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ValMar wrote:

crusader wrote:

Blodhemn wrote:Eh, the tourny winner will have serious clout in the all time ranking. We can do the fantasy thing of past legends all day. It's boring.

I agree. If Usyk wins I cant see how he's not in the cruiser ATG discussion.

Right now, after only 13 fights, he is #2 ATG CW (only Holy is above him).

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

crusader wrote:
I think he's generally rated quite highly here.

If anything, he's overrated here. I don't think he is, clearly a top 15 fighter in the world. But we have our JIP's and Valmar's that have him as a God.

Skillset - 10/10
Stamina - 10/10
Chin - 10/10
Cojones - 10/10
Punch power - 8/10
Am I wrong ?

Blodhemn wrote:

crusader wrote:

Blodhemn wrote:Eh, the tourny winner will have serious clout in the all time ranking. We can do the fantasy thing of past legends all day. It's boring.

I agree. If Usyk wins I cant see how he's not in the cruiser ATG discussion.

Whoever wins. This thing is stacked. Wonder if Huck is done though. He just doesn't have it for these skilled guys. Still tough as nails and can land with authority but can't do much versus a sustained attack.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
If anything, he's overrated here. I don't think he is, clearly a top 15 fighter in the world. But we have our JIP's and Valmar's that have him as a God.

Skillset - 10/10
Stamina - 10/10
Chin - 10/10
Cojones - 10/10
Punch power - 8/10
Am I wrong ?

Yes, you're brutally wrong.

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:
Skillset - 10/10
Stamina - 10/10
Chin - 10/10
Cojones - 10/10
Punch power - 8/10
Am I wrong ?

Yes, you're brutally wrong.

I suppose you are serious. What is wrong ?

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Yes, you're brutally wrong.

I suppose you are serious. What is wrong ?

I'm always serious. The one glaring issue is the 8/10 in power. He's more like a 5. The 10's across the board in the rest of the categories is a bit premature. You have him rated top 25 alltime in any weight class.

J-C wrote:

Blodhemn wrote:

crusader wrote:
I agree. If Usyk wins I cant see how he's not in the cruiser ATG discussion.

Whoever wins. This thing is stacked. Wonder if Huck is done though. He just doesn't have it for these skilled guys. Still tough as nails and can land with authority but can't do much versus a sustained attack.

Smart move on Usyk's part to choose Huck, a quick, skilled, southpaw would always be a horrible match up for him.

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:
I suppose you are serious. What is wrong ?

I'm always serious. The one glaring issue is the 8/10 in power. He's more like a 5. The 10's across the board in the rest of the categories is a bit premature. You have him rated top 25 alltime in any weight class.

I hope we'll be alive and healthy next year, and we'll see whether I am right or wrong.

lefty wrote:

ValMar wrote:

Jip wrote:Thank guys for the info. I will watch it and than comeback to the forum...see yall

Let us enjoy ! IMHO Usyk might be top 5 pfp, and Huck is an old, experienced lion, from Balkan.

Usyk is only 2 years younger than Huck. Huck has had a lot of wars though.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
I'm always serious. The one glaring issue is the 8/10 in power. He's more like a 5. The 10's across the board in the rest of the categories is a bit premature. You have him rated top 25 alltime in any weight class.

I hope we'll be alive and healthy next year, and we'll see whether I am right or wrong.

Huh? Next year we'll know that Usyk is the greatest fighter of all time if he wins this tourney?

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:
I hope we'll be alive and healthy next year, and we'll see whether I am right or wrong.

Huh? Next year we'll know that Usyk is the greatest fighter of all time if he wins this tourney?

I mean about HW......

boxing_rocks wrote:

lefty wrote:

ValMar wrote:
Let us enjoy ! IMHO Usyk might be top 5 pfp, and Huck is an old, experienced lion, from Balkan.

Usyk is only 2 years younger than Huck. Huck has had a lot of wars though.

Huck is so limited, and he was stopped by equally limited Polish guy.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Usyk is really good, but I'm not getting the p4p accolades that many are giving him. We'll see in the next year, Joshua will smoke him.

Jip wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Usyk is really good, but I'm not getting the p4p accolades that many are giving him. We'll see in the next year, Joshua will smoke him.

Why compare a heavyweight with a cruiserweight?

crusader wrote:I think he could outbox someone like Parker, but he'd be best to stay away from big hitters at the top.

He's got CW business first anyway

Jip wrote:Question? Is povetkin a powerful puncher?

Did pov tko huck?

Did usyk tko huck?

Who lacks power, or does nobody lack power and huck just has a good chin & stamina?

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

ValMar wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Huh? Next year we'll know that Usyk is the greatest fighter of all time if he wins this tourney?

I mean about HW......

Oh, got you, he can't beat Joshua. He could outbox him for a period until he gets smashed. He couldn't beat Wilder. Well, I shouldn't say couldn't, if he has the Heavyweight chin of Hagler he'd school Wilder. One thing I'll give you, he'd dominate Fury.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Jip wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Usyk is really good, but I'm not getting the p4p accolades that many are giving him. We'll see in the next year, Joshua will smoke him.

Why compare a heavyweight with a cruiserweight?

Huh? He's going to move up. Fair enough, Holyfield would beat him soundly at Cruiser.