David Haye vs. Chris Byrd

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I know you can't type that kind of crap with a straight face.

[BoxBuzz]

Yep that assessment of Byrd's skillset is one of the oddest pieces of work that's come down the pike here recently.

[Kalan]

BuzzBox... When you see a prime Byrd getting ripped with punches by faster fisted KO artists such as Wlad and Ike -- how can you credit him with being a master boxer??? ... Byrd even admitted Ike and Wladimir were too much for him....you'd never hear that admission out of David Haye.

Chris was a good slick, clever boxer...I will give him due credit.. But the 2 best Heavyweights in the world took one look at Byrd -- and saw LUNCH!!!

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Sad this needs to be pointed out to you. Wlad was significantly bigger than haye.

[Kalan]

And didn't give Haye a significant beating like he did to Byrd... Sad that needs to be pointed out.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

And didn't give Haye a significant beating like he did to Byrd... Sad that needs to be pointed out.

You have an uncanny ability to shit all over your own points. Wlad is a very passive man, haye can punch and Byrd can't. Sad that needs to be pointed out to you, but you probably can't get your dick out of your pants.

[BoxBuzz]

A simple boxing difference of opinion.....it's not politics or religion.....oops wait this a boxing forum.....so I guess it's both in this context.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

A simple boxing difference of opinion.....it's not politics or religion.....oops wait this a boxing forum.....so I guess it's both in this context.

The mediator between his own trolling and the voice of reason. You suck.

[BoxBuzz]

A simple boxing difference of opinion.....it's not politics or religion.....oops wait this a boxing forum.....so I guess it's both in this context.

The mediator between his own trolling and the voice of reason. You suck.

Yeah...you've been yammering about that for about 15 years here... I'm not your cup-o-tea Saad we get it....be happy to post it on a sticky if your concerned people might be inclined to forget.

Though you may be very repetitive on that subject....you do balance it out nicely with your delusional imaginings. So in between considering your opinions on boxing, I never cease to be entertained by your grizzled and caustic quips.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

You're a troll. That's what's repetitive, leave me the fornicate alone and you'd never hear a peep. Youre a cup of hemlock. fornicate you and your entire family.

[Kalan]

And didn't give Haye a significant beating like he did to Byrd... Sad that needs to be pointed out.

You have an uncanny ability to poo all over your own points. Wlad is a very passive man, haye can punch and Byrd can't. Sad that needs to be pointed out to you, but you probably can't get your dick out of your pants.

I don't pull it out at inappropriate times.. That's why you were arrested the last 3 times.. It's out in a flash when I step up to the loo -- fast hands you see.

Wladimir has a very high KO ratio for somebody extremely passive.. One of his victims is Byrd.. And if Byrd had more brains he be a double KO victim of K. His face was a wreck after their 1st fight. Wlad couldn't make a pizza face out of Haye---who was a much better defender prime for prime than Byrd.. And I'm very aware prime Haye was a savage puncher and Byrd couldn't hit -- one of the many reasons Haye would win this.

[Bodyshot3]

I went for Haye by KO but can see Byrd winning it points as well...at a stretch.

Haye remained plenty fast enough at heavy to catch Chris rather than lumber after him and he hit hard as well....but with Haye there was always the patience/pacing and stamina factor and Byrd was cute enough to ask some questions on that front.

[BoxBuzz]

You're a troll. That's what's repetitive, leave me the eff alone and you'd never hear a peep. Youre a cup of hemlock. eff you and your entire family.

I and my family are at peace thanks. You don't know me, but you are quite imaginitive, and seem to revel in your self created reality. Creepy yes, rule breaking? Not so much. Just behave and you remain welcome here, despite your inherent revulsive nature.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

You're a troll. That's what's repetitive, leave me the eff alone and you'd never hear a peep. Youre a cup of hemlock. eff you and your entire family.

I and my family are at peace thanks. You don't know me, but you are quite imaginitive, and seem to revel in your self created reality. Creepy yes, rule breaking? Not so much. Just behave and you remain welcome here, despite your inherent revulsive nature.

Fuckoff

[jamamb]

haye for me

[Kalan]

You're a troll. That's what's repetitive, leave me the eff alone and you'd never hear a peep. Youre a cup of hemlock. eff you and your entire family.

I and my family are at peace thanks. You don't know me, but you are quite imaginitive, and seem to revel in your self created reality. Creepy yes, rule breaking? Not so much. Just behave and you remain welcome here, despite your inherent revulsive nature.

Fuckoff

Saadoff has mastered short and crisp responses.

[BoxBuzz]

Indeed.

[Kalan]

Are you trying to be my shadow??? ... What is this???

[SaadOffTheDeck]

[Ruthless-RKO]

Haye's hands were as fast, if not faster than anyone Byrd fought at Heavyweight, and we all know that his power was better than average.

Would you say Haye is/was the better boxer?

[Syntax Error]

Haye didn't load up against anybody who was difficult to hit...

Haye nailed Wladimir Klitschko with some terrific, deceptive, and very smooth right handers -- and won rounds off of Wladimir, even with that broken toe he used as an excuse for losing... Haye came out of that fight against a much better boxer than Byrd -- with minor bruising and none the worse for wear.. That's after Wladimir promised to make him into a "pizza face" like he did Byrd.. Haye's and Wladimir's faces looked similar in damage.

Byrd never bothered Wlad with a single blow and was badly battered with a continual onslaught of jabs, hooks, and right crosses... In the face of a superior boxer the caliber of Wladimir Klitschko or David Haye -- there wouldn't be whole lot Byrd could do to escape. He just didn't have any power.

Are you getting your bouts mixed up?

Your analysis of Wladimir v Haye sounds like you're talking about another fight entirely.

[Syntax Error]

Haye didn't load up against anybody who was difficult to hit...

Haye nailed Wladimir Klitschko with some terrific, deceptive, and very smooth right handers -- and won rounds off of Wladimir, even with that broken toe he used as an excuse for losing... Haye came out of that fight against a much better boxer than Byrd -- with minor bruising and none the worse for wear.. That's after Wladimir promised to make him into a "pizza face" like he did Byrd.. Haye's and Wladimir's faces looked similar in damage.

Byrd never bothered Wlad with a single blow and was badly battered with a continual onslaught of jabs, hooks, and right crosses... In the face of a superior boxer the caliber of Wladimir Klitschko or David Haye -- there wouldn't be whole lot Byrd could do to escape. He just didn't have any power.

Are you getting your bouts mixed up?

Your analysis of Wladimir v Haye sounds like you're talking about another fight entirely.

I think he is Syntax. I tried to watch it once, but fell asleep due to boredom after 5 rounds. DH didn't want to fight, and Vlad couldn't do anything about it. A borefest for sure.

On the money.

I just don't recognise his description of Wlad V Haye: it just did not happen that way at all.

[Bard of Boxrec]

Re Wlad/Haye, they both sucked, Haye sucked worse.

Haye clearly lost, but he did in fact land two hard, clean right hands. One in the third, and one in the 12th. He hardly landed anything else.

Re Haye/Byrd, it's a style matchup that wouldn't make for an interesting spectacle. Byrd spent large portions of fights in reverse, flapping at opponents with open gloves, and frustrating them. Haye spent large portions waiting, feinting and looking for that opening for his ambush attacks.

It would be close and scrappy. Haye always managed to land big shots on guys close to his size, and he would have eventually found Byrd. However Byrd was tough and would probably have been able to withstand enough of Haye's power to see the final bell.

It's a tossup, but I lean towards the activity of Byrd winning the day, after withstanding some torrid moments.

[Bard of Boxrec]

Byrd was tough and would probably have been able to withstand enough of Haye's power to see the final bell.

For sure Haye KO'd bigger stronger guys than Byrd, with equal or better chins.

Like who? He had pop at heavyweight, but he was hardly a killer there. He stopped a shop worn Ruiz, after a prolonged beating, and Chisora, big deal. Byrd wouldn't get hit as much as those guys did.

[Ned Merrill]

Got to wonder if the body work Byrd used against Tue would have folded Haye. But seriously boxing fans, fret not, this fight, had all of the elements aligned for a classic showdown, would NEVER happen. David Haye was a bullshitter, plain and simple. He liked flawed and past-their-best fighters, not fluid, confident, stylists who excelled at competition. The desire Byrd had to climb mountains, Haye NEVER HAD.

Period.