Round-By-Round - Tyron Zeuge vs. Paul Smith - June 17th 2017

[Vincent stevenson]

If paul is anywhere near his best he beats zeuge quite easily. Who cares how he got his shot . This is pro boxing. Good luck to him

[ThereByTheGrace]

If the fight was put together in the first place how surprising would it be if paul smith won the fight? Not very back an away win!

[Stuarty]

Zeuge obviously isn't any sort of world beater but the DeCarolis win arguably eclipses any of Smiths wins. In terms of experience its night and day though and Smiths two unsuccessful attempts at Abraham should stand him in good stead. It's an interesting match up even if it is very uninspiring as a world title contest.

Think I'll go for DeCarolis to grind out a points win.

[Taansend]

I want Smiff to win but let's be honest, him getting a title shot is everything that's bad about boxing.

He hasn't beaten one decent opponent.

He's been a pro for well over a decade.

He hasn't beaten one decent opponent.

He shouldn't be fighting for a world title.

He hasn't beaten one decent opponent.

I hope he wins

[CaptainSpacerod]

I want Smiff to win but let's be honest, him getting a title shot is everything that's bad about boxing.

He hasn't beaten one decent opponent.

He's been a pro for well over a decade.

He hasn't beaten one decent opponent.

He shouldn't be fighting for a world title.

He hasn't beaten one decent opponent.

I hope he wins

I'd be on a genuine downer if he won.

He seems like a decent chap, good family man, speaks well, seems intelligent enough and his behaviour is exemplary save for what happened at the Liam Williams fight but fairplay to him he was just sticking up for his kid brother.

But all the Sky hype around the Smiffs would be ratcheted up another notch if he won even though everyone who knows anything about boxing, not least Paul himself I'd imagine, knows that he doesn't deserve the shot and he's nowhere near world level and never has been.

Adam Smith will be giving it "Paul Smith joins a long and distinguished list of British SM World Champions" and he'll reel the list off and to name Smigga alongside those guys will frankly be an insult to them.

I just find it all insufferable.

[Taansend]

I want Smiff to win but let's be honest, him getting a title shot is everything that's bad about boxing.

He hasn't beaten one decent opponent.

He's been a pro for well over a decade.

He hasn't beaten one decent opponent.

He shouldn't be fighting for a world title.

He hasn't beaten one decent opponent.

I hope he wins

I'd be on a genuine downer if he won.

He seems like a decent chap, good family man, speaks well, seems intelligent enough and his behaviour is exemplary save for what happened at the Liam Williams fight but fairplay to him he was just sticking up for his kid brother.

But all the Sky hype around the Smiffs would be ratcheted up another notch if he won even though everyone who knows anything about boxing, not least Paul himself I'd imagine, knows that he doesn't deserve the shot and he's nowhere near world level and never has been.

Adam Smith will be giving it "Paul Smith joins a long and distinguished list of British SM World Champions" and he'll reel the list off and to name Smigga alongside those guys will frankly be an insult to them.

I just find it all insufferable.

But if he wins then there's hope for me

[CaptainSpacerod]

But if he wins then there's hope for me

You've changed my mind

Go Smigga

[wesshaw1985]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQOYr-SPk6g


ODDS -
Zeuge 1/6
Draw 28/1
Smith 6/1

anybody putting a few quid on Smith?

[Andrew]

My cousin was at the goodison park show last year early and watched smith in a 6 rounder against an Eastern European. This did not make TV

He said smith struggled and was was bruised up quite a bit as well. That gives me confidence in Zeuge.

Since then Smith has turned down multiple fights to save face ( he 100% turned down Chavez Jr.) so when he loses it is for a "world title" which this isn't.

[Ezzard]

The Paul Smith hate is so effing boring, I hope he wins.

x2. Yes the title opportunity is undeserved but you can't hold it against him for accepting it. Yes it's for a crap title but you can't hold it against him for going ahead anyway, its the best opportunity he'll get.

Paul Smith has faced Andre Ward, Abrahams twice - all on away soil - as well as DeGale and Groves. You can't question his heart, he gets in the ring with these top fighters and gives his best. I accept he's not beaten good class opposition to get another world title opportunity but in this age of multiple world champions, some fighters do get second and third bites of the cherry and thanks to his promoter, Smith has Sky behind him to pay for the rights to UK coverage. It's appalling to learn that apparently the WBA will rank a fighter on demand, but Smith hasn't made up that rule, nor does he control Sky TV. This will be his last big opportunity and I wish him well

Agree. I hope Smith wins. He used to come on these boards and seemed a decent chap.

[crusader]

The Paul Smith hate is so effing boring, I hope he wins.

x2. Yes the title opportunity is undeserved but you can't hold it against him for accepting it. Yes it's for a crap title but you can't hold it against him for going ahead anyway, its the best opportunity he'll get.

Paul Smith has faced Andre Ward, Abrahams twice - all on away soil - as well as DeGale and Groves. You can't question his heart, he gets in the ring with these top fighters and gives his best. I accept he's not beaten good class opposition to get another world title opportunity but in this age of multiple world champions, some fighters do get second and third bites of the cherry and thanks to his promoter, Smith has Sky behind him to pay for the rights to UK coverage. It's appalling to learn that apparently the WBA will rank a fighter on demand, but Smith hasn't made up that rule, nor does he control Sky TV. This will be his last big opportunity and I wish him well

Agree. I hope Smith wins. He used to come on these boards and seemed a decent chap.

As long as you agreed with him

[Marlo Stanfield]

x2. Yes the title opportunity is undeserved but you can't hold it against him for accepting it. Yes it's for a crap title but you can't hold it against him for going ahead anyway, its the best opportunity he'll get.

Paul Smith has faced Andre Ward, Abrahams twice - all on away soil - as well as DeGale and Groves. You can't question his heart, he gets in the ring with these top fighters and gives his best. I accept he's not beaten good class opposition to get another world title opportunity but in this age of multiple world champions, some fighters do get second and third bites of the cherry and thanks to his promoter, Smith has Sky behind him to pay for the rights to UK coverage. It's appalling to learn that apparently the WBA will rank a fighter on demand, but Smith hasn't made up that rule, nor does he control Sky TV. This will be his last big opportunity and I wish him well

Agree. I hope Smith wins. He used to come on these boards and seemed a decent chap.

As long as you agreed with him

#blocked

[PredatorHayds]

Take away the meaningless belt and it's a decent scrap.
Neither are world beaters but Zeuge by far the fresher should win on points.
Hope Smith makes weight or Twitter and this forum will explode.

[ThereByTheGrace]

When is the weigh in or has it already happened?

[bigjack]

When is the weigh in or has it already happened?

It's on Youtube,in German but looks like they both made the weight.

[wesshaw1985]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAuQEZWL1uU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-tlEMfM0kw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIulI4UTtC0

[ShadrachSimmo]

I want Smiff to win but let's be honest, him getting a title shot is everything that's bad about boxing.

He hasn't beaten one decent opponent.

He's been a pro for well over a decade.

He hasn't beaten one decent opponent.

He shouldn't be fighting for a world title.

He hasn't beaten one decent opponent.

I hope he wins

But he beat Tony Dodson...twice.....

...in 3 and a half years

[mickey1975]

I've jumped ship, go on Smigga (sorry lads).

[Bleak]

how touted wa s he as an amateur?
i no he was with Billy graham when he turned
so he'd of been around Hatton etc, I'm assuming he was highly thought of on that basis

[lefty]

The fume on social media is making me want to bet on Smith stoppage at 10/1. He wouldn't be the first undeserved challenger to win a world title (Gavin Rees says Hi) but I think he might 'justify' the ranking by winning. T

Yeah but the difference is the guys like Rees werent complete pudenda.

[Andrew]

Take away the meaningless belt and it's a decent scrap.
Neither are world beaters but Zeuge by far the fresher should win on points.
Hope Smith makes weight or Twitter and this forum will explode.

Is it a decent scrap though ?I think it may be pretty one sided for Zeuge. De Carolis from what I see would whoop Paul Smith.

Not only would Christophe Rebrasses wipe the floor with Paul Smith, I believe there are at least 10 super middleweights in Britain ( not including his brother) who would beat him.

I'm out tomorrow anyway and will miss it but I'll be back in the the main fight this weekend.

Hopefully I hear Smith has taken a one sided beat down and out of the sport for good. It will give me something good to watch before the Ward Kovalev fight.

[Andrew]

I want Smiff to win but let's be honest, him getting a title shot is everything that's bad about boxing.

He hasn't beaten one decent opponent.

He's been a pro for well over a decade.

He hasn't beaten one decent opponent.

He shouldn't be fighting for a world title.

He hasn't beaten one decent opponent.

I hope he wins

But he beat Tony Dodson...twice.....

...in 3 and a half years

I didn't think he beat Quigley for the British title.

[PredatorHayds]

Take away the meaningless belt and it's a decent scrap.
Neither are world beaters but Zeuge by far the fresher should win on points.
Hope Smith makes weight or Twitter and this forum will explode.

Is it a decent scrap though ?I think it may be pretty one sided for Zeuge. De Carolis from what I see would whoop Paul Smith.

Not only would Christophe Rebrasses wipe the floor with Paul Smith, I believe there are at least 10 super middleweights in Britain ( not including his brother) who would beat him.

I'm out tomorrow anyway and will miss it but I'll be back in the the main fight this weekend.

Hopefully I hear Smith has taken a one sided beat down and out of the sport for good. It will give me something good to watch before the Ward Kovalev fight.

I favour Zeuge wide on points, but IMO Smith would be the best name on his record.

De Carolis only became rated because Zeuge was so poor in fight 1.

At British level Fielding is fighting Cox. I'd pick both over Smigga but feel it would be competetive.

[Taansend]

Come On Smiffy

[crusader]

Is it on now?