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gilgamesh wrote:I had it 86-85 Floyd coming to the 10th, but the writing was on the wall from the 7th round onward.

Anybody who didn't give Conor the first 3 rounds is lying their ass off... is corrupt as Hell... or is blind as shiit... The 4th was close but it really goes to McGregor.. The only reason Floyd started taking the offensive in the 4th is McGregor was starting to tire.. The real culprits for McGregor were weight draining and no defense... He was badly drained... He had very little on his punches from the 4th on, but he tried like Hell to rally in the 8th... That wiped him out completely... Many gave him the 8th, but I didn't.. He was a dishrag by that time and was throwing fluff that Floyd walked straight through.

I would have stopped the fight in the 9th.. It makes no fukking sense to take punches when you have no strength to fire back, and you have no sophisticated defensive skills to dampen the effect of the incoming bombs that are ripping your head off.. Floyd started tagging Conor with 7 or 8 loaded power shots in a row... As soon as Manny Pacquiao started killing the weight drained Oscar De La Hoya the corner pulled him out... And Oscar was a boxer.

Enlightened-One wrote:At no point in the contest did Floyd look remotely troubled by Conor's punches, with the notable exception of the low blow that was thrown at the start of the ninth round.

Floyd was wary of Conor's power early on... A few of those punches concerned Floyd and he certainly felt them... Floyd was never hurt. McGregor never threw hard -- because he knew he had to go 12 rounds... The LAST thing Conor wanted was to get tired and get stopped -- even though that's what happened... That was always their fear... The thing they were super worried about was lasting the 12 when Conor's only chance was an early KO...

The only possible way Conor can make a KO happen is to throw as hard as he could... You're going to get tired anyway so you better go for it early... George Foreman wasn't worried about punching too hard against Frazier and gassing himself out... He let it all hang out because he was finding the target.. He didn't have any championship rounds or Title Fight experience and he was a big underdog -- but he was fighting a little guy and it was a power mismatch.

Enlightened-One wrote:Even the infamous counter right uppercut thrown by McGregor that landed during the first round did absolutely nothing to Floyd

It wasn't infamous...and it didn't hit YOU... You didn't feel it and have no idea... It was one of the many clean solid shots McGregor landed on the all-time defensive master in the first 3 rounds.. That wasn't because Conor has any boxing ability.. He's simply very fast, athletic, and he wasn't dead out of gas.. In the 4th he started to get tired and you can't fool Floyd.. He feels the shots and he knows exactly when you're starting to fatigue.. Conor ceased being dangerous and Mayweather started taking the offensive.. McGregor was weight drained.. He had that slightly wasted, slightly pasty look that you see on weight drained fighters -- like Paul Williams for the first Carlos Quintana fight and Oscar De La Hoya for the Manny Pacquiao fight...

The way McGregor outscored Floyd for the first 3 rounds he would have done well if he got the weight making regimen correct ... and if he did a proper roadwork schedule... Anybody who says you don't need roadwork to build stamina and endurance for Boxing knows nothing about cardio conditioning.. It's completely batz not to run 5 miles early in the morning.. You don't need 6 or 10 miles like some boxers run... You're not trying to be a distance runner, but you need a good 5 miles in 30 minutes and you should recover your wind in 5 minutes.. You're not right until you get there.. If you want to fight at a hard pace and not get tired you also need sharp defensive skills.. Taking power shots breaks you down and 6 rounds can feel like 20.

lazboy wrote:

FastestHandsInThewest wrote:

Covfefe wrote:
Kept implies several times. Please show me where Mayweather gets hurt a few times. Or even just once, the low blow didn't even hurt him.

Go rewatch the fight. He landed an uppercut that landed flesh that hurt him and a body shot that he claimed was low but badly hurt him so the ref had to come save him. Geez the nuthuggers on here blow my mind.

The uppercut that was shown in slow mo? The arm punch uppercut that didnt wobble his legs, that didnt stop him coming forward or even freeze him. The low blow, that was a low blow, in round 9 where Floyd completly dominated and came on after being low blowed? You know boxers take punches to the head for a living. Hurt? There's a difference between a punch landing and a punch hurting a fighter.

He was hurt he could just take a punch.

Enlightened-One wrote:

FastestHandsInThewest wrote:

lazboy wrote:

Sorry mate, didnt hurt him at all. Did nothing to him. Watch the fight again, watch the effective blocking by Floyd in the first 3. Then watch every other round and see a McConor being dominated.

Can I please have a McConor with cheese and fries.

I watched it twice. Mayweather was hurt looked hurt and acted hurt that's why he kept calling the ref to save him. You really are a casual.

Conor McGregor never hurt Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Even the infamous counter right uppercut thrown by McGregor that landed during the first round did absolutely nothing to Floyd.

At no point in the contest did Floyd look remotely troubled by Conor's punches, with the notable exception of the low blow that was thrown at the start of the ninth round.

Naw it hurt him and so did the body punch.

Covfefe wrote:

FastestHandsInThewest wrote:

Covfefe wrote:
Kept implies several times. Please show me where Mayweather gets hurt a few times. Or even just once, the low blow didn't even hurt him.

Go rewatch the fight. He landed an uppercut that landed flesh that hurt him and a body shot that he claimed was low but badly hurt him so the ref had to come save him. Geez the nuthuggers on here blow my mind.

Proper hurt.

There is literally nothing on that shot, he doesn't even snap his head back.

Yeah he looked rattled give Mayweather some credit he weathers the storm.

The uppercut rocked Floyd pretty good... It didn't hurt him... Mosley really hurt Floyd and there's a big difference between being rocked and being hurt.. Shane hit Floyd on the right spot and his legs went all over the place.. You sure couldn't tell from looking at Floyd's poker face that he was hurt.. But you looked at his legs and they were quavering all over the place as he was attacking Mosley.. Shane followed up very poorly because Floyd handled it so well.. You get one shot at a guy like Floyd Mayweather.. Gene Tunney was down once in his career of 80 some fights.. Jack Dempsey was on him like a wet T-shirt when he got up.

Floyd rocked McGregor quite a few times before he actually started hurting him.. You can't keep taking big power shots without getting hurt.. Even George Chuvalo was badly hurt when Frazier and Foreman kept hitting him with big power shots over and over again.. Nobody absorbs too many of those.. Those shots can actually kill you.. Conor took too many flush power shots -- without much skill or knowledge on how to lessen their impact.

Kalan wrote:The uppercut rocked Floyd pretty good... It didn't hurt him... Mosley really hurt Floyd and there's a big difference between being rocked and being hurt.. Shane hit Floyd on the right spot and his legs went all over the place.. You sure couldn't tell from looking at Floyd's poker face that he was hurt.. But you looked at his legs and they were quavering all over the place as he was attacking Mosley.. Shane followed up very poorly because Floyd handled it so well.. You get one shot at a guy like Floyd Mayweather.. Gene Tunney was down once in his career of 80 some fights.. Jack Dempsey was on him like a wet T-shirt when he got up.

Floyd rocked McGregor quite a few times before he actually started hurting him.. You can't keep taking big power shots without getting hurt.. Even George Chuvalo was badly hurt when Frazier and Foreman kept hitting him with big power shots over and over again.. Nobody absorbs too many of those.. Those shots can actually kill you.. Conor took too many flush power shots -- without much skill or knowledge on how to lessen their impact.

First there's stung then rocked/hurt which are the same thing, after that is "out on your feet", following that is Amir Khanned. Floyd was no of those things.

It surprised him. That's it, it didn't even bother him. Or whatever definition comes before stung.

I have no real issue with these.

Probably would have given McGregor round 2.

--- TUE 49-0 scorecards and reffing in Vegas always a joke, and the fight was a hoax, so looking at the usual duchesses here arguing over the scoring is sorta like watching a comic fail on stage, it's funnier than the material. The fight was pulled just as soon as Conor went the UFC championship 29 minute distance in boxing fight rounds as agreed upon.

McG and UFC utterly clowned boxing as all the idiot experts said Conor wouldn't land a punch, blah, blah, black sheep, have you any wool?
Yes sir, yes sir, three bags full!
One for the master,
One for the lame,
And one for the little boys
With wool pulled over their little toys.

How many times did the boxer turn his back to McG? What, he wanted a dry hump in public? The poor guy has a genetic disorder that sees his Y chromosome crossing over slowly into an X. Hard to believe so many boxing fans buy into this sissy era of boxing, but hey ho, I read the average male Western testosterone count is down 50% of what it should be, TUE's being less than 85 year old Arum in the Pac fight.

Whatever butters you sweet patooties.

HomicideHenry wrote:True enough, but... If all McGregor fights is stylists... Say, Paulie Malignaggi... His chances are good to grow and learn and develop.

sure. but why would he do that?

MMAPayout.com say the replay on Showtime drew 549,000 viewers

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lazboy wrote:

Kalan wrote:The uppercut rocked Floyd pretty good... It didn't hurt him... Mosley really hurt Floyd and there's a big difference between being rocked and being hurt.. Shane hit Floyd on the right spot and his legs went all over the place.. You sure couldn't tell from looking at Floyd's poker face that he was hurt.. But you looked at his legs and they were quavering all over the place as he was attacking Mosley.. Shane followed up very poorly because Floyd handled it so well.. You get one shot at a guy like Floyd Mayweather.. Gene Tunney was down once in his career of 80 some fights.. Jack Dempsey was on him like a wet T-shirt when he got up.

Floyd rocked McGregor quite a few times before he actually started hurting him.. You can't keep taking big power shots without getting hurt.. Even George Chuvalo was badly hurt when Frazier and Foreman kept hitting him with big power shots over and over again.. Nobody absorbs too many of those.. Those shots can actually kill you.. Conor took too many flush power shots -- without much skill or knowledge on how to lessen their impact.

First there's stung then rocked/hurt which are the same thing, after that is "out on your feet", following that is Amir Khanned. Floyd was no of those things.

Rocked and hurt aren't the same. If you have a good chin you can absorb a Hell of a shot without getting hurt. It may rock you back on your heels, twist your head, or even floor you .... A flash knockdown doesn't necessarily hurt you either. It was just a hard shot that knocked you down but didn't land on the button. Maybe you were off balance .... Getting stung is a punch that lands on the nerve, temple, or vulnerable spot, but not real hard. It may not rock you but it hurts. Your opponent likely isn't aware unless you give it away .... Getting buzzed doesn't cause you any pain, but the word describes the sensation you get in your head. Your knees might not buckle -- or they might. A lot harder and you would have been knocked out.

An experienced opponent knows when you're hurt. Mosley hurt Floyd real good, but Floyd conned him by attacking hard. But Floyd was fresh .... If you're so exhausted you can't throw back, that's when you get worked like McGregor did in the 9th and 10th. That damages you a lot worse than a 1-punch KO, which does erode your chin as well, but not as badly as getting battered about the ring when you're exhausted and defenseless. If the referee is forced to stop it it's too bad. I would have pulled Conor after the 9th. It wasn't going to get better because Conor was throwing fluff.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. wasn't even "rocked" by Conor McGregor. The Irishman landed a counter right uppercut that connected, but didn't phase Money May in any way. It had no effect whatsoever.

Only personal bias would compel those to over dramatize the impact of McGregor’s shots.

Kalan wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:I had it 86-85 Floyd coming to the 10th, but the writing was on the wall from the 7th round onward.

Anybody who didn't give Conor the first 3 rounds is lying their ass off... is corrupt as Hell... or is blind as shiit... The 4th was close but it really goes to McGregor.. The only reason Floyd started taking the offensive in the 4th is McGregor was starting to tire.. The real culprits for McGregor were weight draining and no defense... He was badly drained... He had very little on his punches from the 4th on, but he tried like Hell to rally in the 8th... That wiped him out completely... Many gave him the 8th, but I didn't.. He was a dishrag by that time and was throwing fluff that Floyd walked straight through.

I would have stopped the fight in the 9th.. It makes no fukking sense to take punches when you have no strength to fire back, and you have no sophisticated defensive skills to dampen the effect of the incoming bombs that are ripping your head off.. Floyd started tagging Conor with 7 or 8 loaded power shots in a row... As soon as Manny Pacquiao started killing the weight drained Oscar De La Hoya the corner pulled him out... And Oscar was a boxer.

BS

Simple fight to score

1-2 Conor
3 close I gave it Floyd personally
4 clear Floyd
5-10 Floyd

My card 8-2. Won't argue with 7-3. No idea how some gives mcgregor any more than 3

man wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:True enough, but... If all McGregor fights is stylists... Say, Paulie Malignaggi... His chances are good to grow and learn and develop.

sure. but why would he do that?

$$$$$

If McGregor can prove that he is credible in boxing by facing Paulie Malignaggi and beating him, then, you want to keep that win streak going. Stylists, are not going to pose the same threat as punchers.

$$$$$ is ultimately everything because he probably could make more money in a grudge fight with Malignaggi than he could Diaz III in the UFC, crazy as that sounds.

Conor would have to get medical clearance before he can box again... He took a battering that his corner shouldn't have allowed... He didn't have Boxing people in his corner -- it was the Keystone Kops.

But if he can rejuvenate himself mentally and physically -- and learn a little about defense... and if he starts doing the roadwork required for BOXING. Than Paulie would be his most lucrative match-up -- because Malignaggi is such a pain-in-the-ass that even boxers want to see Conor knock him out.

Ossyrules wrote: 3 close I gave it Floyd personally

No kidding??? You're a Floydie... That was a clear McGregor round... The 4th was close and the 8th... I gave the 4th to McGregor the 8th to Floyd because Conor's shots were so weak by the 8th.. Floyd delivered 3 deliberate fouls in the 4th... 2 flagrant low blows and a flagrant elbow, right in front of the referee... If those were legal the round goes to Floyd.. People scored those 2 rounds either way, but you'd have to be blind or an extremely partisan Floydie to give Floyd the 3rd.

Kalan wrote:

lazboy wrote:

Kalan wrote:The uppercut rocked Floyd pretty good... It didn't hurt him... Mosley really hurt Floyd and there's a big difference between being rocked and being hurt.. Shane hit Floyd on the right spot and his legs went all over the place.. You sure couldn't tell from looking at Floyd's poker face that he was hurt.. But you looked at his legs and they were quavering all over the place as he was attacking Mosley.. Shane followed up very poorly because Floyd handled it so well.. You get one shot at a guy like Floyd Mayweather.. Gene Tunney was down once in his career of 80 some fights.. Jack Dempsey was on him like a wet T-shirt when he got up.

Floyd rocked McGregor quite a few times before he actually started hurting him.. You can't keep taking big power shots without getting hurt.. Even George Chuvalo was badly hurt when Frazier and Foreman kept hitting him with big power shots over and over again.. Nobody absorbs too many of those.. Those shots can actually kill you.. Conor took too many flush power shots -- without much skill or knowledge on how to lessen their impact.

First there's stung then rocked/hurt which are the same thing, after that is "out on your feet", following that is Amir Khanned. Floyd was no of those things.

Rocked and hurt aren't the same. If you have a good chin you can absorb a Hell of a shot without getting hurt. It may rock you back on your heels, twist your head, or even floor you .... A flash knockdown doesn't necessarily hurt you either. It was just a hard shot that knocked you down but didn't land on the button. Maybe you were off balance .... Getting stung is a punch that lands on the nerve, temple, or vulnerable spot, but not real hard. It may not rock you but it hurts. Your opponent likely isn't aware unless you give it away .... Getting buzzed doesn't cause you any pain, but the word describes the sensation you get in your head. Your knees might not buckle -- or they might. A lot harder and you would have been knocked out.

An experienced opponent knows when you're hurt. Mosley hurt Floyd real good, but Floyd conned him by attacking hard. But Floyd was fresh .... If you're so exhausted you can't throw back, that's when you get worked like McGregor did in the 9th and 10th. That damages you a lot worse than a 1-punch KO, which does erode your chin as well, but not as badly as getting battered about the ring when you're exhausted and defenseless. If the referee is forced to stop it it's too bad. I would have pulled Conor after the 9th. It wasn't going to get better because Conor was throwing fluff.

No, no special Kalan (Special K). Being rocked and hurt are the same thing. As for your definitions....You are either rocked or not, there is no prerequisite other than say...a punch. Some people won't get rocked/hurt easily and others are rocked and further "out on their feet" when they haven't even been dropped. It all depends you see.

By the way I'm curious, I haven't seen you on the forum for a couple of weeks. Where have you been? Did you get binned again? Drunk and disorderly?