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Enlightened-One wrote:

Jip wrote:Styles make fights. Had floyd brawl with canelo or maidana he wouldve get tko'd.

Had ohara fight from outside, quick in and out, than he surly wouldve won. Instead he decided to fight close up with a guy who has a good hook and who likes to fight close range and thats what happened.

So you're saying that if O'hara had adopted a competely different fighting style, one that we've never previously seen him employ before and is probably incapable of doing, then he wouldn't have lost to Taylor?

I think you're simply trying to dig yourself a giant hole.

It's like saying that if Andre Berto had better physical attributes, had much more skill, better handspeed, better timing, better strategy, fantastic foortwork, incredible ring generalship and vastly heavier-handed, then he would have beaten Floyd Mayweather Jr!

Jip wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

Jip wrote:Styles make fights. Had floyd brawl with canelo or maidana he wouldve get tko'd.

Had ohara fight from outside, quick in and out, than he surly wouldve won. Instead he decided to fight close up with a guy who has a good hook and who likes to fight close range and thats what happened.

So you're saying that if O'hara had adopted a competely different fighting style, one that we've never previously seen him employ before and is probably incapable of doing, then he wouldn't have lost to Taylor?

I think you're simply trying to dig yourself a giant hole.

It's like saying that if Andre Berto had better physical attributes, had much more skill, better handspeed, better timing, better strategy, fantastic foortwork, incredible ring generalship and vastly heavier-handed, then he would have beaten Floyd Mayweather Jr!

Incapable of boxing from outside haha

Boxerbeetle wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Naandrew wrote:

Fair play to Taylor he made me look silly. I was clearly wrong here.

Nothing wrong with being wrong mate, as long as you didn't go so far as to say Davis was better than Terence Crawford

HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote:

Jip wrote:Styles make fights. Had floyd brawl with canelo or maidana he wouldve get tko'd.

Had ohara fight from outside, quick in and out, than he surly wouldve won. Instead he decided to fight close up with a guy who has a good hook and who likes to fight close range and thats what happened.

You make a rod for your own back with all the "I'm an expert" garbage but at least you stick around and face up to the gloating when you get one (embarrassingly) wrong. It's a decently admirable quality. even if in this case it just means we can laugh at you more.

As for the fight, Davies doesn't have the footspeed nor balance to perform the game plan you've laid out. He tried boxing at long range but after the first round he was getting picked apart. He had to try to slug it out because it was the only way he had any kind of chance at all. Taylor is just a better fighter, close range or long.

Speaking of British prospects, what's your opinion of Anthony Yarde? Hasn't fought at any kind of level yet but seems like the kind of fighter you tend to like: fast, athletic, relaxed but aggressive, good power. Might be worth a look.

Jip wrote:

HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote:

Jip wrote:Styles make fights. Had floyd brawl with canelo or maidana he wouldve get tko'd.

Had ohara fight from outside, quick in and out, than he surly wouldve won. Instead he decided to fight close up with a guy who has a good hook and who likes to fight close range and thats what happened.

You make a rod for your own back with all the "I'm an expert" garbage but at least you stick around and face up to the gloating when you get one (embarrassingly) wrong. It's a decently admirable quality. even if in this case it just means we can laugh at you more.

As for the fight, Davies doesn't have the footspeed nor balance to perform the game plan you've laid out. He tried boxing at long range but after the first round he was getting picked apart. He had to try to slug it out because it was the only way he had any kind of chance at all. Taylor is just a better fighter, close range or long.

Speaking of British prospects, what's your opinion of Anthony Yarde? Hasn't fought at any kind of level yet but seems like the kind of fighter you tend to like: fast, athletic, relaxed but aggressive, good power. Might be worth a look.

He didnt get picked apart in 1 rd. Rd 1 nothing happened at all.

With the physical advantages he has over taylor the win would have been certain. O has terrible technique and 0 defence trying to imitate floyd. With his left arm being down at his waist, face completly open.

He is just green. Swinging wild to ko as quick as possible. Might work with d level but not for b-c level. If he work on his counter punching, punch variation and how to effective save energy than o would easily ud or tko taylor. Taylor has a good guard, solid controlled technique, a good c level boxer.

world ranked wrote:

Jip wrote:

HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote:
You make a rod for your own back with all the "I'm an expert" garbage but at least you stick around and face up to the gloating when you get one (embarrassingly) wrong. It's a decently admirable quality. even if in this case it just means we can laugh at you more.

As for the fight, Davies doesn't have the footspeed nor balance to perform the game plan you've laid out. He tried boxing at long range but after the first round he was getting picked apart. He had to try to slug it out because it was the only way he had any kind of chance at all. Taylor is just a better fighter, close range or long.

Speaking of British prospects, what's your opinion of Anthony Yarde? Hasn't fought at any kind of level yet but seems like the kind of fighter you tend to like: fast, athletic, relaxed but aggressive, good power. Might be worth a look.

He didnt get picked apart in 1 rd. Rd 1 nothing happened at all.

With the physical advantages he has over taylor the win would have been certain. O has terrible technique and 0 defence trying to imitate floyd. With his left arm being down at his waist, face completly open.

He is just green. Swinging wild to ko as quick as possible. Might work with d level but not for b-c level. If he work on his counter punching, punch variation and how to effective save energy than o would easily ud or tko taylor. Taylor has a good guard, solid controlled technique, a good c level boxer.

Do you agree Josh Taylor has better physical skills than Davies?

Jip wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Jip wrote:
He didnt get picked apart in 1 rd. Rd 1 nothing happened at all.

With the physical advantages he has over taylor the win would have been certain. O has terrible technique and 0 defence trying to imitate floyd. With his left arm being down at his waist, face completly open.

He is just green. Swinging wild to ko as quick as possible. Might work with d level but not for b-c level. If he work on his counter punching, punch variation and how to effective save energy than o would easily ud or tko taylor. Taylor has a good guard, solid controlled technique, a good c level boxer.

Do you agree Josh Taylor has better physical skills than Davies?

What a stupid question

world ranked wrote:

Jip wrote:

world ranked wrote:
Do you agree Josh Taylor has better physical skills than Davies?

What a stupid question

Stupid question you said Ohara Davies had better/equal skill than Crawford. I pretty sure that's much more stupid.

Jip wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Jip wrote:
What a stupid question

Stupid question you said Ohara Davies had better/equal skill than Crawford. I pretty sure that's much more stupid.

I wrote that o has physical advantages over taylor and than you ask me if i aggree that taylor has better physical skills than davis, stupid?

And wrong again. I never said he had equal skill as craw. I said he was more athletic with equal reach.

Jip wrote:

HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote:
You make a rod for your own back with all the "I'm an expert" garbage but at least you stick around and face up to the gloating when you get one (embarrassingly) wrong. It's a decently admirable quality. even if in this case it just means we can laugh at you more.

As for the fight, Davies doesn't have the footspeed nor balance to perform the game plan you've laid out. He tried boxing at long range but after the first round he was getting picked apart. He had to try to slug it out because it was the only way he had any kind of chance at all. Taylor is just a better fighter, close range or long.

Speaking of British prospects, what's your opinion of Anthony Yarde? Hasn't fought at any kind of level yet but seems like the kind of fighter you tend to like: fast, athletic, relaxed but aggressive, good power. Might be worth a look.

He didnt get picked apart in 1 rd. Rd 1 nothing happened at all.

With the physical advantages he has over taylor the win would have been certain. O has terrible technique and 0 defence trying to imitate floyd. With his left arm being down at his waist, face completly open.

He is just green. Swinging wild to ko as quick as possible. Might work with d level but not for b-c level. If he work on his counter punching, punch variation and how to effective save energy than o would easily ud or tko taylor. Taylor has a good guard, solid controlled technique, a good c level boxer.

handsofstone wrote:Is thread a pisstake? surely, some amount of mince being spouted from the boy Jip, CS is a haven for nutters

Covfefe wrote:

crusader wrote:I dont like to throw it in people's faces, and Im wrong plenty myself, but I really have no idea how people couldve watched Davies and think he was world class and/or on a different level to Taylor. He's got loads of technical flaws (e.g very wide punches from too far out), his footwork is plodding, he's a bit short for 140, and he isnt particulary fast handed or big punching.

To me he's a poor man's Broner, and I found it striking how he was being talked about on the world scene even though he'd never fought beyond English level prior to Scarpa and shopworn Matthews. I think he partially gobbed himself into that...

Let's see how he comes back from being outclassed, beaten up, and stopped. Even he admitted that it was an embarrassing loss,

Did he? What else did he say, did he say why he was gesturing to his eye. Or was he just wanting a way out?

Stuarty30 wrote:He's not even the best in Britain. Josh Taylor will slap him around

Jip wrote:is it just me or does he seem more athletic, with equal reach and closly as much power as crawford

Jip wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Jip wrote:
What a stupid question

Stupid question you said Ohara Davies had better/equal skill than Crawford. I pretty sure that's much more stupid.

I wrote that o has physical advantages over taylor and than you ask me if i aggree that taylor has better physical skills than davis, stupid?

And wrong again. I never said he had equal skill as craw. I said he was more athletic with equal reach.

In the know 85 wrote:

crusader wrote:

In the know 85 wrote:

He doesn't have one tenth of Crawfords skill, but does hit twice as hard.

Based on? Who are the best few opponents he's stopped? Shot Derry Matthews and ?

Stylistically he reminds me far more of Peter Qullin than Crawford

Crawford can't punch for nothing, Ohara hits harder, it's a fact, deal with it