Aj vs atg

[punchoutsb]

Vs Wlad: Hard to say. Maybe younger Wlad was better than the guy in the ring last night, but how much better? Would he have tried harder to pull the trigger on a hurt Joshua from round 6-8? If Steward was in the corner maybe but no guarantees there at all (we are talking about Wlad here). On the other hand does prime Wlad fight his way out of trouble the way the older version did in round 5? There is every chance he doesn't IMO. 50/50. [pick: Joshua KO6]

Good post aside from this bollocks. We've already steen that AJ vs 41 year old, 18 month inactive, hasn't looked good in 3 years Klitschko was essentially a 50/50 fight. Prime Klitschko stops Joshua within 8 rounds.

[amwsnw]

So now AJ is as good as Lewis?? Holyfield would destroy him with combinations. And where wlad let an off the hook when he had him hurt, Holyfield would not.

[Jip]

Vs Wlad: Hard to say. Maybe younger Wlad was better than the guy in the ring last night, but how much better? Would he have tried harder to pull the trigger on a hurt Joshua from round 6-8? If Steward was in the corner maybe but no guarantees there at all (we are talking about Wlad here). On the other hand does prime Wlad fight his way out of trouble the way the older version did in round 5? There is every chance he doesn't IMO. 50/50. [pick: Joshua KO6]

Good post aside from this bollocks. We've already steen that AJ vs 41 year old, 18 month inactive, hasn't looked good in 3 years Klitschko was essentially a 50/50 fight. Prime Klitschko stops Joshua within 8 rounds.

Who says younger prime wlad doesnt panic when gets hit hard and ends uo being demolished? Saunders! Aj hits harder than saunders and he would beat wlad more than he would lose, would say fight multiple times.

The version we saw of wlad was in very good shape, close looking prime. This version or the prime version no huge difference and wlad was never a great finisher. He just was lucky that most of his opponennts were b level small guys or limited tall guys like wach hrhr...now wlad tasted 2 times what it means to be in the ring with a very good heavyweight his own size.

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So now AJ is as good as Lewis?? Holyfield would destroy him with combinations. And where wlad let an off the hook when he had him hurt, Holyfield would not.

So holyfield had such a tough time landing on a athletic 6'4 guy, but will land combos on a even more athletic 6'6 guy with even more power than lewis hahaha.....holyfield would get ridicouled

[Ossyrules]

The OP is pointless

Fighters should be judged in there own era, as every era passes things change. There is no point to this discussion imo

[greg]

The OP is pointless

Fighters should be judged in there own era, as every era passes things change. There is no point to this discussion imo

..either this or look at the AJ resume at the age of 41 and compare

[Horse]

The OP is pointless

Fighters should be judged in there own era, as every era passes things change. There is no point to this discussion imo

If you don't like this type of discussion then do not participate.

[Ossyrules]

The OP is pointless

Fighters should be judged in there own era, as every era passes things change. There is no point to this discussion imo

If you don't like this type of discussion then do not participate.

Can post where I like geezer. My input is that no way Joshua can be judged against Frazier, Ali etc. At a stretch Lennox Lewis era but heavyweights is unique and things change too much for a fair comparison in a head to head match up

[Horse]

Can post where I like geezer. My input is that no way Joshua can be judged against Frazier, Ali etc. At a stretch Lennox Lewis era but heavyweights is unique and things change too much for a fair comparison in a head to head match up

Your input is worthless.

[Ossyrules]

Can post where I like geezer. My input is that no way Joshua can be judged against Frazier, Ali etc. At a stretch Lennox Lewis era but heavyweights is unique and things change too much for a fair comparison in a head to head match up

Your input is worthless.

You can take it home with you then geezer, suits you

[Jip]

The OP is pointless

Fighters should be judged in there own era, as every era passes things change. There is no point to this discussion imo

Nonsense. Nothing changes. 1 ring 2 boxers 1 ref. Everything stays the same except humans in general in all sports also boxers become more athletic and better over time.

[Ossyrules]

The OP is pointless

Fighters should be judged in there own era, as every era passes things change. There is no point to this discussion imo

Nonsense. Nothing changes. 1 ring 2 boxers 1 ref. Everything stays the same except humans in general in all sports also boxers become more athletic and better over time.

You've just contradicted yourself there

[gilgamesh]

I don't understand why people start these "How would he do against the best that ever did it" conversations so damn early. Too early for this sh*t.

[punchoutsb]

Vs Wlad: Hard to say. Maybe younger Wlad was better than the guy in the ring last night, but how much better? Would he have tried harder to pull the trigger on a hurt Joshua from round 6-8? If Steward was in the corner maybe but no guarantees there at all (we are talking about Wlad here). On the other hand does prime Wlad fight his way out of trouble the way the older version did in round 5? There is every chance he doesn't IMO. 50/50. [pick: Joshua KO6]

Good post aside from this bollocks. We've already steen that AJ vs 41 year old, 18 month inactive, hasn't looked good in 3 years Klitschko was essentially a 50/50 fight. Prime Klitschko stops Joshua within 8 rounds.

Who says younger prime wlad doesnt panic when gets hit hard and ends uo being demolished? Saunders! Aj hits harder than saunders and he would beat wlad more than he would lose, would say fight multiple times.

The version we saw of wlad was in very good shape, close looking prime. This version or the prime version no huge difference and wlad was never a great finisher. He just was lucky that most of his opponennts were b level small guys or limited tall guys like wach hrhr...now wlad tasted 2 times what it means to be in the ring with a very good heavyweight his own size.

Why would I listen to a non-expert like you? Your post is garbage as usual. Wlad isn't a great finisher

Prime Wlad beats current AJ, any true "boxing expert" could see that

[Jip]

The OP is pointless

Fighters should be judged in there own era, as every era passes things change. There is no point to this discussion imo

Nonsense. Nothing changes. 1 ring 2 boxers 1 ref. Everything stays the same except humans in general in all sports also boxers become more athletic and better over time.

You've just contradicted yourself there

No. U just didnt understood. On a boxing standpoint. The ring the rules etc not much changed. On a boxers stand point a lot changed. They became better. You said you couldnt compare boxers of different generations because so much changed. So what did change except the boxers becoming better over time? And why cant you compare them? Its always the same thing. Who has the better combination of power speed footwork chin stamina and technique. Than you compare the atg on those points and whoever is better is better. That simple. Prime frazier slower less powerful and less big than prime tyson therefore prime tyson better. Prime ali faster with better footwork than prime jack johnson thats why prime ali better over johnson. See. Very easy. Always happy to help a non expert out.

[Ossyrules]

Nonsense. Nothing changes. 1 ring 2 boxers 1 ref. Everything stays the same except humans in general in all sports also boxers become more athletic and better over time.

You've just contradicted yourself there

No. U just didnt understood. On a boxing standpoint. The ring the rules etc not much changed. On a boxers stand point a lot changed. They became better. You said you couldnt compare boxers of different generations because so much changed. So what did change except the boxers becoming better over time? And why cant you compare them? Its always the same thing. Who has the better combination of power speed footwork chin stamina and technique. Than you compare the atg on those points and whoever is better is better. That simple. Prime frazier slower less powerful and less big than prime tyson therefore prime tyson better. Prime ali faster with better footwork than prime jack johnson thats why prime ali better over johnson. See. Very easy. Always happy to help a non expert out.

There no changes except the one change

Heavies are unique not having to make weight, so this point is isolated to them, but they're bigger than ever, which is why you should go time for time to have an appreciation of how good they were in there era, to judge greatness fairly.

It's like trying to compare gerrard vs bobby charlton

[Jip]

You've just contradicted yourself there

No. U just didnt understood. On a boxing standpoint. The ring the rules etc not much changed. On a boxers stand point a lot changed. They became better. You said you couldnt compare boxers of different generations because so much changed. So what did change except the boxers becoming better over time? And why cant you compare them? Its always the same thing. Who has the better combination of power speed footwork chin stamina and technique. Than you compare the atg on those points and whoever is better is better. That simple. Prime frazier slower less powerful and less big than prime tyson therefore prime tyson better. Prime ali faster with better footwork than prime jack johnson thats why prime ali better over johnson. See. Very easy. Always happy to help a non expert out.

There no changes except the one change

Heavies are unique not having to make weight, so this point is isolated to them, but they're bigger than ever, which is why you should go time for time to have an appreciation of how good they were in there era, to judge greatness fairly.

It's like trying to compare gerrard vs bobby charlton

No. If a boxer is better than the other than he is better. If his advantage is he is bigger and stronger than these the reasons why he is better

Jack johnson was elite for his time. Now he would be a okay. Boxing became better over time. So did every sport. Carl lewis a joke compared to bolt..etc

[Jip]

Bolt faster than owens

Phelps faster than spitz

Djokovic better than borg

Messi better than maradona

So every athletes in different sports over years became better but boxing didnt. Non experts making no sense as usual. Now this fool is gonne tell me i cant compare bolt and owens. Bolt has a faster time. End if disscusion.

[Ossyrules]

No. U just didnt understood. On a boxing standpoint. The ring the rules etc not much changed. On a boxers stand point a lot changed. They became better. You said you couldnt compare boxers of different generations because so much changed. So what did change except the boxers becoming better over time? And why cant you compare them? Its always the same thing. Who has the better combination of power speed footwork chin stamina and technique. Than you compare the atg on those points and whoever is better is better. That simple. Prime frazier slower less powerful and less big than prime tyson therefore prime tyson better. Prime ali faster with better footwork than prime jack johnson thats why prime ali better over johnson. See. Very easy. Always happy to help a non expert out.

There no changes except the one change

Heavies are unique not having to make weight, so this point is isolated to them, but they're bigger than ever, which is why you should go time for time to have an appreciation of how good they were in there era, to judge greatness fairly.

It's like trying to compare gerrard vs bobby charlton

No. If a boxer is better than the other than he is better. If his advantage is he is bigger and stronger than these the reasons why he is better

Jack johnson was elite for his time. Now he would be a okay. Boxing became better over time. So did every sport. Carl lewis a joke compared to bolt..etc

Think you're missing the point

[Jip]

There no changes except the one change

Heavies are unique not having to make weight, so this point is isolated to them, but they're bigger than ever, which is why you should go time for time to have an appreciation of how good they were in there era, to judge greatness fairly.

It's like trying to compare gerrard vs bobby charlton

No. If a boxer is better than the other than he is better. If his advantage is he is bigger and stronger than these the reasons why he is better

Jack johnson was elite for his time. Now he would be a okay. Boxing became better over time. So did every sport. Carl lewis a joke compared to bolt..etc

Think you're missing the point

Than tell me what the point is i am curious now?

[Badhusker]

Vs frazier: small, light. Foremon-frazier all over

Vs foremon: slow, stationary, average technique, aj wrecks him

Vs holyfield: small, not enough power to impress aj. Similar to lewis-holyfield

Vs tyson: now that is interresting. Tyson was small, but prime tyson was much more athletic than liston or frazier, had blonding speed, equal maybe a bit less power than aj but tone of aggression and the mindeset to come close to his opponents to do damage, tall boxers hate quick small powerful punchers who do inside damage. Tough one.

Vs ali: struggled and lost in my opp against norton. Aj is taller. Bigger and stronger than norton, ali outshines aj techniquly, but the difference in height and power are just to much for ali

Vs lewis: knocks weak chin lewis out

Vs vitaly: very close fight. Both tremendous power chin height

Vs wlad: we saw what happened and when aj gets a vit more older and seasoned he ll be even better

Prime vitaly and prime tyson would pose the biggest problem of all atg against current anthony joshua

If it was anyone but a 41 yr old Wlad, Joshua would have been finished in the 6th round. Just another hype job that didn't turn out.

Your trolling is getting irritating. By the way, if you think AJ punches a lot harder than a prime Foreman, you are not only a troll, you are a stupid one.

[Jip]

We ll see