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Re: Stiverne Will NOT Allow Wilder-Ortiz

Posted: 19 Jul 2017, 21:56
by RScarf1
Freedom wrote:Stivern should fight Charles Martin.
I think Wilder should fight Martin if he does not fight Ortiz.

Re: Stiverne Will NOT Allow Wilder-Ortiz

Posted: 19 Jul 2017, 22:15
by Freedom
Yes another safe fight.

Re: Stiverne Will NOT Allow Wilder-Ortiz

Posted: 19 Jul 2017, 22:19
by asdfjkl
Please keep Martin out of this...

Up to what point does Stiverne have a serious say in this? As far as I know Wilder can fight whoever he likes right? Like Wilder also fought Duhaupas instead of Povetkin

Re: Stiverne Will NOT Allow Wilder-Ortiz

Posted: 19 Jul 2017, 22:44
by boxing_rocks
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Omar Narvaez? We've already discussed Vitali and you go to semantics of top 10 ranked crap. Gil, you obnoxiously hate on Wilder. No big deal, just drop the whole unbiased act. His resume is poo, but he's never displayed any cowardly traits. Why don't you name me one legit offer he's turned down? Dude fights for the PBC, unless you're Robert Guerrero, almost all of them are fucked.
Omar Narvaez was barely even on my radar screen. He always fought in South America and sh*t. I'm aware of him, and I didn't think much of his reign. Vitali FOUGHT some Top 10 ranked opponents during his goddamn reign Saad. Did his competition suck balls? Yes.

But at the very least he fought some Top 10 guys. I'd dial back my hatred on Wilder if he JUST ONE F*CKING TIME! would defend his belt against Top 10 ranked opponent. I don't think it's asking much of a "World Champion" to fight an actual contender.
So you can't name one legitimate offer he's turned down? Yet he's a coward? You should say two, certainly not his fault that Povetkin pissed dirty. If he fought the exact same guys as Vitali you'd have the exact same opinion.
He turned down $4 mil for Povetkin fight. He hastily left UK and ran back to the U.S. before WBC even said its stupid word. Haymon could easily get WBC to delay their ruling till after the fight or Wilder could fight Povetkin in a non-title fight anyway. He had no wish to fight.

Re: Stiverne Will NOT Allow Wilder-Ortiz

Posted: 20 Jul 2017, 00:11
by SaadOffTheDeck
boxing_rocks wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Omar Narvaez was barely even on my radar screen. He always fought in South America and sh*t. I'm aware of him, and I didn't think much of his reign. Vitali FOUGHT some Top 10 ranked opponents during his goddamn reign Saad. Did his competition suck balls? Yes.

But at the very least he fought some Top 10 guys. I'd dial back my hatred on Wilder if he JUST ONE F*CKING TIME! would defend his belt against Top 10 ranked opponent. I don't think it's asking much of a "World Champion" to fight an actual contender.
So you can't name one legitimate offer he's turned down? Yet he's a coward? You should say two, certainly not his fault that Povetkin pissed dirty. If he fought the exact same guys as Vitali you'd have the exact same opinion.
He turned down $4 mil for Povetkin fight. He hastily left UK and ran back to the U.S. before WBC even said its stupid word. Haymon could easily get WBC to delay their ruling till after the fight or Wilder could fight Povetkin in a non-title fight anyway. He had no wish to fight.
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