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USMCer wrote:

seattledirk wrote:

USMCer wrote:I thought Max Kellerman was smarter than this...

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Of course the smaller gloves if anything will increase the likelihood of a lucky punch ending the fight and those are the only shot Conor has. Don't know why Kellerman is ignorant to that simple logic. Maybe he felt to sophisticated to go with the obvious.

One more thing that might make the miracle happen:
The first victim of aging in combat sports are reflexes, the second victim is the chin.
We've seen countless examples of fighters (boxing, MMA, etc.) turning "old" over night. Roy Jones Jr., Anderson Silva, Fedor Emelianenko... all suddenly went south from one fight to the next. When the reflexes are gone and your chin becomes vulnerable, suddenly you lost all that magic and it usually happens way before the fighter turns 40.
That and the small chance of Floyd breaking both hands on Conors forehead are the only reasons I can think of why Conor might have a shot. It definitely won't be because he's the better boxer.

I'd add...
- Southpaw element
- Awkward stance/range
- The unknown factor/unorthodox approach (besides stance)
- Lack of Reach advantage (which Floyd is used to)
- Lack of Mind-game advantage (which Floyd is used to)

It's a bunch of different little factors, for me.

SFW wrote:Southpaw element has never mattered in the slightest when it comes to Floyd.
Any awkwardness is historically exploited by technique, any odd stance puts the guy doing it in a worse position than the guy facing it. Hence why awkward rarely benefits anyone.
Lack of mind game advantadge is some built up fantasy I'm assuming, since it has no basis in reality. That's the only one I laughed at, only one that doesn't seem even feasible. Connor constantly lies, has given up multiple times, and may well give up again shocking no one. Floyd is mentally stronger than Connor, the fight will be undeniable proof of that. Mma fans in general can deny anything regardless of evidence but their approval is quite meaningless. They don't even know what their watching in their own sport much less boxing.

The only real question is how much can Connor take and does his body give out before his will or the other way around.

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SFW wrote:

USMCer wrote:

seattledirk wrote:...
Of course the smaller gloves if anything will increase the likelihood of a lucky punch ending the fight and those are the only shot Conor has. Don't know why Kellerman is ignorant to that simple logic. Maybe he felt to sophisticated to go with the obvious.

One more thing that might make the miracle happen:
The first victim of aging in combat sports are reflexes, the second victim is the chin.
We've seen countless examples of fighters (boxing, MMA, etc.) turning "old" over night. Roy Jones Jr., Anderson Silva, Fedor Emelianenko... all suddenly went south from one fight to the next. When the reflexes are gone and your chin becomes vulnerable, suddenly you lost all that magic and it usually happens way before the fighter turns 40.
That and the small chance of Floyd breaking both hands on Conors forehead are the only reasons I can think of why Conor might have a shot. It definitely won't be because he's the better boxer.

I'd add...
- Southpaw element
- Awkward stance/range
- The unknown factor/unorthodox approach (besides stance)
- Lack of Reach advantage (which Floyd is used to)
- Lack of Mind-game advantage (which Floyd is used to)

It's a bunch of different little factors, for me.

- Southpaw element has never mattered in the slightest when it comes to Floyd.

- Any awkwardness is historically exploited by technique, any odd stance puts the guy doing it in a worse position than the guy facing it. Hence why awkward rarely benefits anyone.

- Lack of mind game advantadge is some built up fantasy I'm assuming, since it has no basis in reality.
That's the only one I laughed at, only one that doesn't seem even feasible. Connor constantly lies, has given up multiple times, and may well give up again shocking no one. Floyd is mentally stronger than Connor, the fight will be undeniable proof of that.

Mma fans in general can deny anything regardless of evidence but their approval is quite meaningless. They don't even know what their watching in their own sport much less boxing.

The only real question is how much can Connor take and does his body give out before his will or the other way around.

USMCer wrote:

seattledirk wrote:

USMCer wrote:I thought Max Kellerman was smarter than this...

...
Of course the smaller gloves if anything will increase the likelihood of a lucky punch ending the fight and those are the only shot Conor has. Don't know why Kellerman is ignorant to that simple logic. Maybe he felt to sophisticated to go with the obvious.

One more thing that might make the miracle happen:
The first victim of aging in combat sports are reflexes, the second victim is the chin.
We've seen countless examples of fighters (boxing, MMA, etc.) turning "old" over night. Roy Jones Jr., Anderson Silva, Fedor Emelianenko... all suddenly went south from one fight to the next. When the reflexes are gone and your chin becomes vulnerable, suddenly you lost all that magic and it usually happens way before the fighter turns 40.
That and the small chance of Floyd breaking both hands on Conors forehead are the only reasons I can think of why Conor might have a shot. It definitely won't be because he's the better boxer.

I'd add...
- Southpaw element
- Awkward stance/range
- The unknown factor/unorthodox approach (besides stance)
- Lack of Reach advantage (which Floyd is used to)
- Lack of Mind-game advantage (which Floyd is used to)

It's a bunch of different little factors, for me.

pound per pound wrote:

USMCer wrote:

seattledirk wrote:...
Of course the smaller gloves if anything will increase the likelihood of a lucky punch ending the fight and those are the only shot Conor has. Don't know why Kellerman is ignorant to that simple logic. Maybe he felt to sophisticated to go with the obvious.

One more thing that might make the miracle happen:
The first victim of aging in combat sports are reflexes, the second victim is the chin.
We've seen countless examples of fighters (boxing, MMA, etc.) turning "old" over night. Roy Jones Jr., Anderson Silva, Fedor Emelianenko... all suddenly went south from one fight to the next. When the reflexes are gone and your chin becomes vulnerable, suddenly you lost all that magic and it usually happens way before the fighter turns 40.
That and the small chance of Floyd breaking both hands on Conors forehead are the only reasons I can think of why Conor might have a shot. It definitely won't be because he's the better boxer.

I'd add...
- Southpaw element
- Awkward stance/range
- The unknown factor/unorthodox approach (besides stance)
- Lack of Reach advantage (which Floyd is used to)
- Lack of Mind-game advantage (which Floyd is used to)

It's a bunch of different little factors, for me.

Its a bad mismatch. The best pound for pound boxer of his generation facing an 0-0 boxer.

The question is can McGregor fight smart?

If I'm McGregor's coach, I tell him to let his hands go in the corners, stay out of the middle of the ring, and go to the body a lot. Forget the head on the outside and jabbing and be ready to get hit often.

Be rough in the clinches, wait for him to tire later, then come alive later in the fight.

What I expect? A near shut out by Mayweather and later round stoppage if his hands are okay.

seattledirk wrote:Once Conor figures out that he gets destroyed, he could just land a sloppy, telegraphed double-leg takedown and submit Floyd within 10 seconds