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Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 16:24
by Horse
Rob3_142 wrote:Also this list is so good, it has Pulev twice...
That was clearly to symbolise that Pulev is twice the fighter that Joshua is.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 17:13
by Rob3_142
Horse wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:Also this list is so good, it has Pulev twice...
That was clearly to symbolise that Pulev is twice the fighter that Joshua is.
Or the guy is a bit of a numb nuts?

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 17:48
by Cap
jezzamundo wrote:BWH Rankings as of 18 November 2016:

Champion in Recess: Tyson Fury
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Anthony Joshua
5. Luis Ortiz
6. Kubrat Pulev
7. Joseph Parker
8. Bryant Jennings
9. Carlos Takam
10. Vyacheslav Glazkov
11. Lucas Browne
12. Andy Ruiz
13. Dillian Whyte
14. Dereck Chisora
15. Bermane Stiverne

Topic A - The following fighters have been inactive for a period of one year or more:
Tyson Fury (no fight scheduled)
Wladimir Klitschko (has a fight scheduled with Anthony Joshua for 29 April 2017)
Bryant Jennings (no fight scheduled)
Bermane Stiverne (pulled out of a fight last weekend due to his opponent failing a drug test)
How should this affect their rankings?

My vote:

Fury - OUT (title becomes vacant)
W.Klitschko - remains at #1
Jennings - OUT
Stiverne - remains at #15

Topic B - How are the rankings affected by Alexander Povetkin's KO6 win over Johann Duhaupas?

My vote: abstain - I'm not sure what to make of his recent failed drug test

Topic C - Lucas Browne has failed a second drug test - how does this affect his ranking?

My vote: abstain - same reason


Note: This topic is for voting on the rankings of T.Fury, W.Klitschko, Jennings, Stiverne, Povetkin, Duhaupas and Browne. Posting your own top 15 will not count as a vote. Please cast your vote in the manner that I have done above.
Boxing is in such a mess right now you could easily turn your current rankings upside down and no one would really care.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 17:53
by Rob3_142
Cap wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:BWH Rankings as of 18 November 2016:

Champion in Recess: Tyson Fury
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Anthony Joshua
5. Luis Ortiz
6. Kubrat Pulev
7. Joseph Parker
8. Bryant Jennings
9. Carlos Takam
10. Vyacheslav Glazkov
11. Lucas Browne
12. Andy Ruiz
13. Dillian Whyte
14. Dereck Chisora
15. Bermane Stiverne

Topic A - The following fighters have been inactive for a period of one year or more:
Tyson Fury (no fight scheduled)
Wladimir Klitschko (has a fight scheduled with Anthony Joshua for 29 April 2017)
Bryant Jennings (no fight scheduled)
Bermane Stiverne (pulled out of a fight last weekend due to his opponent failing a drug test)
How should this affect their rankings?

My vote:

Fury - OUT (title becomes vacant)
W.Klitschko - remains at #1
Jennings - OUT
Stiverne - remains at #15

Topic B - How are the rankings affected by Alexander Povetkin's KO6 win over Johann Duhaupas?

My vote: abstain - I'm not sure what to make of his recent failed drug test

Topic C - Lucas Browne has failed a second drug test - how does this affect his ranking?

My vote: abstain - same reason


Note: This topic is for voting on the rankings of T.Fury, W.Klitschko, Jennings, Stiverne, Povetkin, Duhaupas and Browne. Posting your own top 15 will not count as a vote. Please cast your vote in the manner that I have done above.
Boxing is in such a mess right now you could easily turn your current rankings upside down and no one would really care.
Bermane Stiverne number 1!!

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 18:10
by Heretic
Fury out.

It will be long time before hes back to ring. If he ever will be.

Klitchko no change

Inactivity is not hes own fault.

Jennings out.

If he gets back to ring he should soon be back on this list.

Stiverne no change

I think he is still in the game and will probably fight again soon.

Povetkin no change.

All top boxers are doped to the eye balls. Some get caught some don't.

Browne no change.

Taking methylhexanamine might be just a mistake. It is found in many supplements and can be taken by accident or stupidity.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 22:46
by BitPlayer
Rob3_142 wrote:
BitPlayer wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: But, then who has Jennings, Ruiz, Wilder ever beaten?
Jennings beat Artur Szpilka and Mike Perez (though I don't know much about him), Ruiz put in a very credible performance vs Parker, and Wilder has beaten Stiverne, Szpilka, and Duhaupas. Though I do think Joshua should be in the top 10. He's shown enough for that.
Yeah but are Jennings, Ruiz and Takam's wins that good that they push Joshua out the top 10?

Also this list is so good, it has Pulev twice...
Like I said, I'm not convinced. Clearly Pulev is in a quantum superposition.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 23 Dec 2016, 08:47
by Rob3_142
BitPlayer wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
BitPlayer wrote: Jennings beat Artur Szpilka and Mike Perez (though I don't know much about him), Ruiz put in a very credible performance vs Parker, and Wilder has beaten Stiverne, Szpilka, and Duhaupas. Though I do think Joshua should be in the top 10. He's shown enough for that.
Yeah but are Jennings, Ruiz and Takam's wins that good that they push Joshua out the top 10?

Also this list is so good, it has Pulev twice...
Like I said, I'm not convinced. Clearly Pulev is in a quantum superposition.
Put you're convinced about Jennings, Ruiz and Takam? I'm not saying you have to take Joshua to the top, I'm just saying credit, where credit is due.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 23 Dec 2016, 09:56
by BitPlayer
Rob3_142 wrote:
BitPlayer wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:
Yeah but are Jennings, Ruiz and Takam's wins that good that they push Joshua out the top 10?

Also this list is so good, it has Pulev twice...
Like I said, I'm not convinced. Clearly Pulev is in a quantum superposition.
Put you're convinced about Jennings, Ruiz and Takam? I'm not saying you have to take Joshua to the top, I'm just saying credit, where credit is due.
I already said I think Joshua is top 10.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 24 Dec 2016, 06:23
by keirw
Horse wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:Based on Joshua's current resume, where would you place him in the rankings?
It's a secret.
:lol:

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 11:12
by jezzamundo
Votes have been tallied, Fury and Jennings drop out through inactivity, Browne is out, Stiverne stays and rises one spot to #13 due to Jennings's and Browne's departure, Wlad remains at #1, Povetkin remains at #2.

Champion: VACANT
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Anthony Joshua
5. Luis Ortiz
6. Kubrat Pulev
7. Joseph Parker
8. Carlos Takam
9. Vyacheslav Glazkov
10. Andy Ruiz
11. Dillian Whyte
12. Dereck Chisora
13. Bermane Stiverne
14. VACANT
15. VACANT

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings CLOSED

Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 11:22
by the_doctor
Are you planning to take nominations for #14 and #15?

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings CLOSED

Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 11:44
by jezzamundo
the_doctor wrote:Are you planning to take nominations for #14 and #15?
Yes, I will make a new thread for it.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 19:38
by Horse
jezzamundo wrote:Votes have been tallied, Fury and Jennings drop out through inactivity, Browne is out, Stiverne stays and rises one spot to #13 due to Jennings's and Browne's departure, Wlad remains at #1, Povetkin remains at #2.

Champion: VACANT
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Anthony Joshua
5. Luis Ortiz
6. Kubrat Pulev
7. Joseph Parker
8. Carlos Takam
9. Vyacheslav Glazkov
10. Andy Ruiz
11. Dillian Whyte
12. Dereck Chisora
13. Bermane Stiverne
14. VACANT
15. VACANT
These rankings have no credibility without Tyson Fury.

Tyson Fury is the champion.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 19:45
by jezzamundo
Horse wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:Votes have been tallied, Fury and Jennings drop out through inactivity, Browne is out, Stiverne stays and rises one spot to #13 due to Jennings's and Browne's departure, Wlad remains at #1, Povetkin remains at #2.

Champion: VACANT
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Anthony Joshua
5. Luis Ortiz
6. Kubrat Pulev
7. Joseph Parker
8. Carlos Takam
9. Vyacheslav Glazkov
10. Andy Ruiz
11. Dillian Whyte
12. Dereck Chisora
13. Bermane Stiverne
14. VACANT
15. VACANT
These rankings have no credibility without Tyson Fury.

Tyson Fury is the champion.
If someone had replaced Fury as champion I would agree with you. He is no longer an active boxer, he has dropped his belts, been inactive for over a year and tested positive for a banned (though not performance enhancing) substance. No question that he is still the lineal champion.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 19:50
by Horse
jezzamundo wrote:If someone had replaced Fury as champion I would agree with you. He is no longer an active boxer, he has dropped his belts, been inactive for over a year and tested positive for a banned (though not performance enhancing) substance. No question that he is still the lineal champion.
Klitschko's just as inactive.

12 months is not a long time to be out of the ring in boxing.

People need to get over this 12 months inactivity nonsense.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 25 Dec 2016, 20:32
by jezzamundo
Horse wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:If someone had replaced Fury as champion I would agree with you. He is no longer an active boxer, he has dropped his belts, been inactive for over a year and tested positive for a banned (though not performance enhancing) substance. No question that he is still the lineal champion.
Klitschko's just as inactive.

12 months is not a long time to be out of the ring in boxing.

People need to get over this 12 months inactivity nonsense.
True, though Klitschko's inactivity is through absolutely no fault of his own - he wanted to fight. According to the rules I made for these rankings, 12 months of inactivity and a fighter's ranking is up for vote. Generally if they have a fight scheduled, or have been inactive due to injury, they are left in.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 26 Dec 2016, 09:35
by Rob3_142
Horse wrote:These rankings have no credibility without Tyson Fury.

Tyson Fury is the champion.
Your post has no credibility. The mob has spoken.