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Tomasino wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Let's see how surgery pans out - it seems likely he may have thin orbital bones, as i've never previously heard of a fighter having one broken in each eye in back to back bouts. Seems odd unless there's a congenital weakness.

I unfortunately haven't seen the fight, as despite paying for the PPV, it only allowed you to watch the replay in the morning, and I was away until yesterday evening.

Did Brook gas badly after 6 - if so, then it seems plausible he's outgrown the weight, but of course he will be facing bigger punchers at 154.

Many different steroids weaken bones. Not accusing him but just a possibility

cutsman wrote:I'm not so sure brooks corner realised he had broken bone at any stage as at the end of the fight after Kell quit, they roughly towelled down his face and Kell recoiled in obvious pain. Not something I think you would do if your realised your fighter had a fracture.

TheLeprechaun wrote:Dom Ingle just comes across very very amateurish. Like he doesn't really have a clue but is pretending he does. I thought brook wasnt really listening in the corner. Especially after Dom telling him that Spence is just throwing arm punches with nothing on them. Meanwhile brooks eye was damaged and he was winded from the body assault.

Tomasino wrote:

cutsman wrote:I'm not so sure brooks corner realised he had broken bone at any stage as at the end of the fight after Kell quit, they roughly towelled down his face and Kell recoiled in obvious pain. Not something I think you would do if your realised your fighter had a fracture.

Someone doing that to me whilst I had an injury would mean I never had eff all to do with them again. I seen it and it looked horribly unprofessional. Brooks corner was a disaster.

Switch hitter wrote:

TheLeprechaun wrote:Dom Ingle just comes across very very amateurish. Like he doesn't really have a clue but is pretending he does. I thought brook wasnt really listening in the corner. Especially after Dom telling him that Spence is just throwing arm punches with nothing on them. Meanwhile brooks eye was damaged and he was winded from the body assault.

So he's to say to Brook he's getting stronger and tell him hes going to get beat ?

TheLeprechaun wrote:

Switch hitter wrote:

TheLeprechaun wrote:Dom Ingle just comes across very very amateurish. Like he doesn't really have a clue but is pretending he does. I thought brook wasnt really listening in the corner. Especially after Dom telling him that Spence is just throwing arm punches with nothing on them. Meanwhile brooks eye was damaged and he was winded from the body assault.

So he's to say to Brook he's getting stronger and tell him hes going to get beat ?

Yeah mate that's exactly what he should say. Superb post.
Keep it up mate.

coneye wrote:No point looking for excuses , when your a fighter at that level , you need to be doing one of two things ,, fighting top opposition regular , or sparring the best regular, theres an old saying , a gyms only has good has its best boxer , ,, so if he is the best bring in bigger and better for sparring . its the way it works in the states , quite often survival of the fittest . Brook was simply pumbelled by a better fighter , he was hit harder than he's used to and the damage got done .

Regards the endswell , that really is a 50-50 one , pushing the bruising hard, would'nt of helped a broken orbital bone , in fact pressing and pushing it would meke it worse , so if they knew it was broken , or suspected it was broken , they done the right thing not putting pressure on it , in which case , why did'nt they just say , you could lose an eye were stopping it ,,

But if they did'nt know or suspect a break , pushing the swelling out could make the difference , either way does'nt matter he got beat by a better boxer on the night .

On a side note though one thing that does annoy me is brave trainers, who think they know everything , theres a doctor in there who is experienced , and done the doctors training , call him over get profesional advice , there not stupid they know you will not want it called off unless its essential ,,, Fook i remember seeing one trsainer years ago , tryibg to put a dislocated shoulder back inbetween rnds , the fookwit ruined the fighters carreer , he never fought again

Switch hitter wrote:

TheLeprechaun wrote:

Switch hitter wrote:
So he's to say to Brook he's getting stronger and tell him hes going to get beat ?

Yeah mate that's exactly what he should say. Superb post.
Keep it up mate.

Yeah likewise .... should write for one of the rags

TheLeprechaun wrote:

Switch hitter wrote:

TheLeprechaun wrote:

Yeah mate that's exactly what he should say. Superb post.
Keep it up mate.

Yeah likewise .... should write for one of the rags

Great stuff mate. Didn't come across that you are close with the ingle gym at all son. Completely coherent posts. 5 stars.

Anzi wrote:

coneye wrote:No point looking for excuses , when your a fighter at that level , you need to be doing one of two things ,, fighting top opposition regular , or sparring the best regular, theres an old saying , a gyms only has good has its best boxer , ,, so if he is the best bring in bigger and better for sparring . its the way it works in the states , quite often survival of the fittest . Brook was simply pumbelled by a better fighter , he was hit harder than he's used to and the damage got done .

Regards the endswell , that really is a 50-50 one , pushing the bruising hard, would'nt of helped a broken orbital bone , in fact pressing and pushing it would meke it worse , so if they knew it was broken , or suspected it was broken , they done the right thing not putting pressure on it , in which case , why did'nt they just say , you could lose an eye were stopping it ,,

But if they did'nt know or suspect a break , pushing the swelling out could make the difference , either way does'nt matter he got beat by a better boxer on the night .

On a side note though one thing that does annoy me is brave trainers, who think they know everything , theres a doctor in there who is experienced , and done the doctors training , call him over get profesional advice , there not stupid they know you will not want it called off unless its essential ,,, Fook i remember seeing one trsainer years ago , tryibg to put a dislocated shoulder back inbetween rnds , the fookwit ruined the fighters carreer , he never fought again

The Ref calls the Doctor, not the trainer.