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crusader wrote:I thought Canelo deserved the win over Trout, and have a hard time seeing how he lost with the KD accounted for. Either way, him and Lara hurt Trout more seriously than Charlo did.

Lackeos wrote:Charlo would basically be the best opponent Golovkin has fought, possibly except for Alvarez. Seems like he's doing a lot of talking just to excuse Golovkin from fighting someone dangerous.

crusader wrote:I was actually a bit surprised that Trout-Charlo was so close. Trout was taken apart, hurt, and dropped by Lara, and then went down multiple times against Dawson after that. I thought he looked on the way down and ready to be taken out by a supposedly huge puncher like Charlo. I wonder if Trout will come back and score some good wins, rather than just taking high profile losses.

Ricky_ wrote:Golovkin shouldn't be bothering with fighter's in Charlo's bracket. He's more than cut his teeth with such mundane fights. Time for the prize fights. If he doesn't blast out Canelo then they will likely have 2 fights in a row.

gilgamesh wrote:

crusader wrote:I was actually a bit surprised that Trout-Charlo was so close. Trout was taken apart, hurt, and dropped by Lara, and then went down multiple times against Dawson after that. I thought he looked on the way down and ready to be taken out by a supposedly huge puncher like Charlo. I wonder if Trout will come back and score some good wins, rather than just taking high profile losses.

He's slated to face Jarrett Hurd next. I think Trout can beat Hurd.

Butterbean wrote:

Lackeos wrote:Charlo would basically be the best opponent Golovkin has fought, possibly except for Alvarez. Seems like he's doing a lot of talking just to excuse Golovkin from fighting someone dangerous.

lmao. another butthurt yankee. Golovkin has by far the best record in modern boxing ! look at his last 20 opponents. epic idiocracy from u people !

G.McClellan wrote:Everyone can beat GGG until they're in the ring with him and on the canvas.

You know Golovkin is one of the greatest middleweights in history (if not the greatest) when he breaks the orbital bone of his opponent and forces his opponent's corner to retire their fighter in the 5th round, and all the media pundits question whether Golovkin was going easy on him.

Charlo is light work for Golovkin.

gilgamesh wrote:

crusader wrote:I thought Canelo deserved the win over Trout, and have a hard time seeing how he lost with the KD accounted for. Either way, him and Lara hurt Trout more seriously than Charlo did.

Lara dominated Trout. Nobody else has.

diddy wrote:Charlo doesn't deserve to fight GGG but Gregorz Proska and countless other stiffs did?

Yeah Ok. Go sell that crap to someone else.

Charlo has beaten Trout and Julian Williams. Trout would be a top 3 win for GGG.

gilgamesh wrote:

crusader wrote:I'd like to see Jacobs-Charlo

Charlo getting a lot of hype for a guy whose best win was a super close decision over Trout. Lara did a far better job and Canelo hurt Trout worse than Charlo ever did.

I thought Canelo lost to Trout myself. I had the Charlo vs Trout fight a draw. Trout usually always does exceptionally well, but for whatever reason he's always written off as "The other guy" in the fight.

gilgamesh wrote:

crusader wrote:I thought Canelo deserved the win over Trout, and have a hard time seeing how he lost with the KD accounted for. Either way, him and Lara hurt Trout more seriously than Charlo did.

Lara dominated Trout. Nobody else has.

Jip wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

crusader wrote:I thought Canelo deserved the win over Trout, and have a hard time seeing how he lost with the KD accounted for. Either way, him and Lara hurt Trout more seriously than Charlo did.

Lara dominated Trout. Nobody else has.

Lara is an atg. He beat back than the most avoided boxer pw, he prety much easily beat canelo. If lara was a us trash talker than he would be recognized on the level of floyd, talent wise they in the same league!

Would be interresting to see how ggg would deal with such an athletic defensive boxer with great reach such is lara.

Ggg vs lara/charlo/jacobs 2/eubank would be the final 4 fights i would like to see from g after the canelo fight.

greg wrote:..I was thinking of Charlo vs Jacobs ....and the winner fighting GGG..

Jip wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

crusader wrote:I thought Canelo deserved the win over Trout, and have a hard time seeing how he lost with the KD accounted for. Either way, him and Lara hurt Trout more seriously than Charlo did.

Lara dominated Trout. Nobody else has.

Lara is an atg. He beat back than the most avoided boxer pw, he prety much easily beat canelo. If lara was a us trash talker than he would be recognized on the level of floyd, talent wise they in the same league!

Would be interresting to see how ggg would deal with such an athletic defensive boxer with great reach such is lara.

Ggg vs lara/charlo/jacobs 2/eubank would be the final 4 fights i would like to see from g after the canelo fight.

caldo2025 wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:With all that said, Sanchez DOES have a point here. Charlo has had 1 fight at MW and it was against a guy with one leg. Hardly deserving of a mandatory title defense at this weight. Stupid.

• Didn't Jorge Sebastian Heiland initially gain mandatory challenger status for the WBC title 2½ years ago, whilst remaining undefeated since he gained that moniker until his loss to Jermall Charlo?

• How many top-ten world-rated middleweight had Willie Monroe Jr. faced prior to fighting GGG?

• Didn't Matthew Macklin lose two of his previous three bouts prior to facing GGG?

• Wasn't Nobuhiro Ishida a former light middleweight that had failed to win ten of his bouts (at the time he fought GGG), entered the ring against Golovkin having tasted defeat in his previous two outings?

• Didn't the former light middleweight, Gabriel Rosado, lose five of his bouts prior to facing GGG, having never previously engaged in either a 160lb bout nor a world title fight?

• Didn't Lajuan Simon lose three of his previous five bouts at the time he fought Golovkin… and had even lost his previous bout immediately prior to facing GGG?

• Hadn't the former light middleweight Kassim Ouma taste defeat in five of his previous seven bouts at the time he entered the ring against Golovkin?

• Is a bout between Jermall Charlo any worse than Golovkin’s previous bouts against unrated (i.e. not true top-ten ranked) middleweights that we saw GGG defend his word titles against, such as?

Dominic Wade
Willie Monroe Jr.
Osumanu Adama
Nobuhiro Ishida
Gabriel Rosado
Makoto Fuchigami
Lajuan Simon
Kassim Ouma
Nilson Julio Tapia
Milton Nunez

• How many legitimate (not technical) middleweight fights had Canelo, Kell Brook, Dominic Wade and Gabriel Rosado had prior to facing GGG?

• What about Abel Sanchez's other comments? Do you feel that they are reminiscent of the opponents that previously refused to consider facing GGG?

My guess is that Charlo and GGG will never fight. I think that GGG's got 3 or 4 more fights left as he's already hinted at retirement so you have the rematch with Canelo which is a given. Rematch with Jacobs. One fight against whomever holds the WBO belt sprinkled in as well so there's not much room for Charlo.

I just had a bad taste in my mouth over Charlo's fight last weekend. How THAT was a title eliminator made me laugh. Aside from the fact that the guy Charlo was fighting had a boxing style that resembled me walking out of the bar early this morning, he had one leg. Unlike you, i'm a purist fan that will never agree with undeserving "mandatory" defenses. Charlo's FIRST fight at MW is a title eliminator? Give me a break. Lemieux has been knocking guys out left and right and is 100 times more deserving.