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Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 29 Sep 2017, 06:02
by Spud
Haye is now with Ismael Salas. Whilst we will never see the best of Haye again, I truly believe Cuban Salas will make a difference.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 29 Sep 2017, 07:12
by Fearful_Freddie
Confirmed.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 29 Sep 2017, 08:15
by PredatorHayds
Haye will win this via KO if he's fit.

Being fit is a huge doubt with Haye but I'd fancy him to win this at 75% fitness.

TBH I lost close to £1500 on this backing Haye. Biggest loss betting wise of my life. I knew about the dodgy Achilles but thought he'd knock him out as long as it didn't snap :brick:

If Haye keeps function of his limbs for the fight he should win comfortably.

Expect beef before, and afterwards if Haye wins as they will likely try to sell us a trilogy.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 29 Sep 2017, 09:23
by Ruthless-RKO
PredatorHayds wrote:Haye will win this via KO if he's fit.

Being fit is a huge doubt with Haye but I'd fancy him to win this at 75% fitness.

TBH I lost close to £1500 on this backing Haye. Biggest loss betting wise of my life. I knew about the dodgy Achilles but thought he'd knock him out as long as it didn't snap :brick:

If Haye keeps function of his limbs for the fight he should win comfortably.

Expect beef before, and afterwards if Haye wins as they will likely try to sell us a trilogy.
I just hope Haye is fully fit and doesn't just come out swinging. He started landing clean as well before his achilles f*cked up.. he hit a nice right left, or left right, which ever way it was.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 29 Sep 2017, 11:09
by Andrew
Bellew will be unbearable if he wins this legitimately.

I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really want Haye to KO him early.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 29 Sep 2017, 11:22
by Emmseegee
The only outcome that would make me truly happy would be a double KO but failing that I hope Haye wins convincingly.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 29 Sep 2017, 12:29
by tony1234
Another WWE type build up to hype the PPV, can't be doing with that now

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 29 Sep 2017, 12:56
by deadpan
I find Haye an odd one. When he turned pro and was on BBC he was incredibly personable. He was refreshingly honest about the Mock knockdown and was gracious straight after the Thompson loss. He was easy to root for up to and including the Enzo fight. Then comes the graceless Klitschko behaviour, the Audley gang rape quote and his contemptible and contemptuous Tyson Fury activity. What happened to the charmer?

I think that his best approach would be to go on the charm offensive in the Bellew build up and let the Liverpool lip swear himself senseless.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 29 Sep 2017, 13:27
by Finn
PredatorHayds wrote:Haye will win this via KO if he's fit.

Being fit is a huge doubt with Haye but I'd fancy him to win this at 75% fitness.

TBH I lost close to £1500 on this backing Haye. Biggest loss betting wise of my life. I knew about the dodgy Achilles but thought he'd knock him out as long as it didn't snap :brick:

If Haye keeps function of his limbs for the fight he should win comfortably.

Expect beef before, and afterwards if Haye wins as they will likely try to sell us a trilogy.
Yeah made I don't usually bet big but I bucketed £560 on Haye last time out as I was so confident. I'm steering well clear this time.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 29 Sep 2017, 13:38
by littlepug
I think Bellew will repeat the trick, Haye hasn't looked good since the Chisora fight and quite frankly his body is fcuked, be very surprised if Haye can get through 12 rounds without getting injured

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 29 Sep 2017, 13:45
by dirk2686
deadpan wrote:I find Haye an odd one. When he turned pro and was on BBC he was incredibly personable. He was refreshingly honest about the Mock knockdown and was gracious straight after the Thompson loss. He was easy to root for up to and including the Enzo fight. Then comes the graceless Klitschko behaviour, the Audley gang rape quote and his contemptible and contemptuous Tyson Fury activity. What happened to the charmer?

I think that his best approach would be to go on the charm offensive in the Bellew build up and let the Liverpool lip swear himself senseless.
What was his Tyson Fury activity? He was injured wasn't he?

And to be fair, it was a believable injury given he took four years off.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 29 Sep 2017, 13:46
by dirk2686
littlepug wrote:I think Bellew will repeat the trick, Haye hasn't looked good since the Chisora fight and quite frankly his body is fcuked, be very surprised if Haye can get through 12 rounds without getting injured
I don't get the certainty that his body is done for. He's never had an Achilles issue before. It was his shoulder that caused problems for him after Chisora.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 29 Sep 2017, 13:53
by littlepug
dirk2686 wrote:
littlepug wrote:I think Bellew will repeat the trick, Haye hasn't looked good since the Chisora fight and quite frankly his body is fcuked, be very surprised if Haye can get through 12 rounds without getting injured
I don't get the certainty that his body is done for. He's never had an Achilles issue before. It was his shoulder that caused problems for him after Chisora.
Yeah get that but there always seems to be something wrong with him, plus the extra weight that he seems to carry these days has had a negative effect on his footwork, speed and general mobility, at least that's how I see it anyway

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 29 Sep 2017, 16:43
by rossij8
Haye was basically Stephen Hawking in the first fight without the intelligence

I expect him to box this time with more composure - without the wild swings

Haye KO or could be points

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 29 Sep 2017, 17:12
by Jackson328
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I like the fight on Sunday. Most of the big fights back in the day were on weekdays. I miss that.
Hagler/Leonard was a Monday wasn't it? Sunday fight is cool, good way to finish the weekend. Haye is despised by many true boxing fans but still revered by casual fans and we'll all tune in to watch because we know that if the old lion can still bite some arse it could be beautiful and who doesn't want to see Bellew get flattened by a genuine big puncher? This will be car crash tv and we know it!

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 29 Sep 2017, 17:31
by TheLeprechaun
I have no interest in this and won't be watching

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 30 Sep 2017, 04:02
by Muttley
lefty wrote:I couldn't give a flying poo about the fight. Haye looked like a washed up has been (pre injury) and Bellew struggled to knock out a one legged man. I be more than happy, if the fight never happened.
Spot on, exactly how I saw it

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 30 Sep 2017, 04:06
by Muttley
Syntax Error wrote:The build-up is going to be painful.

Bellew morphs into Nobby Nobbingham in pre-fight mode & he becomes unbearable.

Haye is more measured, but still equally annoying as he will talk as if he is still relevant or has done something of note in the HW division recently, then after all that, he'll either pull out injured or come into the ring with a severed arm try & claim some sort of moral victory! :brick: :witzend: :doh:
Your right on every count but the sad thing is, boxing has become a sideshow. Even more sad is that the fight will sell.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 30 Sep 2017, 04:47
by Spud
I cannot speak more highly of Haye's new trainer Ismael Salas who I spent a few weeks with a couple of years ago.

In the first fight Haye's timing was fucked - Salas will sort that out.

In addition the obvious which many of you have pointed out in different ways - Haye needs to get through the training camp injury free.

But, I keep thinking theres not a chance Haye can box as badly as he did in the first fight - my thinking is, if there is any improvement in Haye that should be enough for him to win.

After all that I spent a few years with Haye and I think he is a **** ... I want but dont think He will ... Bellew to win

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 30 Sep 2017, 06:08
by Boxerbeetle
Anyone paying PPV for this needs their head examined.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 30 Sep 2017, 06:15
by Exoddus
This will be the first PPV in ages where I have absolutely no interest in it.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 30 Sep 2017, 07:16
by wesshaw1985

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 30 Sep 2017, 09:28
by PredatorHayds
Exoddus wrote:This will be the first PPV in ages where I have absolutely no interest in it.
Don't worry you got the even more woeful Eubank-Yildirim and Groves-Cox fights inbetween.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 30 Sep 2017, 09:30
by PredatorHayds
Finn wrote:
PredatorHayds wrote:Haye will win this via KO if he's fit.

Being fit is a huge doubt with Haye but I'd fancy him to win this at 75% fitness.

TBH I lost close to £1500 on this backing Haye. Biggest loss betting wise of my life. I knew about the dodgy Achilles but thought he'd knock him out as long as it didn't snap :brick:

If Haye keeps function of his limbs for the fight he should win comfortably.

Expect beef before, and afterwards if Haye wins as they will likely try to sell us a trilogy.
Yeah made I don't usually bet big but I bucketed £560 on Haye last time out as I was so confident. I'm steering well clear this time.
I was convinced Haye would win even with injury.

With better odds I will end up chasing and putting money on Haye.

Managed to claw a lot of the money back, but still down year to date.

Salas coaching Haye now is a huge positive IMO.

Re: Tony Bellew vs. David Haye - December 17th 2017

Posted: 30 Sep 2017, 09:56
by Boxerbeetle
PredatorHayds wrote:
Exoddus wrote:This will be the first PPV in ages where I have absolutely no interest in it.
Don't worry you got the even more woeful Eubank-Yildirim and Groves-Cox fights inbetween.
Out of all those, Groves v Cox is by far the most interesting to me. Not that I’ll be buying any of them.