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Ossyrules wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
Ok

- pulev last 5 vs wilder last 5. You say it makes Wilders look like murderers row. Huge exaggeration. Wilders last 5 is ordinary, pulevs is too. I have no problem if you think Wilders are tougher, but to suggest there is a massive gulf in class is way off. Notice you picked last 5, as if you picked last 6, it includes klitschko

- can't comment on all Joshua fans not wanting wilder? I don't see that type of feeling tbh, but it's not a fight I want Joshua to avoid, for sure.

- you say it's a 50/50. Is it? Look at there history and common opponent. Joshua consistently dominates opponents. Wilder practically stinks it out, looking bad, then the big punch solves his problems. I don't see it as 50/50 as Joshua actually boxes to create openings for his big punches. Wilder doesn't. That gives Joshua the advantage. Additionally a guy who punches as wide as wilder will get beat to the punch by a straight puncher, Joshua punches fairly straight. Wilder could knock out Joshua if the punch lands so I'd not rule him out completely. But Joshua has to be the favourite.

- Joshua no hero of mine and I'm not a fan boy. But I'm realistic. He's the best guy at the heavyweight right now.

Take your emotion out of it badhusker and analyse it objectively

There is no emotion involved. I like many want to see both of these guys tested. Ortiz included. Pulev turned down Joshua last year, so I would hate it if he got the shot considering his last 5 opponents. If you want to include Wlad, fine. I was nice to him by not doing it. Getting blasted out in 5 rounds isn't exactly what I would call a solid addition to my resume. I hope Joshua fights Ortiz or Wilder, and not Pulev. I know he will fight Pulev, then probably Ortiz, then Wilder...in that order. Maybe we will get lucky and Wilder will fight Ortiz in the meantime...

It's clear you have your motives vs Joshua. Joshua won't be lucky if wilder fights Ortiz in the meantime... wilder has been at the top longer than Joshua, not fighting Ortiz or any other top guys... never seen you commit against wilder like this though

Badhusker wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

Badhusker wrote:
There is no emotion involved. I like many want to see both of these guys tested. Ortiz included. Pulev turned down Joshua last year, so I would hate it if he got the shot considering his last 5 opponents. If you want to include Wlad, fine. I was nice to him by not doing it. Getting blasted out in 5 rounds isn't exactly what I would call a solid addition to my resume. I hope Joshua fights Ortiz or Wilder, and not Pulev. I know he will fight Pulev, then probably Ortiz, then Wilder...in that order. Maybe we will get lucky and Wilder will fight Ortiz in the meantime...

It's clear you have your motives vs Joshua. Joshua won't be lucky if wilder fights Ortiz in the meantime... wilder has been at the top longer than Joshua, not fighting Ortiz or any other top guys... never seen you commit against wilder like this though

If you think about it, they are all paper champs until they actually prove they deserve to be there. Joshua beating Wlad was a great win, but him beating the old guy that looked like dogshit against Fury is not. Joshua won the title off Charles Martin? His defenses are not impressive, unless you include Wlad.