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Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 13:00
by Nightmare Roy
liamlion wrote:
Horse wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:What makes you challenge his intelligence?
Have you seen him being interviewed?
AJ is far more articulate than Fury and AJ's bank balance will very likely be 5 times greater, and thats without having had to fight the division king. Not to mention Fury's 2 failed drugs tests in the past 15 months and inevitable ban.. If there is a idiot amongst the pair then the smart money would strongly suggest that Fury wins that accolade and quite comfortably too... :TU:
AJ is clearly much smarter than Fury, Fury just makes a knob of himself again and again and looses fan's by the day. AJ knows how to play the game, hence why he can sell out Wembely. I used to really like Fury and I spent months trying to defend him but in the end you have to give up.

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 13:01
by Boxerbeetle
Nightmare Roy wrote:
liamlion wrote:
Horse wrote:Have you seen him being interviewed?
AJ is far more articulate than Fury and AJ's bank balance will very likely be 5 times greater, and thats without having had to fight the division king. Not to mention Fury's 2 failed drugs tests in the past 15 months and inevitable ban.. If there is a idiot amongst the pair then the smart money would strongly suggest that Fury wins that accolade and quite comfortably too... :TU:
AJ is clearly much smarter than Fury, Fury just makes a knob of himself again and again and looses fan's by the day. AJ knows how to play the game, hence why he can sell out Wembely. I used to really like Fury and I spent months trying to defend him but in the end you have to give up.
Fury is much smarter than Joshua, he just prefers to act like an idiot sometimes.

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 13:05
by Nightmare Roy
Boxerbeetle wrote:
Nightmare Roy wrote:
liamlion wrote:
AJ is far more articulate than Fury and AJ's bank balance will very likely be 5 times greater, and thats without having had to fight the division king. Not to mention Fury's 2 failed drugs tests in the past 15 months and inevitable ban.. If there is a idiot amongst the pair then the smart money would strongly suggest that Fury wins that accolade and quite comfortably too... :TU:
AJ is clearly much smarter than Fury, Fury just makes a knob of himself again and again and looses fan's by the day. AJ knows how to play the game, hence why he can sell out Wembely. I used to really like Fury and I spent months trying to defend him but in the end you have to give up.
Fury is much smarter than Joshua, he just prefers to act like an idiot sometimes.
What makes you say that? AJ might not be an exciting character but he seems like a thinker and he knows what's what.

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 13:05
by Mimmy
Horse wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:Has Tyson Fury been to school being a 'traveller'? It would be interesting to know what academic qualifications AJ and Tyson have, that should settle the debate about being an idiot.
Not really.
Can you give me a definition of the word idiot then Horse so I have something I can argue with, otherwise the word can mean lots of ways to describe a person. Im not being perdantic by the way.

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 13:16
by Horse
mimmy123 wrote:Can you give me a definition of the word idiot then Horse so I have something I can argue with, otherwise the word can mean lots of ways to describe a person. Im not being perdantic by the way.
I don't want to debate.

Joshua seems like an idiot to me.

I don't care what other people think.

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 13:22
by Rob3_142
Horse wrote:I don't want to debate.
Just another way to say "I was wrong, but I don't want to admit it"...

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 13:24
by Horse
Rob3_142 wrote:Just another way to say "I was wrong, but I don't want to admit it"...
How did you work that one out?

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 13:41
by Mimmy
Horse wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:Can you give me a definition of the word idiot then Horse so I have something I can argue with, otherwise the word can mean lots of ways to describe a person. Im not being perdantic by the way.
I don't want to debate.

Joshua seems like an idiot to me.

I don't care what other people think.
Comeon horse, youve said something surely you have to give a reasonable answer to the questions? Why say something then not repsond to perfectly reasonable questions?

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 13:43
by Rob3_142
Horse wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:Just another way to say "I was wrong, but I don't want to admit it"...
How did you work that one out?
You're usually happy to argue your point of view. Why not this time?

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 13:55
by Horse
Rob3_142 wrote:You're usually happy to argue your point of view. Why not this time?
Because it's a dumb argument.

We're going to count his GCSEs and try to estimate his IQ?

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 13:56
by Noxy
I hope he is coming back. He's a major asset to the heavyweight mix

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 13:58
by Mimmy
Horse wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:You're usually happy to argue your point of view. Why not this time?
Because it's a dumb argument.

We're going to count his GCSEs and try to estimate his IQ?
That would determine who was academically better, which then could argue who was more intelligent, thats how it works isnt it?

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 14:02
by Horse
mimmy123 wrote:That would determine who was academically better, which then could argue who was more intelligent, thats how it works isnt it?
No.

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 14:04
by keithmoonhangover
mimmy123 wrote:
Horse wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:You're usually happy to argue your point of view. Why not this time?
Because it's a dumb argument.

We're going to count his GCSEs and try to estimate his IQ?
That would determine who was academically better, which then could argue who was more intelligent, thats how it works isnt it?
Gonna disagree on that. Someone I know has no degree, no diploma, no A levels, no O levels, just a handful of CSE's and yet he has an IQ of 170+. He didn't do well at school because of outside circumstances. You can have intelligence without qualifications.

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 14:09
by Boxerbeetle
keithmoonhangover wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:
Horse wrote:Because it's a dumb argument.

We're going to count his GCSEs and try to estimate his IQ?
That would determine who was academically better, which then could argue who was more intelligent, thats how it works isnt it?
Gonna disagree on that. Someone I know has no degree, no diploma, no A levels, no O levels, just a handful of CSE's and yet he has an IQ of 170+. He didn't do well at school because of outside circumstances. You can have intelligence without qualifications.
Some of the stupidest people I know are extremely highly qualified. People can be educated far above their intelligence level.

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 14:13
by dirk2686
Boxerbeetle wrote:Some of the stupidest people I know are extremely highly qualified. People can be educated far above their intelligence level.
Perhaps but there are different ways of measuring intelligence. IQ tests? Traditional school exams? General knowledge? People can look really clever by being brilliant at pub quizzes for example.

Then there's being smart, in the sense of making the best of what you have been dealt and not haphazardly messing up time and time again. I'm not remotely concerned about Fury's intelligence or lack of, but it doesn't seem to have been a particularly smart career path of late.

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 14:17
by Rob3_142
Horse wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:You're usually happy to argue your point of view. Why not this time?
Because it's a dumb argument.

We're going to count his GCSEs and try to estimate his IQ?
You was the one that brought Joshua's intelligence into question. You look a bit silly now.

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 14:23
by rd350lc
Horse wrote:
mimmy123 wrote:Can you give me a definition of the word idiot then Horse so I have something I can argue with, otherwise the word can mean lots of ways to describe a person. Im not being perdantic by the way.
I don't want to debate.

Joshua seems like an idiot to me.

I don't care what other people think.
Now there is a suprise , Horse doesn't care what other people think. :confused: I'm sure you would call him an idiot to his face .

What has Joshua done in any way shape or form to suggest he is an idiot ?

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 14:26
by Mimmy
There has been good arguments for how to judge the level of itelligence but im still not clear on how AJ ia an idiot?

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 14:28
by Horse
Rob3_142 wrote:You was the one that brought Joshua's intelligence into question. You look a bit silly now.
:roll:

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 14:41
by davie
I'm sorry guys but if anyone thinks counting GCSE's is a definitive measure of someones intelligence, it's their IQ I'd be bringing into question.

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 14:42
by davie
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Horse wrote:
rossij8 wrote:If WK smashes AJ to pieces then Furys win will be deemed incredible, possibly
Of course, the only way anything can be incredible is if Joshua is involved.
Horse, what do you think will happen about the drug tests and licence issues?
Horse appears to have effectively body swerved this question.

I too would be intrigued to find his view on this matter

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 14:51
by Boxerbeetle
davie wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Horse wrote:Of course, the only way anything can be incredible is if Joshua is involved.
Horse, what do you think will happen about the drug tests and licence issues?
Horse appears to have effectively body swerved this question.

I too would be intrigued to find his view on this matter
Horse loses all rational perspective when it comes to Fury, so his answer will be interesting indeed.

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 14:58
by davie
Boxerbeetle wrote:
davie wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Horse, what do you think will happen about the drug tests and licence issues?
Horse appears to have effectively body swerved this question.

I too would be intrigued to find his view on this matter
Horse loses all rational perspective when it comes to Fury, so his answer will be interesting indeed.
Never!
Horse always gives fair, considered and balance opinions on all.

I value him as a poster and hold his opinions in the highest regard.

As such, I eagerly anticipate his wise and learned response

Re: Can we rank him again?

Posted: 27 Dec 2016, 15:09
by Rob3_142
davie wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
davie wrote:
Horse appears to have effectively body swerved this question.

I too would be intrigued to find his view on this matter
Horse loses all rational perspective when it comes to Fury, so his answer will be interesting indeed.
Never!
Horse always gives fair, considered and balance opinions on all.

I value him as a poster and hold his opinions in the highest regard.

As such, I eagerly anticipate his wise and learned response
:OhYes: