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Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 13 Oct 2017, 00:32
by TheGman
Horse wrote:1. (1.) James DeGale
2. (2.) Carl Frampton
3. (3.) Anthony Joshua
4. (4.) George Groves
5. (5.) Lee Selby
6. (13.) Billy Joe Saunders
7. (6.) Tyson Fury
8. (7.) Tony Bellew
9. (8.) Jamie McDonnell
10. (18.) Luke Campbell
11. (9.) Kell Brook
12. (10.) Terry Flanagan
13. (11.) Scott Quigg
14. (12.) Amir Khan
15. (14.) Khalid Yafai
16. (15.) Chris Eubank Jr.
17. (21.) Callum Smith
18. (16.) Anthony Crolla
19. (17.) Sam Eggington
20. (19.) Martin Murray
21. (20.) Ryan Burnett
22. (22.) Josh Warrington
23. (23.) Ricky Burns
24. (RE.) Paul Butler
25. (NE.) Rocky Fielding
26. (NE.) Hughie Fury
27. (24.) Bradley Skeete
28. (25.) Josh Taylor
29. (26.) Andrew Selby
30. (27.) Lee Haskins
Out - (28.) Nathan Cleverly
Out - (29.) Andy Lee (Irish)
Out - (30.) Dillian Whyte
What has amir khan done in the past 15 months? If you dont fight for 12 months boxrec usually drops your ranking unless your andre ward
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 13 Oct 2017, 00:35
by TheGman
How can anyone take this list seriously? Two inactive guys on it and hughie jumps in after a loss,its comical
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 13 Oct 2017, 16:29
by stujones
thechump wrote:How can anyone take this list seriously? Two inactive guys on it and hughie jumps in after a loss,its comical
To be fair, Khan is citing injuries as the main reason for his inactivity - I think his position is fairish - perhaps just one place above Crolla, he is probably a European Level win away (which will probably be his next fight) from being back in the mix against the very best.
Tyson Fury though should be omitted, the guy hasn't fought since god knows - is in no shape (physically or mentally) to fight and there must be a huge question mark about whether he will be allowed to fight under the BBBoC again.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 13 Oct 2017, 16:33
by KiwiRider
Boxrec now rank Eubank Jr above Groves on the current SMW rankings.
Not that I agree with it. Just saying
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 13 Oct 2017, 18:57
by Horse
ElJefe wrote:Luke put in a very good performance against a truly world class fighter, which is more than a lot of fighters between 10 and 20 can say, but ultimately he lost the fight so I think jumping up by 8 places is a bit too much.
Looking around it seems most people had Linares winning by a few rounds. I had thought the consensus had it closer, with some giving it to Campbell.
Maybe I gave Campbell too much credit for a competitive loss, but fighters like Brook, Khan, Flanagan etc. have been doing so little recently that I thought it was enough for him to overtake them.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 01:05
by TheGman
Horse wrote:ElJefe wrote:Luke put in a very good performance against a truly world class fighter, which is more than a lot of fighters between 10 and 20 can say, but ultimately he lost the fight so I think jumping up by 8 places is a bit too much.
Looking around it seems most people had Linares winning by a few rounds. I had thought the consensus had it closer, with some giving it to Campbell.
Maybe I gave Campbell too much credit for a competitive loss, but fighters like Brook, Khan, Flanagan etc. have been doing so little recently that I thought it was enough for him to overtake them.
Khan shouldnt even be in there,12+ months no fight organised he shouldnt even have a rank same with fury but you seem to keep adding them in your monthly rankings,whats up cant you think of anyone to replace them? Or are u just a nut hugger?
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 06:15
by Horse
brilo33 wrote:Josh Taylor,Ryan Burnett,callum smith very low for me ,no Jamie Conlan
or paddy barnes?
Josh Taylor's record is still rather shallow, with no wins above domestic level.
I didn't think beating Haskins was enough for Burnett to go any higher. If he beats Zhakiyanov then he'll go much higher next month.
Callum Smith doesn't really have any particularly high level wins. I don't think that he deserves to be any higher at this point.
Conlan's record is too weak for a place on the list. If he wins the IBF title next month then he will enter.
Paddy Barnes? He's 4-0 against journeymen.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 06:20
by Horse
BigDoofus wrote:Luke Campbell above Brook?
Brook has been stopped twice in a row, hasn't won in over 18 months and it's been over 3 years since his only world class win against Porter.
Brook is going to be moving down the rankings until he gets back in the ring.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 06:22
by Horse
ewenhay wrote:A pretty good list. Fury should be out though until he gets a licence. Campbell too high. Brook too low.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 06:25
by Stuarty
BJS bit high for me. He's looked utter bollocks and been inactive.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 06:26
by Horse
brilo33 wrote:a bit of ribbing for him to be honest ,but paddy has a WBO European Flyweight Title, conlan has a world title shot coming up, it is looking a little stale
The list is looking stale?
The bottom 10 of the list is very strong at the moment.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 06:28
by Horse
TheGoods wrote:Eggington being ranked above Josh Taylor is beyond parody.
Taylor's done hardly anything.
He arguably doesn't even deserve to be ranked.
You don't have a clue if you think it is ridiculous to have Eggington above Taylor.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 06:31
by Horse
gilgamesh wrote:All the fighters ranked 8 thru 30 on Horse's list should be insulted.
They should get some better results then.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 06:32
by Horse
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Why in the eff would Fury slip a spot?
Because Saunders overtook him after winning a fight.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 06:33
by KiwiRider
Come on Horse, chuck Ritson in there eh?
30th?
Ta
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 06:34
by Horse
jamamb wrote:fury has soon just 1 win in last 3 years. soon will be going on inactivity from last part of 2015 into 2018. looking obese. nothing scheduled. we arent talking about an active boxer. into the future wlad win will always be stronger than most wins guys on the list have. doesnt mean keeping him on forever.
He's moving down the list gradually and if British boxers weren't so unnecessarily inactive then he'd be moving down much faster.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 06:40
by Horse
BigDoofus wrote:Correct, but Campbell lost to Yvan Mendy (world no.22) and has never won at world level.
He wasn't knocked out though and both of those fights were close.
He has also been far more active than Brook in recent years.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 09:10
by TheGman
Horse wrote:brilo33 wrote:a bit of ribbing for him to be honest ,but paddy has a WBO European Flyweight Title, conlan has a world title shot coming up, it is looking a little stale
The list is looking stale?
The bottom 10 of the list is very strong at the moment.
Its that stale its gone green
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 09:12
by TheGman
Horse wrote:jamamb wrote:fury has soon just 1 win in last 3 years. soon will be going on inactivity from last part of 2015 into 2018. looking obese. nothing scheduled. we arent talking about an active boxer. into the future wlad win will always be stronger than most wins guys on the list have. doesnt mean keeping him on forever.
He's moving down the list gradually and if British boxers weren't so unnecessarily inactive then he'd be moving down much faster.
Shouldnt even be on the list,if you dont fight for 3 years why should you even be classed as an active boxer? Why not throw lennox lewis on the list aswell
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 09:18
by Horse
brian13 wrote:Billy Joe Saunders is not sixth at all. Too many fighters are better than him. Should be in the 21-30 range.
I strongly disagree.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 09:23
by Horse
Ossyrules wrote:Whose better than porter that khan fought and beat at 147?
This is only British. It’s not so deep that only 1 world class win drops you that badly. P4p is who is best and brook is within our top ten best. Simple as that
Brook's arguably still top 10, but he's not done a great deal in the 3+ years since getting the Porter win.
Brook is inactive and keeps losing, so until he gets his act together he should be dropping down people's rankings.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 10:12
by TheGman
Horse wrote:1. (1.) James DeGale
2. (2.) Carl Frampton
3. (3.) Anthony Joshua
4. (4.) George Groves
5. (5.) Lee Selby
6. (13.) Billy Joe Saunders
7. (6.) Tyson Fury
8. (7.) Tony Bellew
9. (8.) Jamie McDonnell
10. (18.) Luke Campbell
11. (9.) Kell Brook
12. (10.) Terry Flanagan
13. (11.) Scott Quigg
14. (12.) Amir Khan
15. (14.) Khalid Yafai
16. (15.) Chris Eubank Jr.
17. (21.) Callum Smith
18. (16.) Anthony Crolla
19. (17.) Sam Eggington
20. (19.) Martin Murray
21. (20.) Ryan Burnett
22. (22.) Josh Warrington
23. (23.) Ricky Burns
24. (RE.) Paul Butler
25. (NE.) Rocky Fielding
26. (NE.) Hughie Fury
27. (24.) Bradley Skeete
28. (25.) Josh Taylor
29. (26.) Andrew Selby
30. (27.) Lee Haskins
Out - (28.) Nathan Cleverly
Out - (29.) Andy Lee (Irish)
Out - (30.) Dillian Whyte
1. Carl Frampton
2.Anthiny Joshua
3. James Degale
4. George Groves
5. Chris Eubank JNR
6. Khalid Yafai
7. Lee Selby
8. Jamie McDonnel
9. Anthony Crolla
10. Billy Joe Saunders
I put JNR next to chris eubank incase you thought i meant chris snr cause you already have inactive boxers on your list you might of thought the flood gates had opened and you could add don cockell or randolf turpin
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 11:03
by Deno1986
thechump wrote:Horse wrote:jamamb wrote:fury has soon just 1 win in last 3 years. soon will be going on inactivity from last part of 2015 into 2018. looking obese. nothing scheduled. we arent talking about an active boxer. into the future wlad win will always be stronger than most wins guys on the list have. doesnt mean keeping him on forever.
He's moving down the list gradually and if British boxers weren't so unnecessarily inactive then he'd be moving down much faster.
Shouldnt even be on the list,if you dont fight for 3 years why should you even be classed as an active boxer? Why not throw lennox lewis on the list aswell
Fury last fought 23 months ago and not 3 years. I hate when people exaggerate and falsify facts to try prove a point.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 12:02
by jamamb
1 win in last 3 years come february. inactivity stretching from 2015-2018.
Re: British Top 30 P4P October 2017
Posted: 14 Oct 2017, 12:04
by SaadOffTheDeck
Deno1986 wrote:thechump wrote:Horse wrote:He's moving down the list gradually and if British boxers weren't so unnecessarily inactive then he'd be moving down much faster.
Shouldnt even be on the list,if you dont fight for 3 years why should you even be classed as an active boxer? Why not throw lennox lewis on the list aswell
Fury last fought 23 months ago and not 3 years. I hate when people exaggerate and falsify facts to try prove a point.
Nobody that fought 23 months ago should be in any rankings.