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Re: Parker vs Cojanu WBO world titlethis
Posted: 27 Apr 2017, 08:33
by asdfjkl
hagler81 wrote:asdfjkl wrote:BillW wrote:David Haye ducks Parker,
Hughey Fury bottles it against Parker.
Brazeale when presented with the contract he called for chickens out and wants to fight in September.
Cojanu only one with the cojones turns up in NZ for the fight.
And then guess what?
As soon as the fight is made Wilder finds some dutch courage and says he'll fight May 6th.
Cojanu proves he's got more guts than all any of the above.
I knew it, Wilder allways does such things, saying he wants to fight as soon as he knows the fight can't happen.
He didn't impress me greatly Parker. He's tough but i'd back a fair few to derail him

Wilder/Parker would be a close match, Wilder got the better body, Parker is a bit more intelligent.
Re: Parker vs Cojanu WBO world titlethis
Posted: 27 Apr 2017, 08:49
by candyslim
Mexi-Box wrote:If you're at the point where Breazeale is considered a good option, then there really is no point in trying.

You think Parker walks through Breazeale?
Breazeale is very limited but he's big, tough, strong and can hit. I'd pick Parker by decision but I don't think it'd be easy based on the hard work Parker made of Takam and Ruiz. It give it maybe 60/40 in favour of JP who I can't see doing a job on him like AJ did.
Re: Parker vs Cojanu WBO world titlethis
Posted: 27 Apr 2017, 12:28
by Mexi-Box
candyslim wrote:Mexi-Box wrote:If you're at the point where Breazeale is considered a good option, then there really is no point in trying.

You think Parker walks through Breazeale?
Breazeale is very limited but he's big, tough, strong and can hit. I'd pick Parker by decision but I don't think it'd be easy based on the hard work Parker made of Takam and Ruiz. It give it maybe 60/40 in favour of JP who I can't see doing a job on him like AJ did.
Ruiz and Takam are a lot better than Breazeale. Breazeale is a C- fighter. He was getting boxed circles by Kassi and Mansour.
Re: Parker vs Cojanu WBO world titlethis
Posted: 27 Apr 2017, 14:25
by sweetviolenturge
Mexi-Box wrote:candyslim wrote:Mexi-Box wrote:If you're at the point where Breazeale is considered a good option, then there really is no point in trying.

You think Parker walks through Breazeale?
Breazeale is very limited but he's big, tough, strong and can hit. I'd pick Parker by decision but I don't think it'd be easy based on the hard work Parker made of Takam and Ruiz. It give it maybe 60/40 in favour of JP who I can't see doing a job on him like AJ did.
Ruiz and Takam are a lot better than Breazeale. Breazeale is a C- fighter. He was getting boxed circles by Kassi and Mansour.
I'd back Breazeale over Takam & Ruiz. The latter by KO.
The problem with him is that he's a slow starter & it nearly cost him the decision in the Kassi fight & allowed him to be outworked & dropped in the Mansour during the first three rounds. But, once he gets his motor going he's a big rough, tough guy. And his uppercuts are deadly, which is why I'd pick him to stop Ruiz. As Joseph was able to catch Ruiz with them repeatedly, but he just didn't throw it enough & his isn't as strong a punch as Breazeale's is.
Re: Parker vs Cojanu WBO world titlethis
Posted: 27 Apr 2017, 14:37
by candyslim
I can't see Kassi giving Ugonoh much bother, Mansour might. Either way I think even taking the fight with Ugonoh took balls, never mind climbing off the floor to stop him. People will inevitably regard Ugonoh as nothing much now, but before Breazeale he was considered one of the prospects most likely to break through next.
Joshua exposed Breazeale's limitations as a boxer but not as a fighter. AJ is awesome at sub-elite level and Breazeale did really well to hang in there as long as he did. His lack of foot and hand-speed probably drops his ability as a boxer to your grade C, but his other attributes put him back up to lower top ten / upper top twenty status in my opinion. I don't see anyone doing a Joshua on him, and I could see him giving Parker or Wilder a very uncomfortable night even if I wouldn't expect him to beat either of them.
I see him as having a very good chance of beating Stiverne, Hammer, Whyte, Wach,Takam, Duhaupas, maybe even Pulev who hasn't impressed me recently.
Re: Parker vs Cojanu WBO world titlethis
Posted: 27 Apr 2017, 14:41
by crusader
candyslim wrote:I can't see Kassi giving Ugonoh much bother, Mansour might. Either way I think even taking the fight with Ugonoh took balls, never mind climbing off the floor to stop him. People will inevitably regard Ugonoh as nothing much now, but before Breazeale he was considered one of the prospects most likely to break through next.
Joshua exposed Breazeale's limitations as a boxer but not as a fighter. AJ is awesome at sub-elite level and Breazeale did really well to hang in there as long as he did. His lack of foot and hand-speed probably drops his ability as a boxer to your grade C, but his other attributes put him back up to lower top ten / upper top twenty status in my opinion. I don't see anyone doing a Joshua on him, and I could see him giving Parker or Wilder a very uncomfortable night even if I wouldn't expect him to beat either of them.
I see him as having a very good chance of beating Stiverne, Hammer, Whyte, Wach,Takam, Duhaupas, maybe even Pulev who hasn't impressed me recently.
Ugonoh and Mansour are hardly top shelf, so I'm not too confident that Breazeale won't get beaten up and stopped again if he fights at the elite level.
I agree that he'd have a good chance of beating people like Stiverne, Hammer, Wach, and Duhaupas.
Re: Parker vs Cojanu WBO world titlethis
Posted: 28 Apr 2017, 07:10
by Mexi-Box
sweetviolenturge wrote:Mexi-Box wrote:candyslim wrote:
You think Parker walks through Breazeale?
Breazeale is very limited but he's big, tough, strong and can hit. I'd pick Parker by decision but I don't think it'd be easy based on the hard work Parker made of Takam and Ruiz. It give it maybe 60/40 in favour of JP who I can't see doing a job on him like AJ did.
Ruiz and Takam are a lot better than Breazeale. Breazeale is a C- fighter. He was getting boxed circles by Kassi and Mansour.
I'd back Breazeale over Takam & Ruiz. The latter by KO.
The problem with him is that he's a slow starter & it nearly cost him the decision in the Kassi fight & allowed him to be outworked & dropped in the Mansour during the first three rounds. But, once he gets his motor going he's a big rough, tough guy. And his uppercuts are deadly, which is why I'd pick him to stop Ruiz. As Joseph was able to catch Ruiz with them repeatedly, but he just didn't throw it enough & his isn't as strong a punch as Breazeale's is.
Hope you're not planning on putting money down on that. You'd lose your house.
Takam would stop Breazeale and Ruiz would wide-decision him. Tiny Ugonoh was hurting Breazeale. Takam is more vicious and would stop him with his strong body-shots. Ruiz's handspeed and skill would have him boxing circles around Breazeale like lesser Kassi was doing.
When has anyone hurt Ruiz? Ruiz already showed that he's elite by giving Parker the fight of his life.
Re: Parker vs Cojanu WBO world titlethis
Posted: 28 Apr 2017, 21:35
by ldlamb
That last sentence assumes Parker is elite.....hardly a certainty.