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dagilechia wrote:

apollo creed wrote:

dagilechia wrote:now Wilder can say ''I wanted to fight Ortiz, but look, he is a cheater'' it sounds better than just avoiding him + a dangerous opponent is done forever

Wilder will go down in the history of boxing as the fighter who defeated his toughest opponents before the contract was signed.

ATG Deontay Wilder

It's amazing that he's had the run he's had, and somehow there have STILL been 2 Worse Heavyweight Titleholders during this time than him. It's truly amazing. Truly a sh*t age of Heavyweights. S

Some of the worst there's ever been fight right now.

Wilder is the most efficient anti-doping agency in boxing history, he should open DWADA (Deontay Wilder anti-doping agency) and cooperate with WBC instead of boxing.

There was a significant physical change with Wilder from the time he was an amateur in his 20s to just a couple years later. His upperbody is quite muscled now and much bulkier than it was even in his mid-20s, and far far bulker than when he turned pro at 23. Doesnt mean PEDS, but you can point to a sizable transformation and addition of muscle for him too.

x2x wrote:What I want to know is why are fighters - foreign fighters and fighters without the "important connections" - acquiescing to being drug tested by some mob connected sheister doctor from Las Vegas, Nevada of all places? Do those %^$#@'s control the money bags in crooked boxing so thoroughly that they have to?

Everyone has their price. The testing should be done by WADA.

BitPlayer wrote:...
A skinny 6' 7" 23 year old gaining 20Ibs in 5 or 6 years really isn't comparible to Joshua or Povetkin

Joshua and Wilder both have body builds that suggest they might be bodybuilding drug users; Povetkin does not.

dagilechia wrote:Wilder is the most efficient anti-doping agency in boxing history, he should open DWADA (Deontay Wilder anti-doping agency) and cooperate with WBC instead of boxing.

BSADA - Bum Squad Anti-Doping Agency (we like bums)

x2x wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:...
A skinny 6' 7" 23 year old gaining 20Ibs in 5 or 6 years really isn't comparible to Joshua or Povetkin

Joshua and Wilder both have body builds that suggest they might be bodybuilding drug users; Povetkin does not.

Ortiz and Povetkin had normal-sized physiques as HW's.

ya lateef kayode runs vada too

cus a guy who used for that shitt quality of opponent would never use for his biggest fight right?

x2x wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:...
A skinny 6' 7" 23 year old gaining 20Ibs in 5 or 6 years really isn't comparible to Joshua or Povetkin

Joshua and Wilder both have body builds that suggest they might be bodybuilding drug users; Povetkin does not.

LMAO. Povetkin typically comes in heavier than Wilder and is 5 inchs shorter, he carries much more muscle. I mean that as well as him failing drug tests, plus he gained muscle definition, without losing weight in his mid 30s.

wilder has lots of muscle on his upper body. just that his legs are so skinny he surely loses serious poundage there.

It's naive to think any fighter has always been clean. Just not as naive as thinking you're going to get a top opponent on four weeks notice or think wilder is a powerful manipulator of the system that specializes in costing himself millions.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It's naive to think any fighter has always been clean. Just not as naive as thinking you're going to get a top opponent on four weeks notice or think wilder is a powerful manipulator of the system that specializes in costing himself millions.

This is Wilder. He wouldn't get a Top 10 opponent on 4 months notice.

gilgamesh wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It's naive to think any fighter has always been clean. Just not as naive as thinking you're going to get a top opponent on four weeks notice or think wilder is a powerful manipulator of the system that specializes in costing himself millions.

This is Wilder. He wouldn't get a Top 10 opponent on 4 months notice.

Enlightened-One wrote:

apollo creed wrote:How the f$#K everytime Wilder has to fight a solid opponent, that opponent fails the drug test ?? It's very fishy!

I knew something will go wrong with this fight and Wilder won't fight a legit opponent. So both Povetkin and Ortiz stacked their bodies with peds knowing they will have to be tested before fighting Wilder and screw their chance to become champions ? I don't buy it!

Stop with the conspiracy theory fúckíng búllshít nonsense! FFS!

NO conspiracy... Just follow the money... The money for VADA is in forcing 100's of athletes to take their "voluntary" tests.. That's why the "Clean Boxing Program" was invented.. It's a scam between VADA and the WBC.. And it's very funny they keep forcing more and more boxers to take their expensive tests.. And the guys who turn up dirty are foreign boxers from Australia, Eastern Europe, and Cuba.. They have 1/10th of a nanogram of Ostraine that nobody else can find??? They're dirty and the fight is canceled. Stiverne shows up with a massive amount of PED in his system??? He's fine.. The fight goes on because he didn't really mean it.. Latino boxers with the right connections have been totally excused for inadvertent usage.. Sound familiar like Floyd Mayweather???

https://youtu.be/Lk8p6UTtMPw

Poor Wilder. I'm sure he is 100% true and honest! Give this man a real bum! Give this man, Charles Martin!

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:It's naive to think any fighter has always been clean. Just not as naive as thinking you're going to get a top opponent on four weeks notice or think wilder is a powerful manipulator of the system that specializes in costing himself millions.

Most fighters ARE clean and would never think of cheating.. Why would you risk failing a test??? It makes no sense whatsoever.. The money for Wilder is retaining his title... He's not going to keep making easy millions if he loses his title to Ortiz.. He can claim he tried to fight the best and they were just cheaters whose teams were so stupid that they weren't wary of any inadvertent or accidental PED usage that might cancel the fight on a moment's notice.. I don't believe top world class athletes have teams who are so stupid and foolish -- that they don't cover all the bases to make sure the fight gets done.

He's easily the most victimized fighter in the game now.

You're an idiot.

He paid money to fight Ortiz, he could have just fought stiverne. It's whatever, kalan, Gilgamesh, assgotfucked, etc..will always blame wilder no matter how nonsensical it is. You're all pathetic.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He's easily the most victimized fighter in the game now.

The threads on here today are beyond boring.

The idea Wilder has the power to influence drug results.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He's easily the most victimized fighter in the game now.

He needs a bum asap!

he could just fight Stiverne and be blamed for it, he could fight Ortiz and then he got caught and say ''i tried my best but he is a cheater'' and fight Stiverne

Covfefe wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He's easily the most victimized fighter in the game now.

The threads on here today are beyond boring.

The idea Wilder has the power to influence drug results.

Or that he would want to in the first place. He's not even a known commodity. Pretty embarrassing, you'd think these guys would have a Klan meeting or something to go to.

Covfefe wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He's easily the most victimized fighter in the game now.

The threads on here today are beyond boring.

The idea Wilder has the power to influence drug results.

Wilder is just a hypejob boxing muppet. He is not the one who pull the strings!

dagilechia wrote:he could just fight Stiverne and be blamed for it, he could fight Ortiz and then he got caught and say ''i tried my best but he is a cheater'' and fight Stiverne

He has to fight stiverne or pay him more. So instead of just fighting stiverne he spent millions getting stiverne to step aside and setting up Ortiz so he could fight stiverne?