wrong with you?
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 16:22
by davie
CaptainSpacerod wrote:He wouldn't be the worst fighter manoeuvred into a world title shot and good luck to him if he gets one but we know and he knows that he's British level at best regardless of whether he wins some tin pot bauble or not
This whole Sky lovefest with the Smith family has gone quite far enough for my liking. Yes it's a remarkable story blah blah blah. None of them are world class, maybe Callum is heading in that direction but he hasn't proved it yet. The worst thing about this situation is that when Paul's next on Sky droning on about some fight or other, the presenter will ask him with no hint of irony how preparations are going for his world title shot and how proud he will be to follow in Liam's footsteps and become a world champion and Paul will reply that he's always believed he would be a world champion and he was robbed in the Abraham fight blah blah blah and he's delighted to get the chance to prove that he's the best in the world blah blah blah and we have to sit there and listen to this guff as though it were true when we know it's nonsense, Paul knows it's nonsense and the interviewer knows it's nonsense.
Can't blame a guy for trying to earn a crust by bullsh1ttting gullible fans but Paul wouldn't win a British title these days and from a sporting perspective he should really retire
Absolutely bang on the money!
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 16:28
by lefty
canonball1234 wrote:lefty wrote:canonball1234 wrote:Id love fight Paul at supermiddleweight (not cruiser) think he's there for the taking and past his best
Would you wear a "doing it for boxrec" T-shirt on the way to the ring?

Tweet it Eddie for his next show be happy put him as a full time pundit
Can you tweet Paul at all? I mean are you one of the 3 out of possible millions that he hasnt blocked already?!
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 19:05
by CaptainSpacerod
[quote="Horse"Yet more of your hate-filled nonsense.
What's wrong with you?[/quote]
Nonsense maybe but where's the hate ?
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 19:06
by crusader
davie wrote:CaptainSpacerod wrote:He wouldn't be the worst fighter manoeuvred into a world title shot and good luck to him if he gets one but we know and he knows that he's British level at best regardless of whether he wins some tin pot bauble or not
This whole Sky lovefest with the Smith family has gone quite far enough for my liking. Yes it's a remarkable story blah blah blah. None of them are world class, maybe Callum is heading in that direction but he hasn't proved it yet. The worst thing about this situation is that when Paul's next on Sky droning on about some fight or other, the presenter will ask him with no hint of irony how preparations are going for his world title shot and how proud he will be to follow in Liam's footsteps and become a world champion and Paul will reply that he's always believed he would be a world champion and he was robbed in the Abraham fight blah blah blah and he's delighted to get the chance to prove that he's the best in the world blah blah blah and we have to sit there and listen to this guff as though it were true when we know it's nonsense, Paul knows it's nonsense and the interviewer knows it's nonsense.
Can't blame a guy for trying to earn a crust by bullsh1ttting gullible fans but Paul wouldn't win a British title these days and from a sporting perspective he should really retire
Absolutely bang on the money!
x2
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 01 Jan 2017, 15:31
by Andrew
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 01 Jan 2017, 15:45
by Horse
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 01 Jan 2017, 16:01
by Stuarty
Horse wrote:Good.
Screw the haters.

Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 01 Jan 2017, 16:15
by Horse
Stuarty30 wrote: 
Same to you, jerkwad.
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 01 Jan 2017, 16:48
by bripez
Are the Smiths part of the Illuminati or something?
Are they just going to keep giving him title shots until under the law of averages he eventually manages to win one?
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 01 Jan 2017, 16:53
by Stuarty
Horse wrote:Stuarty30 wrote: 
Same to you, jerkwad.
Wind your neck in fornicate nut....
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 01 Jan 2017, 17:03
by mullenman
Total joke if the fat smith brother who hasnt won a decent fight in six years gets another big fight
Joke shop
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 01 Jan 2017, 17:43
by pimp
CaptainSpacerod wrote:He wouldn't be the worst fighter manoeuvred into a world title shot and good luck to him if he gets one but we know and he knows that he's British level at best regardless of whether he wins some tin pot bauble or not
This whole Sky lovefest with the Smith family has gone quite far enough for my liking. Yes it's a remarkable story blah blah blah. None of them are world class, maybe Callum is heading in that direction but he hasn't proved it yet. The worst thing about this situation is that when Paul's next on Sky droning on about some fight or other, the presenter will ask him with no hint of irony how preparations are going for his world title shot and how proud he will be to follow in Liam's footsteps and become a world champion and Paul will reply that he's always believed he would be a world champion and he was robbed in the Abraham fight blah blah blah and he's delighted to get the chance to prove that he's the best in the world blah blah blah and we have to sit there and listen to this guff as though it were true when we know it's nonsense, Paul knows it's nonsense and the interviewer knows it's nonsense.
Can't blame a guy for trying to earn a crust by bullsh1ttting gullible fans but Paul wouldn't win a British title these days and from a sporting perspective he should really retire
Spot on
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 01 Jan 2017, 17:44
by crusader
I wonder how far up the list Horse will move him if he loses...I remember that the AA rematch loss got him ranked a few spots higher.
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 01 Jan 2017, 18:36
by Horse
crusader wrote:I wonder how far up the list Horse will move him if he loses...I remember that the AA rematch loss got him ranked a few spots higher.
Are you 'One to watch'?
You are both gits.
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 01 Jan 2017, 18:53
by MarkMcBurney
DSW wrote:Sklar wrote:Paul is as worthy as anyone else to fight for one of these valueless belts.
As it stands i don't believe there is a Super champ?
So it's not
quite as worthless as some of the others.
Groves v Chudinov for super title
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 01 Jan 2017, 19:18
by Fitzy901
Ah well it's not even a proper world title anyway.
The funny thing is Zeuge will beat him prettu easily.
Re: Paul Smith World Title Shot - (No Joke)
Posted: 03 Jan 2017, 06:11
by Stuffs