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Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 05:50
by Sklar
Perhaps doing the weight was tough going and he passed out rather than simply slipped.

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 05:53
by Horse
Rubbish fight anyway.

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 06:15
by BitPlayer
Bizzaire cancelation.

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 06:17
by 3132DW
chrisnew86 wrote:
GlobalBox wrote:Is the whole bill off does anyone know, surely they can't put the bill on now.
Yes mate, the whole show is off, Which surprises me to be honest...
The undercard was terrible - how do you determine how much refund you want to give or not enough notice to let folk seek refunds or if they wanted to attend or not.

The undercard wasn't even small hall show acceptable.

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 06:28
by chrisnew86
3132DW wrote:
chrisnew86 wrote:
GlobalBox wrote:Is the whole bill off does anyone know, surely they can't put the bill on now.
Yes mate, the whole show is off, Which surprises me to be honest...
The undercard was terrible - how do you determine how much refund you want to give or not enough notice to let folk seek refunds or if they wanted to attend or not.

The undercard wasn't even small hall show acceptable.
Yeah I suppose your right mate, its a tough one.

Not just for the fans I'm talking about the fighters on the undercard as well, they have all trained for fights , Weighed in, have over heads/ need to get paid.

shit undercard or not, I'm sure a large percentage of the crowd isn't thinking like you and would just fancy a night out still or thats what I can gauge from 90% of the responses on Twitter

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 06:39
by dalcumly
Have a think about this. If you are fit and healthy and you slip in the shower, it can happen, and you're going down , what is the natural instinct? I would say that you automatically throw your hands out to the break the fall. You might be too late and possibly bang your head against the shower wall or door. But to fall flat out to the extent that you damage your nose, teeth and chin is unusual.
With some rudimentary knowledge of injuries I would say that the chin injury was caused by coming into contact with two parallel lines with a gap in between. So this would support crashing into the runners for a shower door for example. But to fall with that force and not being able to react to break the fall I find difficult to accept.

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 06:42
by Sklar
dalcumly wrote:Have a think about this. If you are fit and healthy and you slip in the shower, it can happen, and you're going down , what is the natural instinct? I would say that you automatically throw your hands out to the break the fall. You might be too late and possibly bang your head against the shower wall or door. But to fall flat out to the extent that you damage your nose, teeth and chin is unusual.
With some rudimentary knowledge of injuries I would say that the chin injury was caused by coming into contact with two parallel lines with a gap in between. So this would support crashing into the runners for a shower door for example. But to fall with that force and not being able to react to break the fall I find difficult to accept.
Refer to my post earlier.

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 07:03
by dalcumly
You mean fainting and then fallen. Yes very possible, and an explanation.

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 07:19
by Sklar
dalcumly wrote:You mean fainting and then fallen. Yes very possible, and an explanation.
Yes.

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 09:41
by SticknMove
Perhaps he had trouble making the weight. Blood pressure dropped temporarily and went down before he could break his fall. Possible coz it happened to me many moons ago.

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 10:38
by ScottDetonator
No prime-time fights for us tonight then :doh:

Still got the big bill later though :TU:

As for Gutierrez, if the shower had taps, hot shower with steam, tiles...might explain it a little...

Slipping and banging your noggin on the wall, teeth and chin on the taps :brick: :brick: :brick:

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 10:51
by tobyh5
dalcumly wrote:You mean fainting and then fallen. Yes very possible, and an explanation.

That was my first assumption on reading the news

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 13:10
by chrisnew86
Also this image keeps popping up in my mind..... was he wanking when he fell?

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 15:12
by Boxerbeetle
chrisnew86 wrote:Also this image keeps popping up in my mind..... was he wanking when he fell?
Did he topple over while trying to make a converted effort to suck his own cock?

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 16:27
by boxingknockout
Boxerbeetle wrote:
chrisnew86 wrote:Also this image keeps popping up in my mind..... was he wanking when he fell?
Did he topple over while trying to make a converted effort to suck his own cock?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Bastards!!! :lol:

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 16:53
by rpms
boxingknockout wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
chrisnew86 wrote:Also this image keeps popping up in my mind..... was he wanking when he fell?
Did he topple over while trying to make a converted effort to suck his own cock?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Bastards!!! :lol:
Happens to the best of us.
Hope he perseveres,it`s worth it in the end

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 17:28
by boxingknockout
rpms wrote:
boxingknockout wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
Did he topple over while trying to make a converted effort to suck his own cock?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Bastards!!! :lol:
Happens to the best of us.
Hope he perseveres,it`s worth it in the end
I tried it when I was 14.... almost got there but damn near put my back and neck out.... can you imagine the ambulance people coming round when you're in the bath, with one leg behind your head, your neck cricked in position at stomach level and a half limp dick 6 inches from your mouth?

They'd all know what you were trying to do(as would your parents).... you'd be trying quickly to think of an excuse.... what the fvck would you say?!?! :lol: :lol:

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 17:32
by rpms
boxingknockout wrote:
rpms wrote:
boxingknockout wrote: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Bastards!!! :lol:
Happens to the best of us.
Hope he perseveres,it`s worth it in the end
I tried it when I was 14.... almost got there but damn near put my back and neck out.... can you imagine the ambulance people coming round when you're in the bath, with one leg behind your head, your neck cricked in position at stomach level and a half limp dick 6 inches from your mouth?

They'd all know what you were trying to do(as would your parents).... you'd be trying quickly to think of an excuse.... what the fvck would you say?!?! :lol: :lol:
I just told them that I sneezed whilst trying to bite my toenails :TU:

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 18:07
by Nightmare Roy
Ruthless-RKO wrote:He fell in the shower

this is his chin..

Image
What did he fall on? An axe?

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 29 Jul 2017, 18:34
by boxingknockout
rpms wrote:
boxingknockout wrote:
rpms wrote:
Happens to the best of us.
Hope he perseveres,it`s worth it in the end
I tried it when I was 14.... almost got there but damn near put my back and neck out.... can you imagine the ambulance people coming round when you're in the bath, with one leg behind your head, your neck cricked in position at stomach level and a half limp dick 6 inches from your mouth?

They'd all know what you were trying to do(as would your parents).... you'd be trying quickly to think of an excuse.... what the fvck would you say?!?! :lol: :lol:
I just told them that I sneezed whilst trying to bite my toenails :TU:
That is good thinking..... you might almost be able to get away with that! :lol:

My story would've been something like 'I was trying to touch my toes, and before I knew it I slipped and my cock fell into my mouth.... it's the truth. Honestly...'

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 30 Jul 2017, 00:57
by ILikeBeer
chrisnew86 wrote:Also this image keeps popping up in my mind..... was he wanking when he fell?
What's the matter with you?

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 30 Jul 2017, 03:35
by chrisnew86
ILikeBeer wrote:
chrisnew86 wrote:Also this image keeps popping up in my mind..... was he wanking when he fell?
What's the matter with you?
Its a pleasant image :TU:

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 08:55
by Crease
Nightmare Roy wrote:Image
Ouch, that looks a sore one alright.

But frankly I'm very surprised that Channel 5 didn't insist on putting a few quid for a replacement fighter???

They did with when Mick Hennessy had Tyson Fury fighting live on five. Twice they paid money to Martin Rogan to attend the event as a late stand-in just in case anything happened to Fury's opponents - first for Nicolai Firtha, then secondly for Neven Pajkic.

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 09:02
by forcefraser
That cut is Fast Car's calling card. It's clearly H for Hearn.

He sabotaged the event with a quick shower-bath attack. He'll stop at nothing to get the Jackal onboard.

Re: Carl Frampton v Andres Gutierrez

Posted: 31 Jul 2017, 09:14
by Crease
Horse wrote:Rubbish fight anyway.
I do agree with Horse on this. Horse and I have disagreed over many things, but ever since this fight was first announced I was underwhelmed and disappointed.

I've heard that Frampton and Barry want to reschedule the fight as soon as possible, but in my opinion he should let it go and look toward the likes of Lee Selby (who is now free) and Oscar Valdez as his next opponent.