I am positivly surprised about Floyd Mayweather

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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
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I'm a fan of Boxing, I'll take the side of any Boxer being wrongly accused.
All i say is he is very boring, where is that wrongly accused? U dont find his boxing style boring, good for you. I do. Beside that i can totaly aggree with u. He is an atg with one of the best records a boxer has ever had. But since i focus of fights being entertaining and not records of boxers floyd achievemants arent much interresting to me.

I've never defended him against being boring. I never addressed you about it. So ummm, yeah, :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You said you re a fan of boxing and would always stand behind the boxer wrongly accused. Where did i accuse floyd wrongly?
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Jip wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Jip wrote:
All i say is he is very boring, where is that wrongly accused? U dont find his boxing style boring, good for you. I do. Beside that i can totaly aggree with u. He is an atg with one of the best records a boxer has ever had. But since i focus of fights being entertaining and not records of boxers floyd achievemants arent much interresting to me.

I've never defended him against being boring. I never addressed you about it. So ummm, yeah, :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You said you re a fan of boxing and would always stand behind the boxer wrongly accused. Where did i accuse floyd wrongly?
If I'm talking to you, I'll quote you. You're the one that asked me a question. I answered it. The whole world doesn't revolve around you. The punch against Ortiz was warranted, that was the conversation, not cheppas feelings on his style.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Jip wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

I've never defended him against being boring. I never addressed you about it. So ummm, yeah, :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You said you re a fan of boxing and would always stand behind the boxer wrongly accused. Where did i accuse floyd wrongly?
If I'm talking to you, I'll quote you. You're the one that asked me a question. I answered it. The whole world doesn't revolve around you. The punch against Ortiz was warranted, that was the conversation, not cheppas feelings on his style.
You right
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Jip wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
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You said you re a fan of boxing and would always stand behind the boxer wrongly accused. Where did i accuse floyd wrongly?
If I'm talking to you, I'll quote you. You're the one that asked me a question. I answered it. The whole world doesn't revolve around you. The punch against Ortiz was warranted, that was the conversation, not cheppas feelings on his style.
You right
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As to whether Floyd is boring or not I'd say this.

Depends on the fight. Some of his fights are boring, some of 'em aren't.

Floyd vs Canelo or Floyd vs Baldomir...boring as sh*t.

Floyd vs Guerrero or Floyd vs Berto...boring

Floyd vs Maidana 1, Floyd vs De La Hoya, Floyd vs Judah...those were pretty entertaining.

Floyd vs Gatti, Floyd vs Ndou, Floyd vs Corrales...Floyd was dazzling in these performances, and I don't see how you could call them boring.


49 fights...It's been boring as sh*t, entertaining and everything in between somewhere along the way.
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gilgamesh wrote:As to whether Floyd is boring or not I'd say this.

Depends on the fight. Some of his fights are boring, some of 'em aren't.

Floyd vs Canelo or Floyd vs Baldomir...boring as sh*t.

Floyd vs Guerrero or Floyd vs Berto...boring

Floyd vs Maidana 1, Floyd vs De La Hoya, Floyd vs Judah...those were pretty entertaining.

Floyd vs Gatti, Floyd vs Ndou, Floyd vs Corrales...Floyd was dazzling in these performances, and I don't see how you could call them boring.


49 fights...It's been boring as sh*t, entertaining and everything in between somewhere along the way.
He was never boring at 130. I liked him then, especially after I cleaned up on him being the underdog against Corrales. Of course that's a vintage cherry pick now.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:As to whether Floyd is boring or not I'd say this.

Depends on the fight. Some of his fights are boring, some of 'em aren't.

Floyd vs Canelo or Floyd vs Baldomir...boring as sh*t.

Floyd vs Guerrero or Floyd vs Berto...boring

Floyd vs Maidana 1, Floyd vs De La Hoya, Floyd vs Judah...those were pretty entertaining.

Floyd vs Gatti, Floyd vs Ndou, Floyd vs Corrales...Floyd was dazzling in these performances, and I don't see how you could call them boring.


49 fights...It's been boring as sh*t, entertaining and everything in between somewhere along the way.
He was never boring at 130. I liked him then, especially after I cleaned up on him being the underdog against Corrales. Of course that's a vintage cherry pick now.
Yeah, and it's not uncommon in Combat Sports in general that once a guy reaches a certain level of notoriety he starts to fight more defensively because he stands to lose more by losing now. They don't wanna take a hit to their marketability and lose out on potential millions, but as you're coming up you gotta be exciting at some points or you don't make those millions in the first place.

And you're right Floyd was entertaining at 130. People forget stuff like that...or even more likely weren't even watching back then.
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gilgamesh wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:As to whether Floyd is boring or not I'd say this.

Depends on the fight. Some of his fights are boring, some of 'em aren't.

Floyd vs Canelo or Floyd vs Baldomir...boring as sh*t.

Floyd vs Guerrero or Floyd vs Berto...boring

Floyd vs Maidana 1, Floyd vs De La Hoya, Floyd vs Judah...those were pretty entertaining.

Floyd vs Gatti, Floyd vs Ndou, Floyd vs Corrales...Floyd was dazzling in these performances, and I don't see how you could call them boring.


49 fights...It's been boring as sh*t, entertaining and everything in between somewhere along the way.
He was never boring at 130. I liked him then, especially after I cleaned up on him being the underdog against Corrales. Of course that's a vintage cherry pick now.
Yeah, and it's not uncommon in Combat Sports in general that once a guy reaches a certain level of notoriety he starts to fight more defensively because he stands to lose more by losing now. They don't wanna take a hit to their marketability and lose out on potential millions, but as you're coming up you gotta be exciting at some points or you don't make those millions in the first place.

And you're right Floyd was entertaining at 130. People forget stuff like that...or even more likely weren't even watching back then.
They forget most everything, and that's fine, but he's done. Get a life. Mosley is another one, aside from Manny he was the runaway second choice for all of us at the time. If he would have fought anyone else he would have been ducking Shane. The MAN at Welter and a consensus top 5 p4p fighter.
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Not a Floyd fan or hater, respect he's a brilliant fighter though

As for the Ortiz fight, the shot was legal and rightly counted, but, in most sports there are unwritten laws, marks of respect as such, ultimately they don't mean anything as officials can't officiate unwritten rules, but Floyd on Ortiz was poor way for that fight to be resolved, it shouldn't be what boxings about.

I used to really like Floyd and now I pretty much "not bothered" either way with him. That happened gradually over time as his arrogant personality got more annoying and the general control he ha in boxing and vegas continued to grow strong.

The hand picked opponents, refs, control over how the chosen ref "refs" the fight, control at press conferences and media etc. I'm pretty much done with Floyd. It's only my love of Conor mcgregor that has me following this
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gilgamesh wrote:As to whether Floyd is boring or not I'd say this.

Depends on the fight. Some of his fights are boring, some of 'em aren't.

Floyd vs Canelo or Floyd vs Baldomir...boring as sh*t.

Floyd vs Guerrero or Floyd vs Berto...boring

Floyd vs Maidana 1, Floyd vs De La Hoya, Floyd vs Judah...those were pretty entertaining.

Floyd vs Gatti, Floyd vs Ndou, Floyd vs Corrales...Floyd was dazzling in these performances, and I don't see how you could call them boring.


49 fights...It's been boring as sh*t, entertaining and everything in between somewhere along the way.

Prety boy mayweather and money were 2 different boxers.

One was rich by far away from being mega rich. He fought defence but also offensiv, with some action packed fights.

The other was mega rich, mega ppv star and did 90 % defence 10 % offence and did just enough to win rds and was super boring and when a fight of his was entertaining than not bevause of him but his opponents brought drama and came fotward to fight like cotto or maidana.
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gilgamesh wrote:The punches from Floyd were 100% legal there were no grounds to call it a no contest. Joe Cortez had said "Alright fight"...Ortiz wanted to Hug instead of fight...that's his problem

I don't think he said "fight". He was also reminstrating with the timekeeper when the left hook landed. 2 facts: 1. There was enough confusion that it's reasonable to construe that 1 of the boxers didn't know the fight was restarted & 2. The ref never seen tbe final blows but counted him out anyway... Ortiz could've taken a bullet from the crowd for all that idiot JC knew.
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Ricky_ wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:The punches from Floyd were 100% legal there were no grounds to call it a no contest. Joe Cortez had said "Alright fight"...Ortiz wanted to Hug instead of fight...that's his problem

I don't think he said "fight". He was also reminstrating with the timekeeper when the left hook landed. 2 facts: 1. There was enough confusion that it's reasonable to construe that 1 of the boxers didn't know the fight was restarted & 2. The ref never seen tbe final blows but counted him out anyway... Ortiz could've taken a bullet from the crowd for all that idiot JC knew.
He said "fight" or "let's go" or something. I forget what, but I know he had indicated the action had resumed.
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F;(;#&_k ortiz . he is a moron. The tko was legal.
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I just made BBQ Hotdogs for lunch. I usually don't eat many hotdogs and I know it's not a delicacy, but I've never used BBQ sauce on them before. With Bacon and Colby jack cheese with some onions it was damn good.
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gilgamesh wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:The punches from Floyd were 100% legal there were no grounds to call it a no contest. Joe Cortez had said "Alright fight"...Ortiz wanted to Hug instead of fight...that's his problem

I don't think he said "fight". He was also reminstrating with the timekeeper when the left hook landed. 2 facts: 1. There was enough confusion that it's reasonable to construe that 1 of the boxers didn't know the fight was restarted & 2. The ref never seen tbe final blows but counted him out anyway... Ortiz could've taken a bullet from the crowd for all that idiot JC knew.
He said "fight" or "let's go" or something. I forget what, but I know he had indicated the action had resumed.
He definitely indicated to fight on whether he spoke or not. You can say it was bad sportsmanship or whatever you want but it was perfectly legal.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I just made BBQ Hotdogs for lunch. I usually don't eat many hotdogs and I know it's not a delicacy, but I've never used BBQ sauce on them before. With Bacon and Colby jack cheese with some onions it was damn good.
We BBQ'd some Hot Dogs yesterday among other things. I might have to cook up some bacon to throw on there...don't have any colby jack cheese, but I'm sure I got something.

I may take a crack at this...or a reasonable facsimile thereof :OhYes:
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gilgamesh wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I just made BBQ Hotdogs for lunch. I usually don't eat many hotdogs and I know it's not a delicacy, but I've never used BBQ sauce on them before. With Bacon and Colby jack cheese with some onions it was damn good.
We BBQ'd some Hot Dogs yesterday among other things. I might have to cook up some bacon to throw on there...don't have any colby jack cheese, but I'm sure I got something.

I may take a crack at this...or a reasonable facsimile thereof :OhYes:
The BBQ sauce made them! Warmed that up while they grilled. I must confess, I've been smoking all morning, but it was far superior to Ketchup or Mustard.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I just made BBQ Hotdogs for lunch. I usually don't eat many hotdogs and I know it's not a delicacy, but I've never used BBQ sauce on them before. With Bacon and Colby jack cheese with some onions it was damn good.
We BBQ'd some Hot Dogs yesterday among other things. I might have to cook up some bacon to throw on there...don't have any colby jack cheese, but I'm sure I got something.

I may take a crack at this...or a reasonable facsimile thereof :OhYes:
The BBQ sauce made them! Warmed that up while they grilled. I must confess, I've been smoking all morning, but it was far superior to Ketchup or Mustard.
I've been smoking all morning too :lol:
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gilgamesh wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
We BBQ'd some Hot Dogs yesterday among other things. I might have to cook up some bacon to throw on there...don't have any colby jack cheese, but I'm sure I got something.

I may take a crack at this...or a reasonable facsimile thereof :OhYes:
The BBQ sauce made them! Warmed that up while they grilled. I must confess, I've been smoking all morning, but it was far superior to Ketchup or Mustard.
I've been smoking all morning too :lol:
Bon apatite!
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I just made BBQ Hotdogs for lunch. I usually don't eat many hotdogs and I know it's not a delicacy, but I've never used BBQ sauce on them before. With Bacon and Colby jack cheese with some onions it was damn good.
Sounds delicious. Bbq sauce and sausages are a good fit
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Covfefe wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:

I don't think he said "fight". He was also reminstrating with the timekeeper when the left hook landed. 2 facts: 1. There was enough confusion that it's reasonable to construe that 1 of the boxers didn't know the fight was restarted & 2. The ref never seen tbe final blows but counted him out anyway... Ortiz could've taken a bullet from the crowd for all that idiot JC knew.
He said "fight" or "let's go" or something. I forget what, but I know he had indicated the action had resumed.
He definitely indicated to fight on whether he spoke or not. You can say it was bad sportsmanship or whatever you want but it was perfectly legal.
His instruction was unclear and he said it while reminstrating with a ringside official. It wasn't illegal conduct by any of the boxers - it was inept officiating. I'm not sure how any boxing fan can condone a ref counting a floored boxer when he never even seen how he got there.
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Jip wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote: I read your post but since English isn't your first language, I might have misinterpreted a couple of badly-written sentences.

That being said, it's pretty hard to misunderstand the nature of the following allegation that you made, which was something that I directly challenged:

You’re an embarrassment to this forum.

Sometimes the utterly bizarre comments that you post to this forum compel me to clench my ársé cheeks, to the point that my buttocks become vacuum packed in my boxer shorts, due to my own compulsion to empathise and feel pity for your horrific lack of intellect! :lol:
I can explain it in Dutch if you like, but you're probably not educated enough to understand...

Maybe this could help you:
https://www.sbnation.com/longform/2015/ ... rust-usada

I hope you do understand that.
Dont worry elightn one is an arrogant arsewhole. I cant stand him either....brut clone
Is it arrogant to research matters in order to educate oneself prior to articulating an opinion... or is it more noble to formulate opinions, whilst completely disregarding facts? :lol:

You thought that Ohara Davies was better than Terence Crawford, which you not have done had you possessed any knowledge of either man. :lol:
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Ricky_ wrote:
Covfefe wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
He said "fight" or "let's go" or something. I forget what, but I know he had indicated the action had resumed.
He definitely indicated to fight on whether he spoke or not. You can say it was bad sportsmanship or whatever you want but it was perfectly legal.
His instruction was unclear and he said it while reminstrating with a ringside official. It wasn't illegal conduct by any of the boxers - it was inept officiating. I'm not sure how any boxing fan can condone a ref counting a floored boxer when he never even seen how he got there.
https://youtu.be/ieJPRhlkVh4

He gestures fight on, definitely.

You're right though, watching it again I didn't remember him waving them in and then starting to engage someone at ringside. Shocking officiating.
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In terms of trash talking it s 1:1

Conor owned Toronto. Floyd was clueless. Loved it when Conor saif fu:&(; you to the showtime boss. What a epic press con
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caldo2025 wrote:I think that this will be the fight in which Floyd finally gets bagged with a needle in his ars and PEDS pumping through his body. One last money grab will end up being one too many. 40 year old men are not in this kind of shape. It's impossible. Watch when Floyd's shirt is off. He looks more ripped up than when he was fighting at freaking 130. Joke.

Literally shut up

I am 43 and in miles better physical looking shape than floyd.

I train with weights four times per week, I do cardio every day, I diet meticulously, I do not drink or smoke and i don't even look as good as half of my mates from the fitness industry. Smh
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