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It is a good debut but the London heavyweight scene is pretty small and a lot of people spar each other or come across each other and im sure that they chose Lewison based on negative stuff they've heard. He lacks dedication, comes in out of shape and you have to question his stamina. Joyce has looked like a pretty limited pressure fighter. Based on what I've seen, it's going to be an action packed fight that won't go the distance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y942gqDKB3Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9ntquOyEt0

As it is a pretty decent debut fight and potentially dangerous, if Lewison beats Joyce do you think Joyce will pack it in after 1 fight, or carry on with limited heavyweights and build up some experience before jumping in deep again?

littlepug wrote:

tigermoth87 wrote:Very good debut opponent.

I can't see Joyce doing much at pro level though. Didn't he get KOd 3 times in the amateurs? Once against a bum.

I see him been another David Price. He'll do well at British level until he faces a fringe contender like Taken or Duhaupas and get KOd.

agree, saw him in the Olympics and couldn't see what all the fuss was about

agree, but the division sucks outside the best few. guys like eric molina weere seriously around top 15

mimmy123 wrote:As it is a pretty decent debut fight and potentially dangerous, if Lewison beats Joyce do you think Joyce will pack it in after 1 fight, or carry on with limited heavyweights and build up some experience before jumping in deep again?

If Joyce lost I think he'd go back to the Ams - now there seem to be very little hurdles now to climb over about Pro's returning to the Amateurs.

Hard to think of a tougher debut in a long time! Fair play to Hayemaker.

Although I give massive credit to Joyce for taking such a tricky debut fight, I think this fight could be a real stinker.

you can get 8/1 on Ian Lewison with some bookies.
Anybody having a punt?

TopGun wrote:Hard to think of a tougher debut in a long time! Fair play to Hayemaker.

Its a good fight, think it is superb match making - most times I've seen Lewison he goes into Sparring partner mentality.... I think Hayemaker have got it spot on... I've Joyce is serious about his pro career, he needs to be dispatching of Lewison without too much bother.

Fight 2 could easily be Sexton - which is what I would expect of someone of his experience and at his age. Then perhaps stick around the British title / European scene for a few fights before stepping into world level.

Lewison is decent, but hardly Floyd Patterson on your debut. Its a brilliant match up for someone with ambition - this is what Audley Harrison SHOULD have done and perhaps needed to do.

As I understand Hayemaker like to test their fighters quickly. I support this

Let's home he gets in shape and tests Joyce.
If Lewison isn't motivated enough with this notice and against an Olympic medalist he should Jack it in.
For me Lewison has been a bit of a wasted talent, he has more than Sexton and the Scotsman combined.

wesshaw1985 wrote:you can get 8/1 on Ian Lewison with some bookies.
Anybody having a punt?

What kinda nick is he in? Joyce always looked pretty easy to hit from what I saw of him in the ams.

Are debutants allowed to fight in a 10 rounder? Is there any rule on this or not? I thought maybe debutants had to start off in a 3 or 4 rounder but wasnt sure if this was a rule or not.

mimmy123 wrote:Are debutants allowed to fight in a 10 rounder? Is there any rule on this or not? I thought maybe debutants had to start off in a 3 or 4 rounder but wasnt sure if this was a rule or not.

No BBBofC rule on it. (PS - three rounders would only happen in Prizefighter - four rounds is the minimum for other fights). See http://www.bbbofc.com/content/rules-boxing-0 - reg 3.7 has the position. Only restriction used to be by age - minimum age for fighting 12 rounds (and therefore for the British title) was 20, and I think you had to be 19 to fight 10 rounds, but I haven't got the current rulebook in front of me so need to check. Given that Joe Joyce is 32, though, it's irrelevant to his situation. Hope that helps.

olij999 wrote:

mimmy123 wrote:Are debutants allowed to fight in a 10 rounder? Is there any rule on this or not? I thought maybe debutants had to start off in a 3 or 4 rounder but wasnt sure if this was a rule or not.

No BBBofC rule on it. (PS - three rounders would only happen in Prizefighter - four rounds is the minimum for other fights). See http://www.bbbofc.com/content/rules-boxing-0 - reg 3.7 has the position. Only restriction used to be by age - minimum age for fighting 12 rounds (and therefore for the British title) was 20, and I think you had to be 19 to fight 10 rounds, but I haven't got the current rulebook in front of me so need to check. Given that Joe Joyce is 32, though, it's irrelevant to his situation. Hope that helps.

Cleared it up

TopGun wrote:Hard to think of a tougher debut in a long time! Fair play to Hayemaker.

the guy that loma fought was better. at least probably a world fringe contender at the time. but this is probably best brit debut in long time. interesting. lewison fat and lazy but can swing the looping shots in with some power when he lands.

mimmy123 wrote:Are debutants allowed to fight in a 10 rounder? Is there any rule on this or not? I thought maybe debutants had to start off in a 3 or 4 rounder but wasnt sure if this was a rule or not.

Nope, no rules. i.e. Lomanchenko

Lewison still looks like he is carrying plenty

Weights?

Coco wrote:Let's home he gets in shape and tests Joyce.
If Lewison isn't motivated enough with this notice and against an Olympic medalist he should Jack it in.
For me Lewison has been a bit of a wasted talent, he has more than Sexton and the Scotsman combined.

Agree. Lewison weighs in with his t-shirt on and there's nothing about the weights. Lewison can't use the notice given as an excuse for not training this time around. If he's around 270 again then that's really poor form. Hoping someone will post up the weights. I'm quite skeptical at this point.

Exoddus wrote:

Coco wrote:Let's home he gets in shape and tests Joyce.
If Lewison isn't motivated enough with this notice and against an Olympic medalist he should Jack it in.
For me Lewison has been a bit of a wasted talent, he has more than Sexton and the Scotsman combined.

Agree. Lewison weighs in with his t-shirt on and there's nothing about the weights. Lewison can't use the notice given as an excuse for not training this time around. If he's around 270 again then that's really poor form. Hoping someone will post up the weights. I'm quite skeptical at this point.

Hes a disgrace

who is the white guy in that picture?

jamamb wrote:who is the white guy in that picture?

John Leslie

What are the fu cking weights?