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Good, let the bum retire.

x2x wrote:None of the phony western gangster boxing outfits have Povetkin ranked!


http://www.fightnews.com/rankings-2

They try ot to rank ones ranked by other organizations, so he was ranked by the WBC so no others ranked him, not he's suspended.

x2x wrote:None of the phony western gangster boxing outfits have Povetkin ranked!


http://www.fightnews.com/rankings-2

Many of the ranks are absolutely simply weird...
WBC:
Andriy Rudenko
Kyotaro Fujimoto
Charles Martin
Eric Molina
Chris Arreola
What did these guys do to deserve a rank?


WBA:
Alexander Ustinov (highest rated guy he ever won against was Michael Sprott back in 2009!)
Manuel Charr (fighting a bunch of cruiserweights appearantly gets you a high rank in the heavyweight division)
Andrey Fedosov (had Donovan Dennis as his best victory ever)

IBF:
Vyacheslav Glazkov (appearantly fighting a bunch of cruiserweights a long time ago still gives you a high rank)
Robert Helenius (even Duhaupas can handle him...)
Andriy Rudenko (Sorry, but he didn't even stand a chance against Hughie Fury when Hughie barely wasn't a teenager any more)
Eric Molina (still? After that beatdown? Wasn't it obvious enough?)

WBO:
Edmund Gerber (the Edmund Gerber who lost against Michael Sprott? Yes that one!)
Razvan Cojanu (I honestly didn't have a clue who this was and I know quite a bunch of names in the heavyweight division, appearantly he lost a fight against Donovan Dennis, who himself isn't even ranked at all any more by boxrec)
Kyotaro Fujimoto (Who had a very very lucky win against "Nobuhiro Ishida" who spend most of his carreer in the super welterweight division? Nobuhiro Ishida had a middleweight division fight in august 2013, then skipped 4 weightdivisions, all the way to heavyweight and then splitt decision lost against Kyotaro Fujimoto in april 2015 who's now allowed to fight for a world title?

At the same time, neither Fury, no Povetkin, no Jennings, no Browne, no Granat, no Agit Kabayel, no Oscar Rivas, no Otto Wallin, no Bogdan Dinu?
Even Trey Lippe, or Tyrone Spong deserve a spot more as many of the names named by these organisations.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Wilder isn't a cash cow. That fight was 5 fights worth of money for him. Too bad Povetkins too dumb to properly cheat.

The plan is to keep Wilder unbeaten for the next at least 5 yrs - So the short term Povetkin $ was easy to sacrifice for the long term "fix" plan - and yes you can be sure the plan is to fix all of Wilder's fights for the next 5 yrs - Stiverne/Brazile/etc etc etc - it will be all Al Haymon controlled patsies for Fraud Wilder despite the lip service bulljive about fighting Joshua or Parker or WK - WBC likes the long term business plan by Haymon and is on board - what will be interesting is to see how povetkin and ryabinsky accept or fight this corruption?

Ryabinsky is going to pay wilder his purse. Dibella will split it with him and that will be that.im sure you and your merry gang of crayon eaters will still be howling irrational tears, probably forever.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ryabinsky is going to pay wilder his purse. Dibella will split it with him and that will be that.im sure you and your merry gang of crayon eaters will still be howling irrational tears, probably forever.

That would only work if the American law system is completely corrupt, otherwise justice will happen over time.

asdfjkl wrote:That would only work if the American law system is completely corrupt, otherwise justice will happen over time.

You got it right the first time.

Povetkin just followed the footsteps of Holyfield, his idol.

Early in his career, Povetkin seemed like one of the few non juicers in the sport. After the Wlad loss, he simply leveled the playing field.

Blodhemn wrote:Povetkin just followed the footsteps of Holyfield, his idol.

Early in his career, Povetkin seemed like one of the few non juicers in the sport. After the Wlad loss, he simply leveled the playing field.

Big difference, evander never got caught. Only the truly stupid seem to.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Blodhemn wrote:Povetkin just followed the footsteps of Holyfield, his idol.

Early in his career, Povetkin seemed like one of the few non juicers in the sport. After the Wlad loss, he simply leveled the playing field.

Big difference, evander never got caught. Only the truly stupid seem to.

That was the good ole era of weak testing. I'm not even sure if they would've tested for Holyfield's drug of choice, HGH. Povetkin likely doesn't care either way, which is why he keeps getting caught.

Blodhemn wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Blodhemn wrote:Povetkin just followed the footsteps of Holyfield, his idol.

Early in his career, Povetkin seemed like one of the few non juicers in the sport. After the Wlad loss, he simply leveled the playing field.

Big difference, evander never got caught. Only the truly stupid seem to.

That was the good ole era of weak testing. I'm not even sure if they would've tested for Holyfield's drug of choice, HGH. Povetkin likely doesn't care either way, which is why he keeps getting caught.

I remember laughing when evander started working with Lee Haney. His old show on ESPN was great, as was body shaping with the ridiculously hot Kiana.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I remember laughing when evander started working with Lee Haney. His old show on ESPN was great, as was body shaping with the ridiculously hot Kiana.

Those shows were like the only thing to watch during the morning hours.

Blodhemn wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I remember laughing when evander started working with Lee Haney. His old show on ESPN was great, as was body shaping with the ridiculously hot Kiana.

Those shows were like the only thing to watch during the morning hours.

Absolutely, now I have 1,000 channels and all I watch is sports and law and order reruns. I'd watch Haney now, repping 1,000 lbs on the bench. I'm feeling it! It's burning!

asdfjkl wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ryabinsky is going to pay wilder his purse. Dibella will split it with him and that will be that.im sure you and your merry gang of crayon eaters will still be howling irrational tears, probably forever.

That would only work if the American law system is completely corrupt, otherwise justice will happen over time.

Justice in this life doesn't always happen -- as badly as we hunger and thirst for it.

Justice didn't happen for a great many people when the Nazi's ruled Germany. At times evil triumphs over good. That’s the way of this world. The bad guys’ lies, deceptions, and payoffs often win a judgment and gleeful snorkels and high 5’s are exchanged all around -- like Hitler doing a jig in front of laughing generals when Paris burned. However, the ultimate curve of the universe tends toward justice. Judgment Day will come for all, well before “forever” gets here. Forever is Eternity after all. And compared to Eternity a lifetime is but a grain of sand in the Sahara Desert.

boxing_rocks wrote:

dempseyfire wrote:There is a strange reactionary nationalism in Russia, which Putin and his media puppets encourage, in which anytime a Russian is found to have done something wrong, it's because of some grand "Western" conspiracy. You saw the same reaction with the Olympic cheating scandal.

WADA must be ruled by Russians

https://www.rt.com/sport/378572-mclaren ... ufficient/

Russia Today . . Completely unbiased source.

And WADA not pursuing formal charges has nothing to do with them being innocent. They probably got Wikileaks to dig up dirt on their board . .if they can help sway a presidential election a drug testing agency is small potatoes!

Povetkin ducked Wlad forever and this is when Povetkin was #1 contender and Wlad was champion !

Povetkin has always had strange behavior. Would the promoters go through all this trouble sabotaging a guy who struggled with Marco Huck?

dempseyfire wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

dempseyfire wrote:There is a strange reactionary nationalism in Russia, which Putin and his media puppets encourage, in which anytime a Russian is found to have done something wrong, it's because of some grand "Western" conspiracy. You saw the same reaction with the Olympic cheating scandal.

WADA must be ruled by Russians

https://www.rt.com/sport/378572-mclaren ... ufficient/

Russia Today . . Completely unbiased source.

And WADA not pursuing formal charges has nothing to do with them being innocent. They probably got Wikileaks to dig up dirt on their board . .if they can help sway a presidential election a drug testing agency is small potatoes!

Open your eyes and find my subsequent post with a Reuters link.

We're talking about WESTERN entities when we're talking about WADA, VADA, and the WBC... ALL of them reluctantly ruled that Alexander Povetkin of Russia WAS NOT GUILTY of any PED use at any time leading up to the Wilder fight -- and admitted the fight could have gone forward in the first place.

The findings of an American jury, in an American court room, defended by an American lawyer, who may have been paid off---we just don't know... We have no idea why he didn't put on any defense---or subpoena any officers from VADA, WADA, or the WBC to absolutely substantiate Povetkin’s innocence in a multi-million dollar lawsuit. Or put on expert witnesses to refute the lying expert witness who Judd Burstine put on the stand and paid extremely handsomely for his lies.

dempseyfire wrote:They probably got Wikileaks to dig up dirt on their board . .if they can help sway a presidential election a drug testing agency is small potatoes!

F off with your Hillary-bama snowflake bull$hit about the evil Russians hiding in the walls and under the bed who "sway a presidential election" !

Povetkin ducked Wlad forever and this is when Povetkin was #1 contender and Wlad was champion !

No he didn't duck Wlad forever. He fought Wlad - and as big a fan of Wlad as I am he was hanging on like an octopus that night. Povetkin is the one who should be fighting Wlad in a rematch, not Joshua, who has never beaten one single genuine top contender.

We're talking about WESTERN entities when we're talking about WADA, VADA, and the WBC...

And the court too. Like I said Russia should pull out of the crooked western alphabet gangs and las vegas drug gangs and new york city courts and make their own sports organizations along with other countries who are also fed up with the blatant sulaiman and haymon and king and goodman and hbo and showtime and all the rest of that corruption.

x2x wrote:

dempseyfire wrote:They probably got Wikileaks to dig up dirt on their board . .if they can help sway a presidential election a drug testing agency is small potatoes!

F off with your Hillary-bama snowflake bull$hit about the evil Russians hiding in the walls and under the bed who "sway a presidential election" !

Povetkin ducked Wlad forever and this is when Povetkin was #1 contender and Wlad was champion !

Snowflakes? Who bitches and moans constantly about the "biased media" and tries to scapegoat excuses for every critique of their "dear leaders" to the point of inventing "alternative facts"? Putin/Trump fans . . two peas in a pod.

Lol a Russian anti-doping agency . .that'd be the gold standard, hahahaha. Thanks for the laughs.

dempseyfire wrote:

x2x wrote:

dempseyfire wrote:They probably got Wikileaks to dig up dirt on their board . .if they can help sway a presidential election a drug testing agency is small potatoes!

F off with your Hillary-bama snowflake bull$hit about the evil Russians hiding in the walls and under the bed who "sway a presidential election" !

Povetkin ducked Wlad forever and this is when Povetkin was #1 contender and Wlad was champion !

Snowflakes? Who bitches and moans constantly about the "biased media" and tries to scapegoat excuses for every critique of their "dear leaders" to the point of inventing "alternative facts"? Putin/Trump fans . . two peas in a pod.

Lol a Russian anti-doping agency . .that'd be the gold standard, hahahaha. Thanks for the laughs.

The FACT that Povetkin ducked Wlad years ago partly due to Teddy Atlas saying he "Wasn't ready," has what to do with Putin and Trump? Neither of whom I like incidentally.

dempseyfire wrote:
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Lol a Russian anti-doping agency . .that'd be the gold standard, hahahaha. Thanks for the laughs.

Sure you are right the anti-doping agency has to be located in honest Las Vegas...the most corrupt and crooked city in the world - run by the Mafia, founded by the Mafia, who's only reason to even exist in the middle of the Mohave desert is to fleece the suckers. Hahahaha yeah right thanks for the laughs. And oh yeah of course you're right, the media isn't biased either. Thanks for the laughs.

Tony1244 wrote: The FACT that Povetkin ducked Wlad years ago partly due to Teddy Atlas saying he "Wasn't ready," has what to do with Putin and Trump? Neither of whom I like incidentally.

Why Povetkin hooked up with that low life Atlas is beyond me. I still can't get my head around that one. And he tried to ruin him too. But if he had stayed hooked up with the "insiders" like Atlas and the tv networks Doctor Margaret Goodman and her VADA wouldn't have planted drugs on him...or maybe he would have ended up like Sergei Kobozev.

x2x wrote:

Tony1244 wrote: The FACT that Povetkin ducked Wlad years ago partly due to Teddy Atlas saying he "Wasn't ready," has what to do with Putin and Trump? Neither of whom I like incidentally.

Why Povetkin hooked up with that low life Atlas is beyond me. I still can't get my head around that one. And he tried to ruin him too. But if he had stayed hooked up with the "insiders" like Atlas and the tv networks Doctor Margaret Goodman and her VADA wouldn't have planted drugs on him...or maybe he would have ended up like Sergei Kobozev.

Atlas may be an egomaniac but why would he want to ruin Povetkin? Why would Goodman even bother planting drugs on him? He's not that important.

Tony1244 wrote: Atlas may be an egomaniac but why would he want to ruin Povetkin? Why would Goodman even bother planting drugs on him? He's not that important.

Atlas isn't just an egomaniac, he's a homicidal criminal, and Povetkin definitely is important because they - like Atlas and the New York-Las Vegas-London boxing-tv mob - know very well that he could knock off their cash cows and take the title to Russia.