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boxing_rocks wrote:

Tarkus wrote:Its safe to assume at this point that Povetkin was benefiting form non existent anti doping program in Russia in recent years. His body transformation and emphatic knockouts he scored since Klitschko fight likely to be attributed to his unrestrained doping. He needs to banned for life. Same could be true for Lebedev who with no medication looked weak in his last fight and perhaps other fighters. WBC should not sanction any fights in Russia unless it is done under a strict VADA monitoring.

So, Povetkin started doing what nearly every top athlete around the world does. Should be banned for life for that

Nonsense.

Jip wrote:and so manynon experts on this board had him as the second best heavyweight in the world lol...what a joke

They also crowned Ortiz as best ever...lot of stupid kids in this forum, unfortunately...

Ruthless-RKO wrote:http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/povetki ... now-372070

World of Boxing Promotions has announced that WBC #1 heavyweight Alexander Povetkin (30-1, 22 KOs) will now face WBC silver titlist Johann “Reptile” Duhaupas (34-3, 21 KOs) in the main event tonight at the Ekaterinburg Expo Center in Ekaterinburg, Russia. Duhaupas enters coming off an impressive KO over Robert Helenius in April and gave WBC champ Deontay Wilder a hard fight last year. He is rated #4 in both the WBC and IBF. It will be a nontitle fight and Duhaupas’ silver belt will not be on the line.

Duhaupas stepped in after Bermane Stiverne pulled out due to Povetkin failing a drug test and the WBC withdrawing world heavyweight interim title sanction as a result.

Some are just asking for it. He is going to fight a man known to be drugged in one day notice. See if I care when his skull cracks open. Its empty anyways.

Tyson Fury only tied up his belts twelve months, Povetkin has tied up the WBC for over two years with his nonsense. He should be forced to give up his mandatory position or have a wiaver written into any future contract that results in an immediate million dollar cash penalty for a fight that doesnt take place due to an adverse drug test.

marvelous marv wrote:Tyson Fury only tied up his belts twelve months, Povetkin has tied up the WBC for over two years with his nonsense. He should be forced to give up his mandatory position or have a wiaver written into any future contract that results in an immediate million dollar cash penalty for a fight that doesnt take place due to an adverse drug test.

Povetkin is history at WBC...he was on actual probation and failed it.

Just read previous WBC ruling over his previous fail.

Tarkus wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

Tarkus wrote:Its safe to assume at this point that Povetkin was benefiting form non existent anti doping program in Russia in recent years. His body transformation and emphatic knockouts he scored since Klitschko fight likely to be attributed to his unrestrained doping. He needs to banned for life. Same could be true for Lebedev who with no medication looked weak in his last fight and perhaps other fighters. WBC should not sanction any fights in Russia unless it is done under a strict VADA monitoring.

So, Povetkin started doing what nearly every top athlete around the world does. Should be banned for life for that

Nonsense.

I agree: what you said is nonsense.

boxing_rocks wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
So, Povetkin started doing what nearly every top athlete around the world does. Should be banned for life for that

Nonsense.

I agree: what you said is nonsense.

I said that what you said is nonsense.

..I feel sorry for the boxing fans who actually bought tickets and expected a clean fight..and especially for this dude who'll have to spend an extra night in Ekaterinburg (-24 C):

Tarkus wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

Tarkus wrote: Nonsense.

I agree: what you said is nonsense.

I said that what you said is nonsense.

Stiverne took doping and was allowed to fight for the WBC belt anyway

Tarkus wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

Tarkus wrote: Nonsense.

I agree: what you said is nonsense.

I said that what you said is nonsense.

Now you are saying nonsense again

boxing_rocks wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
I agree: what you said is nonsense.

I said that what you said is nonsense.

Now you are saying nonsense again

As said before, when Stiverne was caught cheating it was no problem for the WBC.

asdfjkl wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

Tarkus wrote: I said that what you said is nonsense.

Now you are saying nonsense again

As said before, when Stiverne was caught cheating it was no problem for the WBC.

It was different stuff tho

Unbiased Expert wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
Now you are saying nonsense again

As said before, when Stiverne was caught cheating it was no problem for the WBC.

It was different stuff tho

I'm not even sure if Povetkin currently has any stuff in his body at all and it's not even about the stuff, it's about the case. Stiverne used some illegal substance(s) in front of a doping tester and by saying he didn't realise, the WBC allowed the fight to carry on.

Stiverne tested positive recently and the wbc ignored it - clearly the wbc and sulaiman are being manipulated by haymon - haymon controls stiverne via king in case you didn't know - king has zero leverage in boxing today and has to bow to haymon - expect stiverne to take a dive vs wilder in 2017

What's weird about Stiverne's positive test is that he claims he used the product in front of the drug tester, in order to make himself urinate. Sounds pretty convenient: I know I took this substance and it will show up, so I'm going to take it right now so I have my "excuse" lined up and can say it was an honest mistake. And he gets let off the hook with a fine.

Who knows what is up with Povetkin. The Meldonium thing I can understand and was blown way out of proportion. It was very recently banned and no one knew how long it stayed in the body. Osterine has been banned for ages though. Povetkin just slipped up, or the testing agencies are getting better at their job. If they'd tested like this 10, 20 years ago we would have seen all sorts of fights cancelled. Maybe boxers have to adjust to the new reality?

I'm angrier @ Stiverne. He backed out !

Russia is such a garbage country filled with garbage humans.

Tony1244 wrote:I'm angrier @ Stiverne. He backed out !

He didn't want to fight for nothing.

Povetkin is meme worthy, this guy can't stop juicin lol

LMAO @ dipsticks like asdfjkl, boxing rocks, and montrealsuper......trying to spin and/or justify Pedvedkin and his juicing. Stiverne drank an energy drink ffs! You would think as much money as Ryabinski has he would have paid off someone to hide the test results. Ban the fornicating cheat Povetkin forever. You know, maybe Wilder was right - the russians are a "different breed" of people. Certainly their fans are.

Wait.......its all Haymon's fault!

Ruthless-RKO wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:I'm angrier @ Stiverne. He backed out !

He didn't want to fight for nothing.

Wouldn't Stiverne still have gotten paid? Didn't he give up his payday?

jockpunk wrote:Russia is such a garbage country filled with garbage humans.

Why the hell is Povetkin still allowed to fight? Any other country and his licence gets suspended.

Badhusker wrote:LMAO @ dipsticks like asdfjkl, boxing rocks, and montrealsuper......trying to spin and/or justify Pedvedkin and his juicing. Stiverne drank an energy drink ffs! You would think as much money as Ryabinski has he would have paid off someone to hide the test results. Ban the effing cheat Povetkin forever. You know, maybe Wilder was right - the russians are a "different breed" of people. Certainly their fans are.

Wait.......its all Haymon's fault!

Relax kid, there isn't even a positive test of Stiverne, remarkeble isn't it? He's only cought redhanded taking in illegal substances, but for some odd reason never received a positive dopingtest. Povetkin on the other side probably never took anything and it takes them ages before they realise he's innocent all the time.

asdfjkl wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: I even doubt if it's true at all, it's obvious that the Americans are bullshitting, with Stiverne cheating no problem, now claiming Povetkin failed a dopingtest, just like last time, when he turned out to be 100% innocent as well.

It's bullshit, the Americans are simply scared, can't make much else of it.

No, it is not bullshit. It is a blatant neglect or incompetence in following procedures to properly hide PEDs usage. Povetkin should hire Wilder's "nutritionist".

Stiverne was busted while taking the doping in, in front of the doping agency and he was still allowed to fight from the WBC, in other words this is total bullshit, Wada/Vada failed to do a proper job last time as well, when Povetkin eventually turned out to be innocent, I wouldn't be surprised if they "screwed up" again.

Because he was on a stimulant, not something similar to anabolic steroids.