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Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 01:50
by wesshaw1985
Glass Joe wrote:purses for fight
Nathan Cleverly $100K
Badou Jack $750K
so 75k time he takes tax and trainers fee thats about 60k nice work eddie. really looking after your fighter!
Clev is the "champ" isn't he? I cant believe the difference in the purses...
Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 02:31
by geronimo
TheLeprechaun wrote:Jack is a very very good fighter. Getting starched in one early in his career meant he was always underrated. I was guilty of doing that myself. One of my biggest betting loses was the groves fight.
Cleverly looks slow and predictable. Jack should dominate the fight.
Absolutely not, Clev is not slow.
Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 03:20
by Andrew
wesshaw1985 wrote:Glass Joe wrote:purses for fight
Nathan Cleverly $100K
Badou Jack $750K
so 75k time he takes tax and trainers fee thats about 60k nice work eddie. really looking after your fighter!
Clev is the "champ" isn't he? I cant believe the difference in the purses...
He will get money from elsewhere. The figure shown to NSAC will be lower for tax reasons as well.
Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 03:26
by Andrew
Coco wrote:Jack's first fight at the weight, he wants a title, which champ are you going to choose to fight? Ward, Kovalev, Stevenson, Cleverley..........
Cleverly isn't a world champion.
Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 04:52
by CaptainSpacerod
Bigdogsnose wrote:i don't think its a lack of heart that's does for cleverly - more lack of ambition and self belief to fully impress the best of himself in a fight. He can make a very good living out of boxing just doing enough to stay relevant. he is a world champion, but I don't think you can say he grabbed his opportunity with both hands- kind of got handed too him a little. He'll hang with Jack, but not do enough to beat him.
To me Bellew 2 showed where he is at. The move up to cruiserweight was clearly fabricated to build that fight. He never should have moved up but accepted he needed to as that was the money fight, and that he was probably going to lose to a lesser fighter by doing so. Kovalev knocked the ambition to be the best out of him. But the Bellew, fonfara and braehmer fights showed he does have heart and toughness.
Excellent analysis of Clev
Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 08:24
by wesshaw1985
Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 10:59
by maverick23
Naandrew wrote:wesshaw1985 wrote:Glass Joe wrote:purses for fight
Nathan Cleverly $100K
Badou Jack $750K
so 75k time he takes tax and trainers fee thats about 60k nice work eddie. really looking after your fighter!
Clev is the "champ" isn't he? I cant believe the difference in the purses...
He will get money from elsewhere. The figure shown to NSAC will be lower for tax reasons as well.
Yes - he'll get a slice of the Uk PPV money (albeit a small slice) in addition to what's declared in the US.
Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 12:40
by hitman_hatton1
wesshaw1985 wrote:Clev is the "champ" isn't he? I cant believe the difference in the purses...
first thing i thought when this was announced.
he'll be getting a pasting but least the payday is worth it.
turns out jack is on a small fortune and clev is getting nowhere near.
i thought he was good at maths.
Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 13:33
by black panther
I hope Cleverly is gets paid well off thhe back of the PPV. Even a tiny percentage of the PPV will be some serious change and good for him.
I have a feeling this will be his last fight.
Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 13:45
by bigjack
black panther wrote:I hope Cleverly is gets paid well off thhe back of the PPV. Even a tiny percentage of the PPV will be some serious change and good for him.
I have a feeling this will be his last fight.
Me too,i have a feeling he will get a beating.
Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 16:34
by jameswilson
Bit like when Callum Smith and Luke Campbell had $0 purses declared for the Kell Brook fight.
Round-By-Round - Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 17:30
by wesshaw1985
PPV coverage starts at midnight in the UK.
Ringwalk for Clev is expected around 3am...
Re: Round-By-Round - Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 17:38
by horndawg80
Perfect! Cheers Weeshaw1985 - Just going to ask that question mate.
Then Davis afterwards?
When is Cotto on?
Re: Round-By-Round - Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 17:52
by wesshaw1985
horndawg80 wrote:Perfect! Cheers Weeshaw1985 - Just going to ask that question mate.
Then Davis afterwards?
When is Cotto on?
Clev is co-main due to Davis losing his title apparently.
MayMac is due on between 4am and 4.30am from what I've seen.
Not got a clue regarding Cotto...
Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 18:08
by CaptainSpacerod
Glass Joe wrote:purses for fight
Nathan Cleverly $100K
Badou Jack $750K
so 75k time he takes tax and trainers fee thats about 60k nice work eddie. really looking after your fighter!
Where did you get this info ?
Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 18:10
by gilgamesh
CaptainSpacerod wrote:Glass Joe wrote:purses for fight
Nathan Cleverly $100K
Badou Jack $750K
so 75k time he takes tax and trainers fee thats about 60k nice work eddie. really looking after your fighter!
Where did you get this info ?
Cleverly is getting a cut of the U.K. PPV buys as I understand it. The pay sheet is misleading regarding him.
Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 18:12
by Boxerbeetle
gilgamesh wrote:CaptainSpacerod wrote:Glass Joe wrote:purses for fight
Nathan Cleverly $100K
Badou Jack $750K
so 75k time he takes tax and trainers fee thats about 60k nice work eddie. really looking after your fighter!
Where did you get this info ?
Cleverly is getting a cut of the U.K. PPV buys as I understand it. The pay sheet is misleading regarding him.
Good news for Clev if so. I'm sure his degree in Maths comes in handy when negotiating percentage points
Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 18:51
by CaptainSpacerod
gilgamesh wrote:
Cleverly is getting a cut of the U.K. PPV buys as I understand it. The pay sheet is misleading regarding him.
Good luck to him but I think the number of UK buys might be rather underwhelming
Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 18:52
by gilgamesh
CaptainSpacerod wrote:gilgamesh wrote:
Cleverly is getting a cut of the U.K. PPV buys as I understand it. The pay sheet is misleading regarding him.
Good luck to him but I think the number of UK buys might be rather underwhelming
Would go along with Clev's entire career then wouldn't it?
Re: Round-By-Round - Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 19:46
by davie
Adam Smith "2 weight world champion Nathan Cleverly"
Aye?
Re: Round-By-Round - Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 20:02
by Tarkus
Jack should win this on points. It cant be that he is robbed again, after all this is FMJ promotion. I wonder what Clev has left in him though.
Re: Round-By-Round - Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 22:39
by handsofstone
I cant believe I wrote Jack off again,he always impresses me yet I still bet against him, that was the best ive seen him he did a demolition job on Cleverly, a complete breakdown, I cant believe how outgunned Cleverly was, Jack was punch perfect
Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 26 Aug 2017, 23:55
by Andrew
Realistic wrote:Naandrew wrote:handsofstone wrote:I think Cleverly wins this convincingly in the end, there might be a few tight early rounds but I think Nathan's natural size and punch volume will be too much for Jack in the end, ive written off Jack a good few times and he's always proved me wrong so maybe I should know better but Cleverly's too big IMO and will stop Jack late on
Completely disagree.
Jack for me is one of the most underrated fighters in the sport. He should be lineal super middleweight champion as well.
Time and time again Jack gets written off. The whole forum including myself thought Groves was going to run through him.
I think Cleverly pre Kovalev may have stood a chance but I think Jack is going to stop him around 9-10.
Bivol is mandated to fight the winner straight away as he stood aside for the fight to happen.
No way a stoppage, Badu couldn't knock out a W ank
Re: Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 27 Aug 2017, 00:36
by Realistic
Naandrew wrote:Realistic wrote:Naandrew wrote:
Completely disagree.
Jack for me is one of the most underrated fighters in the sport. He should be lineal super middleweight champion as well.
Time and time again Jack gets written off. The whole forum including myself thought Groves was going to run through him.
I think Cleverly pre Kovalev may have stood a chance but I think Jack is going to stop him around 9-10.
Bivol is mandated to fight the winner straight away as he stood aside for the fight to happen.
No way a stoppage, Badu couldn't knock out a W ank
I deserve that haha
Re: Round-By-Round - Nathan Cleverly vs. Badou Jack - August 26th 2017
Posted: 27 Aug 2017, 00:59
by Boxerbeetle
Clev needs to retire ASAP. Never been the same since Kovalev hammered him.