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boxing_rocks wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:I agree. I was wrong. You being a fool is not a possibility, but certainty.

Keep attempting to worm your way out of your months long ridiculous position on the PEDvetkin issue. Run like a b!tch, box-of-rocks.

I don't have a position on the issue and am finding categorical positions from both sides naive to not say stupid. Yes, Povetkin is most likely using PEDs like almost all top athletes, but him being so unprofessional in that area TWICE definitely looks suspicious.

boxing_rocks wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:I agree. I was wrong. You being a fool is not a possibility, but certainty.

Keep attempting to worm your way out of your months long ridiculous position on the PEDvetkin issue. Run like a b!tch, box-of-rocks.

I don't have a position on the issue . . .

Tanzio wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

Tanzio wrote: Keep attempting to worm your way out of your months long ridiculous position on the PEDvetkin issue. Run like a b!tch, box-of-rocks.

I don't have a position on the issue . . .

Did you misplace it somewhere?

candyslim wrote:Is that it? @ Saad

bigman1968 wrote:

candyslim wrote:I think it is very much in the WBC's interest to keep their heavyweight title in America. It has to be well worth spending money to make sure that happens and a few tens of thousands extra to create the illusion of everything having been done properly, not just for the sake of placating a few nerds on in the internet, but in order to uphold the reputation ... cough ... cough ... and integrity ... choke ... of the organiztion. No problem with Wilder doing his bit flying to London for a short break. He doesn't want to risk his title against a formidable opponent on his home turf, even if he thinks he does. He'll do as he's told anyway, he knows who butters his bread.

I'm intrigued Saad, why you would say "Povetkin is worth much more to them than Wilder is" ? How does that work, exactly?

You agree the World Boxing Council are not above using their powers to get what they want. You agreed that Vada/Wada are in no position to defy any instruction from the WBC whether it contravenes their code of practice or not. Is it really such a leap to envisage a scenario in which the WBC have exerted pressure on the drug agency to make certain their boy Wilder stays their boy?

They may decide to throw him to the wolves when he can replaced by someone who abides in a WBC-friendly environment such as USA/UK, who doesn't require quite as much protection from threats within the division, and best of all, who will contribute far greater revenue to WBC coffers. Oh look here comes that nice Mr Joshua.

One thing I do agree with Saad about and that's Poviktim's mysterious and substantial physical improvement during the course of his career. It's hard to avoid the conclusion that the explanation is more than simply hard work and healthy living .

So why they maid Povetkin #1 in their rating??? they could just not do it
Why to go to complicated affairs and conspiracies...just ignore him, like all other ABC's.
But WBC, practically, forced Wilder to go to Russia for hard fight...without online translation in US (no publicity or promotion for his future fights).

asdfjkl wrote:Ryabinski was actually intelligent enough to let the sample test again in a real lab in Swiss and it turned out Povetkin was 100% clean. The labs in America often screw up, not sure if on purpose, there's enough solid evidence against Mayweather as well, but they just let him carry on. Despite all the dangers, risking all the lives of innocent victims, just for a few dimes in their pockets.

MachoTime wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Ryabinski was actually intelligent enough to let the sample test again in a real lab in Swiss and it turned out Povetkin was 100% clean. The labs in America often screw up, not sure if on purpose, there's enough solid evidence against Mayweather as well, but they just let him carry on. Despite all the dangers, risking all the lives of innocent victims, just for a few dimes in their pockets.

Sperm Test ?.

Ruthless-RKO wrote:Promoter World of Boxing has revealed to BS.com that a deal was finalized for Olympic gold medal winner Alexander Povetkin (30-1, 22 KOs) to face Andriy Rudenko (31-2, 19 KOs, #9 WBO, #13 IBF, #13 WBC) on July 1st in Moscow. The fight will be a battle of Russia vs. Ukraine.

Rudenko has won seven fights in a row since suffering a two fight losing streak where he dropped decisions to Lucas Browne and Hughie Fury. The last time he saw action was in December 2016, when he won a ten round unanimous decision to Jason Bergman in Ukraine.

Rudenko is very durable, has a decent punch and has never been stopped, but the majority of his career has been staged in Ukraine and he's lost in the two instances where he stepped up his level of competition.

boxing_rocks wrote:What was tested in Switzerland, was a different sample taken later.

tiny_acres wrote:

MachoTime wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Ryabinski was actually intelligent enough to let the sample test again in a real lab in Swiss and it turned out Povetkin was 100% clean. The labs in America often screw up, not sure if on purpose, there's enough solid evidence against Mayweather as well, but they just let him carry on. Despite all the dangers, risking all the lives of innocent victims, just for a few dimes in their pockets.

Sperm Test ?.

That would be easy enough to get. Just swab asdfuckedj mouth. He gargles with Povetkins seed

asdfjkl wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:What was tested in Switzerland, was a different sample taken later.

As far as I know it was the same sample, that's why it couldn't be tested earlier.

boxing_rocks wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:What was tested in Switzerland, was a different sample taken later.

As far as I know it was the same sample, that's why it couldn't be tested earlier.

No, you don't know that. Even Ryabinsky didn't say that. It is just convenient for you to think so.

Evander wrote:I don't get the Povetkin thing what am I missing ?
I saw Alexander in Berlin on the Huck v Lebedev undercard boxing Nicolai Firtha, his style is ok but didn't strike me as a broad big threat in boxing even then.
His ability was steady and almost careful but a defensive behind the guard crab like rugged boxing style with a long distance respected jab, didn't have much pop but his accuracy was decent.
Since then he beat a moving up Huck in a good fight at Heavyweight an over the hill Rahman and lost to Wladimir in a stinker.

crusader wrote:

Evander wrote:I don't get the Povetkin thing what am I missing ?
I saw Alexander in Berlin on the Huck v Lebedev undercard boxing Nicolai Firtha, his style is ok but didn't strike me as a broad big threat in boxing even then.
His ability was steady and almost careful but a defensive behind the guard crab like rugged boxing style with a long distance respected jab, didn't have much pop but his accuracy was decent.
Since then he beat a moving up Huck in a good fight at Heavyweight an over the hill Rahman and lost to Wladimir in a stinker.

Do you not follow the division? He's been on a KTFO run since the Wlad fight and was easily top 5. At his best, he was a major threat to pretty much everyone in the division, and there was a lot of excitement for the ill-fated Wilder bout.

We probably wont see him fight anyone too interesting at this point though.