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Kilsby wrote:

USMCer wrote:But truth be told, McGregor didn't "go for" Mayweather, not like expected.

McGregor was measured. He jabbed. He moved his feet. He landed one-two's. (He rabbit-punched, which was B.S.). He probed. He countered. He landed upppercuts. But he didn't "go for" Mayweather, he never went full bore.

Why not??

This is the guy who he said he would walk through mayweather in one round.
With his little spindly arms and his little small head - what happened?
Because for me - reality kicked in once the bell went!

Like I said above,
"I think he thought he would be going all 12 rounds, so he never went all out... And maybe he didn't, cuz its Floyd Mayweather, and he'd be countered, etc... but ultimately he just never completely opened up, or went all out."

P.S.
Pre-fight hype is just that.

Kilsby wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

Eh?

Kilsby is retarded, don't mind him.

C'mon Saad.....offer a bit of reality to the conversation. I know you post quite a bit on here and are a bit controversial but c'mon - take the McGregor fan boy spectacles off

I'm a Nate Diaz fan, sweetheart.

USMCer wrote:

Kilsby wrote:

USMCer wrote:But truth be told, McGregor didn't "go for" Mayweather, not like expected.

McGregor was measured. He jabbed. He moved his feet. He landed one-two's. (He rabbit-punched, which was B.S.). He probed. He countered. He landed upppercuts. But he didn't "go for" Mayweather, he never went full bore.

Why not??

This is the guy who he said he would walk through mayweather in one round.
With his little spindly arms and his little small head - what happened?
Because for me - reality kicked in once the bell went!

Like I said above,
"I think he thought he would be going all 12 rounds, so he never went all out... And maybe he didn't, cuz its Floyd Mayweather, and he'd be countered, etc... but ultimately he just never completely opened up, or went all out."

P.S.
Pre-fight hype is just that.

Ok, so he thought he was going 12 rounds so why was he blowing out his ass after 4 if he was allegedly pacing himself?

Kilsby wrote:Ok, so he thought he was going 12 rounds so why was he blowing out his ass after 4 if he was allegedly pacing himself?

Poor strategy.

Realistically, strategically, Conor's window was in the early rounds... but he let that window close.
In the 6th/7th he started to slow as Floyd came on. The 8th was close, but it was too little too late.

Conor's output...

Total Punches thrown
RDs 1-3 = 38.3 /RD
RDs 4-6 = 54.0 /RD
RDs 7-9 = 48.0 /RD

Power Punches thrown
RDs 1-3 = 28.7 /RD
RDs 4-6 = 42.0 /RD
RDs 7-9 = 37.0 /RD

His chance to catch lighting in a bottle was in the early rounds.
He didn't do it, poor strategy.

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USMCer wrote:

Kilsby wrote:Ok, so he thought he was going 12 rounds so why was he blowing out his ass after 4 if he was allegedly pacing himself?

Realistically, strategically, Conor's window was in the early rounds... but he let it close.
In the 6th/7th he started to slow as Floyd came on. The 8th was close, but it was too little too late.

Conor's output...

Total Punches thrown
RDs 1-3 = 38.3 /RD
RDs 4-6 = 54.0 /RD
RDs 7-9 = 48.0 /RD

Power Punches thrown
RDs 1-3 = 28.7 /RD
RDs 4-6 = 42.0 /RD
RDs 7-9 = 37.0 /RD

Did CompuBox count them comically weak Hong Kong Phooey style Karate chops that Conor threw amongst their punch total?

If Conor really did "land" 111 punches, then does that mean that Mayweather has a granit chin, because it seemed as though he was able to walk through them like they were merely slow falling feathers.

Enlightened-One wrote:

USMCer wrote:

Kilsby wrote:Ok, so he thought he was going 12 rounds so why was he blowing out his ass after 4 if he was allegedly pacing himself?

Realistically, strategically, Conor's window was in the early rounds... but he let it close.
In the 6th/7th he started to slow as Floyd came on. The 8th was close, but it was too little too late.

Conor's output...

Total Punches thrown
RDs 1-3 = 38.3 /RD
RDs 4-6 = 54.0 /RD
RDs 7-9 = 48.0 /RD

Power Punches thrown
RDs 1-3 = 28.7 /RD
RDs 4-6 = 42.0 /RD
RDs 7-9 = 37.0 /RD

Did CompuBox count them comically weak Hong Kong Phooey style Karate chops that Conor threw amongst their punch total?

If Conor really did "land" 111 punches, then does that mean that Mayweather has a granit chin, because it seemed as though he was able to walk through them like they were merely slow falling feathers.

Uh, I think that's been long established, yes, Mayweather does have a solid chin/core.

Maidana1 landed 221
Maidana2 landed 128
Canelo landed 117
McGreogr landed 111
Cotto landed 105
Mosely landed 92
Pacquiao landed 81

I love the fact that we done one on the MMA.
But at the same time I also know most of the MMA fans are Boxing fans so it's not a full on bragging session really is it, we are arguing amongst ourselves.

All the bullsh_t aside.

McGregor could turn into a pro boxer if he wanted to, he has enough to pursue a career based off of name recognition alone.
Will he ?
We are in different times now and the fight fan has changed, the mere acceptance of what happened on Saturday showed how open people are to new ideas.
Luckily for us the fight passed as being decent that was very important, forget the winner for a second it's the fact that they both showed up to box and give it a valiant effort ... it wasn't a comical fight they meant business.

Come on did you guys really mention compubox on a boxing forum? GTFOH with that bullshite. Compubox is not to be mentioned on a so called serious boxing forum if you want to be taken serious.
BTW McGregor only deserves respect for 2 things. 1) he got in the ring with a future hall of famer and went almost 10 rounds. 2) He pulled off the biggest con job since Donald Trump and got around $100 million by talking so much bull crap that people really believed he had a chance and bought the PPV making him extremely rich, so rich he never has to get in a cage / ring again. This is the amazing part considering he was on the dole just 4-5 years ago.

JMac wrote:Come on did you guys really mention compubox on a boxing forum? GTFOH with that bullshite. Compubox is not to be mentioned on a so called serious boxing forum if you want to be taken serious.
BTW McGregor only deserves respect for 2 things. 1) he got in the ring with a future hall of famer and went almost 10 rounds. 2) He pulled off the biggest con job since Donald Trump and got around $100 million by talking so much bull crap that people really believed he had a chance and bought the PPV making him extremely rich, so rich he never has to get in a cage / ring again. This is the amazing part considering he was on the dole just 4-5 years ago.

I wouldn't call it a con job. He went in there and tried to beat Mayweather, he just wasn't good enough, as we expected. I can't fault him personally for that and do respect what he did, but his decision to box Floyd from the off surprised me. He never had a chance to outbox Floyd.

Covfefe wrote:

JMac wrote:Come on did you guys really mention compubox on a boxing forum? GTFOH with that bullshite. Compubox is not to be mentioned on a so called serious boxing forum if you want to be taken serious.
BTW McGregor only deserves respect for 2 things. 1) he got in the ring with a future hall of famer and went almost 10 rounds. 2) He pulled off the biggest con job since Donald Trump and got around $100 million by talking so much bull crap that people really believed he had a chance and bought the PPV making him extremely rich, so rich he never has to get in a cage / ring again. This is the amazing part considering he was on the dole just 4-5 years ago.

I wouldn't call it a con job. He went in there and tried to beat Mayweather, he just wasn't good enough, as we expected. I can't fault him personally for that and do respect what he did, but his decision to box Floyd from the off surprised me. He never had a chance to outbox Floyd.

Change the names of the two fighters....would any other 2 fighters, one with a 0-0 record be allowed to box a 49-0 fighter in any other place in the world ? Hell no. McG pulled the con with his talk making people think a cage fighter has a chance with a boxer in the ring especially with the records of the two. No one would believe Mayweather would win in a cage and that would never have generated that kind of money, well maybe only so people could see Mayweather get his ass kicked.

Conner was good. Definitly deserves respect.

JMac wrote:

Covfefe wrote:

JMac wrote:Come on did you guys really mention compubox on a boxing forum? GTFOH with that bullshite. Compubox is not to be mentioned on a so called serious boxing forum if you want to be taken serious.
BTW McGregor only deserves respect for 2 things. 1) he got in the ring with a future hall of famer and went almost 10 rounds. 2) He pulled off the biggest con job since Donald Trump and got around $100 million by talking so much bull crap that people really believed he had a chance and bought the PPV making him extremely rich, so rich he never has to get in a cage / ring again. This is the amazing part considering he was on the dole just 4-5 years ago.

I wouldn't call it a con job. He went in there and tried to beat Mayweather, he just wasn't good enough, as we expected. I can't fault him personally for that and do respect what he did, but his decision to box Floyd from the off surprised me. He never had a chance to outbox Floyd.

Change the names of the two fighters....would any other 2 fighters, one with a 0-0 record be allowed to box a 49-0 fighter in any other place in the world ? Hell no. McG pulled the con with his talk making people think a cage fighter has a chance with a boxer in the ring especially with the records of the two. No one would believe Mayweather would win in a cage and that would never have generated that kind of money, well maybe only so people could see Mayweather get his ass kicked.

But most 0-0 boxers haven't proven their ability in the way McGregor has, he isn't some 0-0 novice that's a total unknown quantity. His ability to take shots etc is a known quanitity and he isn't just going to get splattered and potentially hurt in there. Fighters like Lomachenko and Rigondioux have leaped over the usual levels themselves.

Covfefe wrote:

JMac wrote:

Covfefe wrote:
I wouldn't call it a con job. He went in there and tried to beat Mayweather, he just wasn't good enough, as we expected. I can't fault him personally for that and do respect what he did, but his decision to box Floyd from the off surprised me. He never had a chance to outbox Floyd.

Change the names of the two fighters....would any other 2 fighters, one with a 0-0 record be allowed to box a 49-0 fighter in any other place in the world ? Hell no. McG pulled the con with his talk making people think a cage fighter has a chance with a boxer in the ring especially with the records of the two. No one would believe Mayweather would win in a cage and that would never have generated that kind of money, well maybe only so people could see Mayweather get his ass kicked.

But most 0-0 boxers haven't proven their ability in the way McGregor has, he isn't some 0-0 novice that's a total unknown quantity. His ability to take shots etc is a known quanitity and he isn't just going to get splattered and potentially hurt in there. Fighters like Lomachenko and Rigondioux have leaped over the usual levels themselves.

He was a boxing novice. Its two different sports. Mayweather would be a complete novice in a cage and would never fight in one. McG called Mayweather out hoping he would fall for it looking for an easy win for #50 and him making crazy money. The more crazy he talked, the more money he knew he would earn.
As for Lomo and Rigo...thats apple and oranges compared to Floyd and Connor. You are talking about two 2 time Olympic gold medal winners with hundreds of amateur boxing matches. A lot different than cage fighting that the best skills to have are BJJ, wrestling and muy tai.

JMac wrote:

Covfefe wrote:

JMac wrote: Change the names of the two fighters....would any other 2 fighters, one with a 0-0 record be allowed to box a 49-0 fighter in any other place in the world ? Hell no. McG pulled the con with his talk making people think a cage fighter has a chance with a boxer in the ring especially with the records of the two. No one would believe Mayweather would win in a cage and that would never have generated that kind of money, well maybe only so people could see Mayweather get his ass kicked.

But most 0-0 boxers haven't proven their ability in the way McGregor has, he isn't some 0-0 novice that's a total unknown quantity. His ability to take shots etc is a known quanitity and he isn't just going to get splattered and potentially hurt in there. Fighters like Lomachenko and Rigondioux have leaped over the usual levels themselves.

He was a boxing novice. Its two different sports. Mayweather would be a complete novice in a cage and would never fight in one. McG called Mayweather out hoping he would fall for it looking for an easy win for #50 and him making crazy money. The more crazy he talked, the more money he knew he would earn.
As for Lomo and Rigo...thats apple and oranges compared to Floyd and Connor. You are talking about two 2 time Olympic gold medal winners with hundreds of amateur boxing matches. A lot different than cage fighting that the best skills to have are BJJ, wrestling and muy tai.

Similarly though they'd allow a 40 year old Mayweather to fight McGregor in an mma fight despite him being a novice.

You see my point though that they've not just let some random lad with no fighting experience fight him? He is a professional fighter, he's not some nobody who's just turned over, and he was fighting a 40 year old man who's never been a killer at these weights. I don't believe they'd have sanctioned him against a GGG.

JMac wrote: Change the names of the two fighters....would any other 2 fighters, one with a 0-0 record be allowed to box a 49-0 fighter in any other place in the world ? Hell no. McG pulled the con with his talk making people think a cage fighter has a chance with a boxer in the ring especially with the records of the two. No one would believe Mayweather would win in a cage and that would never have generated that kind of money, well maybe only so people could see Mayweather get his ass kicked.

Thailand

Conor's Boxing career, best case scenario.

Conor vs Paulie
Conor vs Nate Diaz
Conor vs Canelo
DONE.

USMCer wrote:Conor's Boxing career, best case scenario.

Conor vs Paulie
Conor vs Nate Diaz
Conor vs Canelo
DONE.

He's already had the best case scenario.

Fight 1 fight. Make more money in that 1 fight than most boxers that have ever lived made in their whole career.

Mission accomplished.

gilgamesh wrote:

USMCer wrote:Conor's Boxing career, best case scenario.

Conor vs Paulie
Conor vs Nate Diaz
Conor vs Canelo
DONE.

He's already had the best case scenario.

Fight 1 fight. Make more money in that 1 fight than most boxers that have ever lived made in their whole career.

Mission accomplished.

I agree, but can you imagine how much Cotto could make if he fought McGregor for his final fight?

RScarf1 wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

USMCer wrote:Conor's Boxing career, best case scenario.

Conor vs Paulie
Conor vs Nate Diaz
Conor vs Canelo
DONE.

He's already had the best case scenario.

Fight 1 fight. Make more money in that 1 fight than most boxers that have ever lived made in their whole career.

Mission accomplished.

I agree, but can you imagine how much Cotto could make if he fought McGregor for his final fight?

Wouldn't be anywhere near what Mayweather just made, but it'd draw some interest. Zero chance of it happening though.

Conor did much better than I thought, even though Floyd is clearly washed up. I'm not a McGregor fan but he did earn some respect from me that night.

Floyd WOULD'NT GIVE GGG 3KG''S ON HIM BUT GIVES CONNOR 9KG'S THERES YOUR ANSWER.A BIG NO HIS LUCKY FLOYD IS A LIGHT PUNCHING DEFENCIVE FIGHTER BECAUSE IF IT WAS GGG OR CANELO THEY'D BE STILL WAKENING CONNOR UP

MacGregor should keep competing in sports he is no good at

https://twitter.com/MichaelPhelps/statu ... 6012736513

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Floyd WOULD'NT GIVE GGG 3KG''S ON HIM BUT GIVES CONNOR 9KG'S THERES YOUR ANSWER.A BIG NO HIS LUCKY FLOYD IS A LIGHT PUNCHING DEFENCIVE FIGHTER BECAUSE IF IT WAS GGG OR CANELO THEY'D BE STILL WAKENING CONNOR UP

Leave that poor defenseless keyboard alone.

Tanzio wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Floyd WOULD'NT GIVE GGG 3KG''S ON HIM BUT GIVES CONNOR 9KG'S THERES YOUR ANSWER.A BIG NO HIS LUCKY FLOYD IS A LIGHT PUNCHING DEFENCIVE FIGHTER BECAUSE IF IT WAS GGG OR CANELO THEY'D BE STILL WAKENING CONNOR UP

Leave that poor defenseless keyboard alone.

gilgamesh wrote:

USMCer wrote:Conor's Boxing career, best case scenario.

Conor vs Paulie
Conor vs Nate Diaz
Conor vs Canelo
DONE.

He's already had the best case scenario.

Fight 1 fight. Make more money in that 1 fight than most boxers that have ever lived made in their whole career. Mission accomplished.

I won't argue that.
But as he goes forward, if he goes forward in Boxing... he can squeeze out a few more paydays before the bottom falls out.