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Lairdy wrote:

AntonS wrote:ANBF Rules

34. SCORING

(1)
Scoring shall be by the ‘Ten Points Must’ system. Winner of the round must be awarded ten points while the loser receives anywhere from nine to six points, depending on the decisiveness by which the round was won.

(2)
Even round 10 – 10
Slight edge 10 – 9
Wide edge 10 – 8
One-sided 10 – 7
Overwhelming 10 – 6
(One-point deduction is mandatory for a knockdown)

(3)
The elements of the number of blows landed, clean hitting, weight of blows, offence, defence, ring generalship and sportsmanship shall be considered. A clean knockdown will command a one-point advantage to the boxer delivering such a blow, apart from other points gained or lost in that round.

(4) Scoring blow is a punch landed on the scoring part of the body, such being neither deflected nor partially blocked, and landed with a closed knuckle part of the glove.

(5)
The scoring part of the body is the front and side parts of the body formed by an imaginary line starting from the top of the head, splitting the ears and running down the shoulders and sides and across the front of the body to the top of hip bones (belt line)

(6)
Drawn round should be avoided whenever possible unless, after all elements are taken into account, a judge cannot separate the boxers.

So, if there is a knock down, the "one point deduction is mandatory"... All's i learnt from Friday night was that when a referee gives a one point deduction for a foul, it doesn't mean anything. Nor does any of the criteria in rule 3.

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AntonS wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

Yes is does and you know It does the 70 year old Mr Minn scored round 7 10-9 Mundine as did the second judge who scored a draw after 10 he had round 7 10-9 Mundine then both these judge's took the 1 point off Green that then made their round 7 score 10-8 Mundine the other bloke who ended up with a win for Green after 10 96-94 had round 7 10-10 even and from what I watched Mundine won round 7 so I then take the point deduction that round is also 10-8 Mundine so instead of a 96-94 after 10 Mr Amnesia final score should have read 94-94 so at the very best for Team Green it should have been a draw as for the ref and the 5 minute rest that's the corners fault not just the ref by the way does anyone know who picked the ref and the three judge's

Good question. Judge Ferrauto is South Oz boxing & kickboxing judge/referee. My understating, unless "world title" overseas appointees are disallowed in every State.

What is your view on the effect of changing a round on a scorecard from 9-9 to 10-10?

Perhaps you can explain how that can possibly change the final verdict on that judges card - that is who he has winning, losing or drawing the fight?

I'm no mathematician, but I'm calling bull5hit on that one. All it means is bigger totals at the bottom of the card but the verdict remains unchanged and the number of points between the fighters remains unchanged as well.

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:

AntonS wrote:Good question. Judge Ferrauto is South Oz boxing & kickboxing judge/referee. My understating, unless "world title" overseas appointees are disallowed in every State.

What is your view on the effect of changing a round on a scorecard from 9-9 to 10-10?

Perhaps you can explain how that can possibly change the final verdict on that judges card - that is who he has winning, losing or drawing the fight?

I'm no mathematician, but I'm calling bull5hit on that one. All it means is bigger totals at the bottom of the card but the verdict remains unchanged and the number of points between the fighters remains unchanged as well.

Its what it is instead of 10-10 that judge should have had round 7 already 10-9 Mundine he then takes the one point then that judge card will read round 7 10-8 Mundine just like his off-sider's so then the forgetful Judges card after 10 round should have said 94-94 instead of 96-94 the fight would have been a draw

buster007 wrote:you are all wasting your time.

the judge didn't take a point off on the scores cause he knew that it was a joke that the ref took it off in the first place.

you should be thanking the judge for using common sense.

remember this same ref did NOT give green time to recover after an illegal dog coward king hit even though he was severely concussed.

Like a Boss wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:
What is your view on the effect of changing a round on a scorecard from 9-9 to 10-10?

Perhaps you can explain how that can possibly change the final verdict on that judges card - that is who he has winning, losing or drawing the fight?

I'm no mathematician, but I'm calling bull5hit on that one. All it means is bigger totals at the bottom of the card but the verdict remains unchanged and the number of points between the fighters remains unchanged as well.

Its what it is instead of 10-10 that judge should have had round 7 already 10-9 Mundine he then takes the one point then that judge card will read round 7 10-8 Mundine just like his off-sider's so then the forgetful Judges card after 10 round should have said 94-94 instead of 96-94 the fight would have been a draw

This is how the judges scored round 7

Morrow – Originally scored the round to Green 10-9. Deducted a point as directed by the referee making his score 9-9 and an even round. He then entered 10-10. Still an even round, but both fighters a point higher.

Ferrauto – Originally scored the round to Mundine 10-9. Deducted a point as directed by the referee making his score 10-8. He then entered 10-8 on his card.

Minn – Originally scored the round to Mundine 10-9. Deducted a point as directed by the referee making his score 10-8. He then entered 10-8 on his card.

Conclusion:

1/ Every judge deducted Green a point in the 7th round.
2/ By increasing his score for the round from 9-9 to 10-10 Morrow only effectively increased each fighter’s score by one.
3/ Changing the score for a round from 9-9 to 10-10 has no effect on who wins, loses or draws a fight. The gap between the fighter's scores remains exactly the same.

buster007 wrote:you are all wasting your time.

the judge didn't take a point off on the scores cause he knew that it was a joke that the ref took it off in the first place.

you should be thanking the judge for using common sense.

remember this same ref did NOT give green time to recover after an illegal dog coward king hit even though he was severely concussed.

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

Its what it is instead of 10-10 that judge should have had round 7 already 10-9 Mundine he then takes the one point then that judge card will read round 7 10-8 Mundine just like his off-sider's so then the forgetful Judges card after 10 round should have said 94-94 instead of 96-94 the fight would have been a draw

This is how the judges scored round 7

Morrow – Originally scored the round to Green 10-9. Deducted a point as directed by the referee making his score 9-9 and an even round. He then entered 10-10. Still an even round, but both fighters a point higher.

Ferrauto – Originally scored the round to Mundine 10-9. Deducted a point as directed by the referee making his score 10-8. He then entered 10-8 on his card.

Minn – Originally scored the round to Mundine 10-9. Deducted a point as directed by the referee making his score 10-8. He then entered 10-8 on his card.

Conclusion:

1/ Every judge deducted Green a point in the 7th round.
2/ By increasing his score for the round from 9-9 to 10-10 Morrow only effectively increased each fighter’s score by one.
3/ Changing the score for a round from 9-9 to 10-10 has no effect on who wins, loses or draws a fight. The gap between the fighter's scores remains exactly the same.

No No No this is what happened the judge that I call Amnesia got the gitter's he thought he was rocking up to Adelaide and this sh.t was going to be like taking candy from a baby he got the shock of his judging career when he soon realised how big this fight was on a local stage he must have thought because it meant nothing outside of Australia that it meant the same here nothing Slowly but surely it all dawned upon him that the crowd might not be very happy with his suspect judging and the thousand's that payed for the rort at home once this got into his empty head the sh.t really hit the fan man and he sh.t himself got himself into one all mighty pickle people are known for crumbling under pressure especially when they are coward's.................And by the way I don't blame Green for any of the imposter that pretended that they were professional boxing judge's and we all know about the ref he gets a 1/10 for his performance both Fighter's deserved to go out better then this but I still think they should sail off into the sunset

AntonS wrote:The fight was always a frigging farce, which concluded as such.
Be stuffed if I know why Green's title defence was sanctioned, given it was common knowledge 83kgs was set weight limit.
Unless contesting vacant title, one simply can't dictate such. Champ has the right to weigh at 90.7kg limit.

Like a Boss wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:
This is how the judges scored round 7

Morrow – Originally scored the round to Green 10-9. Deducted a point as directed by the referee making his score 9-9 and an even round. He then entered 10-10. Still an even round, but both fighters a point higher.

Ferrauto – Originally scored the round to Mundine 10-9. Deducted a point as directed by the referee making his score 10-8. He then entered 10-8 on his card.

Minn – Originally scored the round to Mundine 10-9. Deducted a point as directed by the referee making his score 10-8. He then entered 10-8 on his card.

Conclusion:

1/ Every judge deducted Green a point in the 7th round.
2/ By increasing his score for the round from 9-9 to 10-10 Morrow only effectively increased each fighter’s score by one.
3/ Changing the score for a round from 9-9 to 10-10 has no effect on who wins, loses or draws a fight. The gap between the fighter's scores remains exactly the same.

No No No this is what happened the judge that I call Amnesia got the gitter's he thought he was rocking up to Adelaide and this sh.t was going to be like taking candy from a baby he got the shock of his judging career when he soon realised how big this fight was on a local stage he must have thought because it meant nothing outside of Australia that it meant the same here nothing Slowly but surely it all dawned upon him that the crowd might not be very happy with his suspect judging and the thousand's that payed for the rort at home once this got into his empty head the sh.t really hit the fan man and he sh.t himself got himself into one all mighty pickle people are known for crumbling under pressure especially when they are coward's.................And by the way I don't blame Green for any of the imposter that pretended that they were professional boxing judge's and we all know about the ref he gets a 1/10 for his performance both Fighter's deserved to go out better then this but I still think they should sail off into the sunset

Changing the score for a round from 9-9 to 10-10 has no effect on who wins, loses or draws the fight

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

No No No this is what happened the judge that I call Amnesia got the gitter's he thought he was rocking up to Adelaide and this sh.t was going to be like taking candy from a baby he got the shock of his judging career when he soon realised how big this fight was on a local stage he must have thought because it meant nothing outside of Australia that it meant the same here nothing Slowly but surely it all dawned upon him that the crowd might not be very happy with his suspect judging and the thousand's that payed for the rort at home once this got into his empty head the sh.t really hit the fan man and he sh.t himself got himself into one all mighty pickle people are known for crumbling under pressure especially when they are coward's.................And by the way I don't blame Green for any of the imposter that pretended that they were professional boxing judge's and we all know about the ref he gets a 1/10 for his performance both Fighter's deserved to go out better then this but I still think they should sail off into the sunset

Changing the score for a round from 9-9 to 10-10 has no effect on who wins, loses or draws the fight

Look mate its not worth arguing about a man lost his life after this fight and when the first fight was on another man lost his life I don't really give a sh.t its a sport and when people do these type of things and say certain things it not worth the trouble round 7 Mundine won the judge for f.ck sake should have given that round 10-8 to Mundine like the other two honest chap's but like I said we should all take a look at our self in the mirror some time today.

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ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:
Changing the score for a round from 9-9 to 10-10 has no effect on who wins, loses or draws the fight

Look mate its not worth arguing about a man lost his life after this fight and when the first fight was on another man lost his life I don't really give a sh.t its a sport and when people do these type of things and say certain things it not worth the trouble round 7 Mundine won the judge for f.ck sake should have given that round 10-8 to Mundine like the other two honest chap's but like I said we should all take a look at our self in the mirror some time today.

You start by saying " its not worth arguing about" and then continue arguing about it. WTF?

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:WHY DOES ANGELO WANT ANOTHER FIGHT

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:WHY DOES ANGELO WANT ANOTHER FIGHT

DA GOOSE wrote:They made $4 million each and there's talk of Green having a brain bleed. Angelo's not taking the punches they're both 40+ they should both retire.

bogan whisperer wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote:They made $4 million each and there's talk of Green having a brain bleed. Angelo's not taking the punches they're both 40+ they should both retire.

Funny, you were playing down the damage done to Green :

"Though I think upon 2nd viewing of the 1st round Green exaggerated his concussion and won the 4 rounds after ''the concussion''.

Yet now, so as you can point the finger at Hyder, you are suddenly concerned for Green's health.

Careful your agendas are causing you to conflict your own 'opinion.'

DA GOOSE wrote:

bogan whisperer wrote:

DA GOOSE wrote:They made $4 million each and there's talk of Green having a brain bleed. Angelo's not taking the punches they're both 40+ they should both retire.

Funny, you were playing down the damage done to Green :

"Though I think upon 2nd viewing of the 1st round Green exaggerated his concussion and won the 4 rounds after ''the concussion''.

Yet now, so as you can point the finger at Hyder, you are suddenly concerned for Green's health.

Careful your agendas are causing you to conflict your own 'opinion.'

There's talk of it (doesn't mean there is) regardless a man who has already retired twice before to protect himself and his family in the future and his trainer is talking another fight.