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crusader wrote:No kidding, davie.

And trash about Bellew out-hearting Haye? Utter nonsense....Haye was winning clearly until he sustained/aggravated the injury. Tony took his shots well and did what he had to do, but without that injury I think it's very unlikely that he wins.

gp. wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:

gp. wrote:

I once knocked out Muhammad Ali, you know.

Sure, he was 70 years old, had Parkinson's disease, was sitting in his chair not expecting it and looking the other way at the time but who cares - that's his problem. I did what I had to do.

This result seems to have really stung you. Brace yourself for more painful nights if Haye continues.

I don't give a damn either way for Haye. I just can't understand how people can't see what's in front of their faces.

TheCobra wrote:It was a pathetic fight, a farce, neither man come out with credit. Haye conned us all with carrying an injury, Bellew couldn't finish a man barely able to walk.

Tuan_Jim wrote:

gp. wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:
This result seems to have really stung you. Brace yourself for more painful nights if Haye continues.

I don't give a damn either way for Haye. I just can't understand how people can't see what's in front of their faces.

I think we've probably been spoilt with heavyweight heroics. Tommy Morrison splattering Joe Hipp in spite of two broken hands and a broken jaw. Danny Williams whacking Potter with his arm dangling out of its socket. Ali throwing through the 'black lights.' Haye is a very hard man but there's a bit of the self-preservation sick note about him, which while entirely sane is not what people want from their heavyweight warriors.

gp. wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:

gp. wrote:

I don't give a damn either way for Haye. I just can't understand how people can't see what's in front of their faces.

I think we've probably been spoilt with heavyweight heroics. Tommy Morrison splattering Joe Hipp in spite of two broken hands and a broken jaw. Danny Williams whacking Potter with his arm dangling out of its socket. Ali throwing through the 'black lights.' Haye is a very hard man but there's a bit of the self-preservation sick note about him, which while entirely sane is not what people want from their heavyweight warriors.

I'm not really concerned with that either. In terms of the result, Haye simply wasn't able to compete due to injury. In a team sport you would just bring on a sub.

If Andy Murray got an injury like that and lost to a guy ranked 100 in the world because he couldn't run, nobody would say it was a triumph for the ranked 100 in the world guy. It's just a thing. It's disappointing, it wasn't a proper contest, it happened. move on. Haye's bravery or otherwise is neither here nor there

gp. wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:

gp. wrote:

I don't give a damn either way for Haye. I just can't understand how people can't see what's in front of their faces.

I think we've probably been spoilt with heavyweight heroics. Tommy Morrison splattering Joe Hipp in spite of two broken hands and a broken jaw. Danny Williams whacking Potter with his arm dangling out of its socket. Ali throwing through the 'black lights.' Haye is a very hard man but there's a bit of the self-preservation sick note about him, which while entirely sane is not what people want from their heavyweight warriors.

I'm not really concerned with that either. In terms of the result, Haye simply wasn't able to compete due to injury. In a team sport you would just bring on a sub.

If Andy Murray got an injury like that and lost to a guy ranked 100 in the world because he couldn't run, nobody would say it was a triumph for the ranked 100 in the world guy. It's just a thing. It's disappointing, it wasn't a proper contest, it happened. move on. Haye's bravery or otherwise is neither here nor there

TheCobra wrote:

gp. wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:
I think we've probably been spoilt with heavyweight heroics. Tommy Morrison splattering Joe Hipp in spite of two broken hands and a broken jaw. Danny Williams whacking Potter with his arm dangling out of its socket. Ali throwing through the 'black lights.' Haye is a very hard man but there's a bit of the self-preservation sick note about him, which while entirely sane is not what people want from their heavyweight warriors.

I'm not really concerned with that either. In terms of the result, Haye simply wasn't able to compete due to injury. In a team sport you would just bring on a sub.

If Andy Murray got an injury like that and lost to a guy ranked 100 in the world because he couldn't run, nobody would say it was a triumph for the ranked 100 in the world guy. It's just a thing. It's disappointing, it wasn't a proper contest, it happened. move on. Haye's bravery or otherwise is neither here nor there

Agree with this to be honest. It's just a let down, a disappointment. Bellew can't really claim a major victory, but Haye doesn't come out of it well either. Just seems like 36 year old past his prime, too injury prone so should retire. Did well to milk another £4m PPV out of us lot but please God let that be the end of it.

handsofstone wrote:I think some posters are doing the fight a disservice, sure the build up was flannel, sure the injury had a major impact but lets look at the facts, Haye got badly injured then just went hell for leather like a madman trying to end it there and then because I'm sure at the moment the Achilles went he knew it was now or never and feck did he go for it, he could've thought "i'll make it to end of the round but sh1t no way can I continue, everyone can see its genuine" but he went for it and right there the fight really started, at first he was wild and desperate then he settled down and you seen him try to work for his openings, he was still looking to win, we've seen fighters hurt in the past and do very well to make it to the end but Haye was still totally switched on, so mentally strong and it was Bellew who started to look desperate and tired as Haye timed his attacks<David's body just let him down

And Bellew could've coasted the last few rounds and picked Haye off but he pressed the stoppage even though tactically he shouldn't have so both guys cant be faulted IMO and considering more than half of the fight one man was one legged, I thought it was class and way better than I would've imagined

handsofstone wrote:I think some posters are doing the fight a disservice, sure the build up was flannel, sure the injury had a major impact but lets look at the facts, Haye got badly injured then just went hell for leather like a madman trying to end it there and then because I'm sure at the moment the Achilles went he knew it was now or never and feck did he go for it, he could've thought "i'll make it to end of the round but sh1t no way can I continue, everyone can see its genuine" but he went for it and right there the fight really started, at first he was wild and desperate then he settled down and you seen him try to work for his openings, he was still looking to win, we've seen fighters hurt in the past and do very well to make it to the end but Haye was still totally switched on, so mentally strong and it was Bellew who started to look desperate and tired as Haye timed his attacks<David's body just let him down

And Bellew could've coasted the last few rounds and picked Haye off but he pressed the stoppage even though tactically he shouldn't have so both guys cant be faulted IMO and considering more than half of the fight one man was one legged, I thought it was class and way better than I would've imagined

Hinchy70 wrote: I genuinely don't mind Bellew, tonight's events were a sad affair for all involved

Hinchy70 wrote: What's effing next Bruno verse Ovid Mckenzie.

TheCobra wrote:

handsofstone wrote:I think some posters are doing the fight a disservice, sure the build up was flannel, sure the injury had a major impact but lets look at the facts, Haye got badly injured then just went hell for leather like a madman trying to end it there and then because I'm sure at the moment the Achilles went he knew it was now or never and feck did he go for it, he could've thought "i'll make it to end of the round but sh1t no way can I continue, everyone can see its genuine" but he went for it and right there the fight really started, at first he was wild and desperate then he settled down and you seen him try to work for his openings, he was still looking to win, we've seen fighters hurt in the past and do very well to make it to the end but Haye was still totally switched on, so mentally strong and it was Bellew who started to look desperate and tired as Haye timed his attacks<David's body just let him down

And Bellew could've coasted the last few rounds and picked Haye off but he pressed the stoppage even though tactically he shouldn't have so both guys cant be faulted IMO and considering more than half of the fight one man was one legged, I thought it was class and way better than I would've imagined

I think you're definitely looking at this in rose tinted glasses mode. Haye was fucked from the injury, absolutely fucked. You could see the moment it happened the fight was over. Everything after that was pure desperation from Haye and inability from Bellew to put the poor man out of his misery.

TheCobra wrote:

Hinchy70 wrote: I genuinely don't mind Bellew, tonight's events were a sad affair for all involved

Agree mate, it's sad to see a guy liek haye with a decent career behind him (pre Klitschko) go out like this. He probably deserved better overall, but should have stayed retired. When the body tells you it's over, it's over.

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Quix wrote:Totally agree with the OP....

The injury could have been there from the start, but the whole fight was dictated by that injury and nothing else. Haye's timing was out through inactivity and was wild with his punches, but Bellew just sat back trying to avoid shots and make the odd counter. Haye was starting to cut the space a bit when his leg went completely in the 6th round, leaving him without any weaponry and virtually a sitting duck.

Yet it was presented as if Bellew beat Haye fair and square and knocked him out, which was laughable lol. Haye couldn't punch after the 6th and literally couldn't move and became a virtual punch bag. Yet all Bellew managed to do was punch himself out. Then it got all extremely weird at the end with Haye saying " the better man won " and i'm thinking " what are you on about david ". Then Bellew doesn't mention the injury either and claims victory as if it was all down to him lol.

Its the strangest set of interviews i think ive seen in boxing, where no acknowledgement was given as to the reason for the result. Haye's leg, knee, ankle etc completely gave way, rendering him totally useless and Bellew won because of it. Then you had Joshua acclaimed as the saviour of boxing, when he's had 18 fights and fought nobody of any note and Katie Taylor as the main undercard after having two pro fights and fighting an inferior fighter. It was all so cringy.

If that's the best they can offer up, then god help them lol, but at least don't try and insult the watching public's intelligence and try say it as it is, with some sense, logic, reason and truth. That was almost akin to the story about the emporers new clothes. It was bizzare to listen to. I think they should have got Carl Froch to do the latter interviews, not Joshua and Nelson, because they just didn't seem capable of calling it as it was. Farcical really lol.

I'm glad some people see it for what it was. I'm actually embarrassed by it all. It all seems very 1990's Germany for me. Sven Ottke beating a handpicked numpty with the pundits towing the line. Pathetic. Lost a lot of respect for a lot people tonight, Haye included.

Hinchy70 wrote:

TheCobra wrote:

Hinchy70 wrote: It's fairly well known or suggested that Haye is broke, shows what little support there is for fighters post fighting.

Ricky_ wrote:I had Haye 5-0 up before his leg crumbled.

Wasn't scoring after that but i'm thinking there could be a case for a round or 2 for 1 for the cripple. Bellew wasn't doing much, didn't have enough power to hurt Haye, his best shots only buzzed him for a second. Because Bellew didn't have a finish in him he was weary of walking into a wild hail mary Haye kept trying.

I agree with the poster above... Haye could easily 12-0 Bellew in a rematch just by jabbing him, Bellew really offers no threat to Haye and shouldn't be sharing a ring with a good heavyweight.

I think a bit of credit to Haye too. I heard rumurs on Tuesday he was going to pull out with injury. He's plighted by injuries and made to look a joke with his pullouts over the years. I think tonight he thought he could beat Bellew easy even with an underlying injury and took a gamble he wouldn't have took with a legit opponent like Fury. He was damned cause he did and would've been damned if he didn't.

Horse wrote:All of the pathetic worms who slagged off Bellew like he was a piece of garbage and said he had no chance against Haye, are still slagging him off now.

Show some respect and give him some credit.

asdfjkl wrote:I was cheering for Bellow from start till end and TBH I had the feeling Bellow won the first 3 rounds. Appearantly many people seem to disagree with this, which surprises me.