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boxing_rocks wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

SFW wrote:

What SFW said is right on. It seems to me that you are the stupid motherfucker boxingrocks.

What one motherf*cker (SFW) said and another motherf*cker (Badhusker) supported is a bunch of garbage. Overwhelming majority of specialists and fans think that Kovalev won, and a few motherf*ckers trying to play psychologists doesn't change anything.

thomasjkelley wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

Badhusker wrote:
What SFW said is right on. It seems to me that you are the stupid motherfucker boxingrocks.

What one motherf*cker (SFW) said and another motherf*cker (Badhusker) supported is a bunch of garbage. Overwhelming majority of specialists and fans think that Kovalev won, and a few motherf*ckers trying to play psychologists doesn't change anything.

This is true. SFW & Badhusker are the ones actually whining here. They are using a most common intellectually dishonest tactic: attempting to diminish a foe with negative & subjective ad-hominen attacks. By falsely associating Kovalev's (Or the viewer's) assessment of the fight with whining, they are trying to shut down any opposing opinion before it can even be posited. Essentially they are saying that they are tired of people disagreeing with them and wish it would stop all together. They're setting up a scenario in which they can define any disagreement as nothing more than whining and complaining. It doesn't appear to have worked but it is apparent that this was the aim.

Badhusker wrote:

thomasjkelley wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
What one motherf*cker (SFW) said and another motherf*cker (Badhusker) supported is a bunch of garbage. Overwhelming majority of specialists and fans think that Kovalev won, and a few motherf*ckers trying to play psychologists doesn't change anything.

This is true. SFW & Badhusker are the ones actually whining here. They are using a most common intellectually dishonest tactic: attempting to diminish a foe with negative & subjective ad-hominen attacks. By falsely associating Kovalev's (Or the viewer's) assessment of the fight with whining, they are trying to shut down any opposing opinion before it can even be posited. Essentially they are saying that they are tired of people disagreeing with them and wish it would stop all together. They're setting up a scenario in which they can define any disagreement as nothing more than whining and complaining. It doesn't appear to have worked but it is apparent that this was the aim.

I must have missed the outrage when Kovalev's skipped the face off the other day, or is hipocracy ok? Imagine if it was Ward?
Ward will dominate and possibly stop Kovalev. Don't be shocked. Probably hear the count was too fast, stopped too early, etc. Get your whining done ahead of time.

Enlightened-One wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:Overwhelming majority of specialists and fans think that Kovalev won, and a few motherf*ckers trying to play psychologists doesn't change anything.

It only took me about five minutes to ascertain the opinion of "a few motherf*cker" "specialists" that believed that Andre Ward deserved his victory over Sergey Kovalev:

• Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing): 115-112 Ward
• Adam Smith (Sky Sports): 114-113 Ward
• BS: 114-113 Ward
• Branson Wright (The Plain Dealer): 114-113 Ward
• Brian Campbell (ESPN): 114-113 Ward
• Danny Richardson (Script Media): 115-112 Ward
• Dylan Hernandez (LA Times): 114-113 Ward
• Eddie Hearn (Sky Sports): 114-113 Ward
• George Willis (NY Post): 114-113 Ward
• Kevin Iole (Yahoo Sports): 114-113 Ward
• Los Angeles Times: 114-113 Ward
• Lyle Fitzsimmons (CBS Sports): 114-113 Ward
• Mark Butcher (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Ward
• Mark Ortega (Freelance): 115-112 Ward
• Matthew Macklin (Sky Sports): 115-113 Ward
• Michael Rosenthal (Ring Magazine): 114-113 Ward
• Mike Coppinger (USA Today): 114-113 Ward
• New York Post Online: 114-113 Ward
• Paul Smith (Sky Sports): 115-112 Ward
• Paulie Malignaggi (Sky Sports): 116-112 Ward
• Phil D. Jay (WBN – World Boxing News): 114-113 Ward
• Ramon Aranda (3MoreRounds): 114-113 Ward
• Spencer Fearon (Sky Sports): 115-113 Ward
• The Ring: 114-113 Ward
• Tom Craze (Bad Left Hook): 114-113 Ward
• USA Today: 114-113, Ward
• Wolfgang Schiffbauer (German Freelancer): 114-113 Ward
• WorldBoxingNews: 114-113 Ward
• Yahoo! Sports: 114-113, Ward
• Steve Bunce (The Independent): Ward
• Ishe Smith (Fight-Hype): Ward

Whilst I cannot deny that many believed that Kovalev was deprived of a victory, there is also an undeniably large contingent of boxing “specialists” (your words) that claim that Ward deserved his win, which is only typical for an evenly-contested bout where there were a few swing rounds.

Simply put: you’re embellishing the situation to preposterous levels!

asdfjkl wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:Overwhelming majority of specialists and fans think that Kovalev won, and a few motherf*ckers trying to play psychologists doesn't change anything.

It only took me about five minutes to ascertain the opinion of "a few motherf*cker" "specialists" that believed that Andre Ward deserved his victory over Sergey Kovalev:

• Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing): 115-112 Ward
• Adam Smith (Sky Sports): 114-113 Ward
• BS: 114-113 Ward
• Branson Wright (The Plain Dealer): 114-113 Ward
• Brian Campbell (ESPN): 114-113 Ward
• Danny Richardson (Script Media): 115-112 Ward
• Dylan Hernandez (LA Times): 114-113 Ward
• Eddie Hearn (Sky Sports): 114-113 Ward
• George Willis (NY Post): 114-113 Ward
• Kevin Iole (Yahoo Sports): 114-113 Ward
• Los Angeles Times: 114-113 Ward
• Lyle Fitzsimmons (CBS Sports): 114-113 Ward
• Mark Butcher (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Ward
• Mark Ortega (Freelance): 115-112 Ward
• Matthew Macklin (Sky Sports): 115-113 Ward
• Michael Rosenthal (Ring Magazine): 114-113 Ward
• Mike Coppinger (USA Today): 114-113 Ward
• New York Post Online: 114-113 Ward
• Paul Smith (Sky Sports): 115-112 Ward
• Paulie Malignaggi (Sky Sports): 116-112 Ward
• Phil D. Jay (WBN – World Boxing News): 114-113 Ward
• Ramon Aranda (3MoreRounds): 114-113 Ward
• Spencer Fearon (Sky Sports): 115-113 Ward
• The Ring: 114-113 Ward
• Tom Craze (Bad Left Hook): 114-113 Ward
• USA Today: 114-113, Ward
• Wolfgang Schiffbauer (German Freelancer): 114-113 Ward
• WorldBoxingNews: 114-113 Ward
• Yahoo! Sports: 114-113, Ward
• Steve Bunce (The Independent): Ward
• Ishe Smith (Fight-Hype): Ward

Whilst I cannot deny that many believed that Kovalev was deprived of a victory, there is also an undeniably large contingent of boxing “specialists” (your words) that claim that Ward deserved his win, which is only typical for an evenly-contested bout where there were a few swing rounds.

Simply put: you’re embellishing the situation to preposterous levels!

Sorry, but nearly all of them are Americans or have Ward as a favorit, Eddy Hearn even got Ward as his P4P nr 1 of the world?! Despite "he's a dirty fighter without question"

Enlightened-One wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: It only took me about five minutes to ascertain the opinion of "a few motherf*cker" "specialists" that believed that Andre Ward deserved his victory over Sergey Kovalev:

• Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing): 115-112 Ward
• Adam Smith (Sky Sports): 114-113 Ward
• BS: 114-113 Ward
• Branson Wright (The Plain Dealer): 114-113 Ward
• Brian Campbell (ESPN): 114-113 Ward
• Danny Richardson (Script Media): 115-112 Ward
• Dylan Hernandez (LA Times): 114-113 Ward
• Eddie Hearn (Sky Sports): 114-113 Ward
• George Willis (NY Post): 114-113 Ward
• Kevin Iole (Yahoo Sports): 114-113 Ward
• Los Angeles Times: 114-113 Ward
• Lyle Fitzsimmons (CBS Sports): 114-113 Ward
• Mark Butcher (Boxing Monthly): 114-113 Ward
• Mark Ortega (Freelance): 115-112 Ward
• Matthew Macklin (Sky Sports): 115-113 Ward
• Michael Rosenthal (Ring Magazine): 114-113 Ward
• Mike Coppinger (USA Today): 114-113 Ward
• New York Post Online: 114-113 Ward
• Paul Smith (Sky Sports): 115-112 Ward
• Paulie Malignaggi (Sky Sports): 116-112 Ward
• Phil D. Jay (WBN – World Boxing News): 114-113 Ward
• Ramon Aranda (3MoreRounds): 114-113 Ward
• Spencer Fearon (Sky Sports): 115-113 Ward
• The Ring: 114-113 Ward
• Tom Craze (Bad Left Hook): 114-113 Ward
• USA Today: 114-113, Ward
• Wolfgang Schiffbauer (German Freelancer): 114-113 Ward
• WorldBoxingNews: 114-113 Ward
• Yahoo! Sports: 114-113, Ward
• Steve Bunce (The Independent): Ward
• Ishe Smith (Fight-Hype): Ward

Whilst I cannot deny that many believed that Kovalev was deprived of a victory, there is also an undeniably large contingent of boxing “specialists” (your words) that claim that Ward deserved his win, which is only typical for an evenly-contested bout where there were a few swing rounds.

Simply put: you’re embellishing the situation to preposterous levels!

Sorry, but nearly all of them are Americans or have Ward as a favorit, Eddy Hearn even got Ward as his P4P nr 1 of the world?! Despite "he's a dirty fighter without question"

There's fûck all wrong with my list. You're in denial.

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gilgamesh wrote:

greg wrote:https://twitter.com/TonyWeeks_/status/8 ... 3862614016

How close do you need to be to the action to be able to tell they were low? He was standing as close to the action as anybody and it happened 3 times for f*cks sake.

Considering Kovalev was clearly reacting as if to a low blow he knew exactly what he was doing when he stopped the fight. I've never in all my years watching boxing saw a dude react the way Kovalev was reacting to a clean body shot, it's a low blow, or at the very least he's trying to convince the referee it's a low blow.

Kovalev was definitely looking to the ref for help too much, but it was obviously not a moment to stop the fight.

Just means the issue will never be settled with Ward and Kovalev unfortunately, but I strongly got the feeling it was going Ward's away again. Unfortunately it wasn't allowed to run it's natural course so we'll never know what would've happened.