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Re: Best finisher of all time...
Posted: 14 Feb 2017, 15:42
by Flump
Kalan wrote:Hagler wasn't that spectacular a KO guy IMO... He finished the chinny Hearns and that's the one that gives him the reputation.
But Hagler never got the smaller Leonard or Duran going... And he never got old Benny Briscoe, or beaten up Marcos Geraldo going... Geraldo had been knocked out 10 times before... Rodrigo Valdes smashed a young Benny Briscoe out with a tremendous left hook at 1:31 of this video.. Start it about 1:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujf3ld5HhcA
Hagler was a cumulative puncher, but once he had an opponent going they rarely got out of trouble.
No fighter whose career ran it's full course finishes everyone.
Re: Best finisher of all time...
Posted: 14 Feb 2017, 23:58
by elmersalsa
Flump wrote:Kalan wrote:Hagler wasn't that spectacular a KO guy IMO... He finished the chinny Hearns and that's the one that gives him the reputation.
But Hagler never got the smaller Leonard or Duran going... And he never got old Benny Briscoe, or beaten up Marcos Geraldo going... Geraldo had been knocked out 10 times before... Rodrigo Valdes smashed a young Benny Briscoe out with a tremendous left hook at 1:31 of this video.. Start it about 1:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujf3ld5HhcA
Hagler was a cumulative puncher, but once he had an opponent going they rarely got out of trouble.
No fighter whose career ran it's full course finishes everyone.
BIG MISTAKE by saying that Flump. Now, Kalan probably is going to counter with Edwin Valero as the greatest finisher of all time and all that crap.
Re: Best finisher of all time...
Posted: 15 Feb 2017, 14:41
by Sidney Carton
Kalan wrote: Marciano knocked old Light Heavyweight Archie more down numerous times before stopping him - so he wasn't that fabulous a finisher... Beterbiev is a bigger Light Heavyweight than Rocky was -- and he crushes you with a shot
You missed Marciano's fights with Walcott, Rex Layne, and second fight with Charles.
Re: Best finisher of all time...
Posted: 18 Feb 2017, 07:29
by Kalan
Syntax Error wrote:Mike Tyson - if he had you going, you were gone.
I can only think of Douglas who survived & that was in the 8th when Tyson was tired.
He couldn't finish guys like Quick Tillis, James Smith, Razor Ruddock, and Tony Tucker either... Not to mention the guys who trashed and stopped Mike.
Re: Best finisher of all time...
Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 15:38
by Syntax Error
Kalan wrote:Syntax Error wrote:Mike Tyson - if he had you going, you were gone.
I can only think of Douglas who survived & that was in the 8th when Tyson was tired.
He couldn't finish guys like Quick Tillis, James Smith, Razor Ruddock, and Tony Tucker either... Not to mention the guys who trashed and stopped Mike.
You could say that about every boxer that was KO artist & lost or went the distance.
He never had Tillis, Smith, Ruddock (rematch) & Tucker ready to go.
What I said initially stands; apart from Douglas (who wasn't very hurt & was fresher than Tyson) can you remember a time when Tyson had an opponent down & very hurt that he didn't finish?
Re: Best finisher of all time...
Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 01:19
by Kalan
Yeah... Ruddock was down and hurt... Also very hittable... Tyson couldn't get him out... Too big and strong like an ox.
Of course when he faced Lewis he got crushed... A much better finisher who also finished Tyson.