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Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 11:42
by gilgamesh
IKSRTFO wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
IKSRTFO wrote:Badou actually has a shot as he's pretty good at going to the body which seems to be Kovalev's kryptonite.
I don't know if Badou Jack would be allowed to go to the balls the way Ward did. Going to the balls is EVERY man's kryptonite.
Every shot wasn't a shot to the balls. Kovalev is just body soft.
Doesn't matter if EVERY shot wasn't a shot to the balls. The 3 finishing shots were all low blows.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 14:18
by jamamb
kov is a racist no doubt. think of how butthurt he must be that black guy beat him twice and stopped him

before the monkey shirt he had a blog where he talked about disliking all the 'sun burnt' ppl in flordia. also said that black guys in the gym cant control themselves and will pull guns if you get better of them in sparring. he generalized this. also called grover young and silakh niggers. if you were a black boxer, wouldnt you want to kick his ass too? hes not even subtle about his racism.

of course hes still very dangerous and i dont think jack is as good as ward, though he hits harder. he looks mixed like ward too, mabe kov will get flashbacks :lol:

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 14:35
by victor-romeo
jamamb wrote:kov is a racist no doubt. think of how butthurt he must be that black guy beat him twice and stopped him

before the monkey shirt he had a blog where he talked about disliking all the 'sun burnt' ppl in flordia. also said that black guys in the gym cant control themselves and will pull guns if you get better of them in sparring. he generalized this. also called grover young and silakh niggers. if you were a black boxer, wouldnt you want to kick his ass too? hes not even subtle about his racism.

of course hes still very dangerous and i dont think jack is as good as ward, though he hits harder. he looks mixed like ward too, mabe kov will get flashbacks :lol:
Did Kovalev do this writing in English or Russian?

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 14:37
by jamamb
russian, and quote about grover young in an interview was 'thoroughbred/purebred niggerr'. not at all just a one off with him.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 14:38
by victor-romeo
jamamb wrote:russian'

and quote about grover young in an interview was 'thoroughbred/purebred niggerr'
Are you able to read Russian?

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 14:39
by jamamb
no but it was translated by someone who does. they were kov fan but were shocked at his statments.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 14:39
by victor-romeo
jamamb wrote:no but it was translated by someone who does
ok..

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 14:40
by jamamb
hes just gotten away with it becasue of the 'oh hes russian and doesnt speak good english, things are differnt in russia' nonsense. but then why would he use someones race as part of an insult to them? like in 'purebred person'

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 14:41
by jamamb
hard to find a recent fighter more openly racist than him. i guess floyd did say obviously derogatory things about asians but kov is just over and over without restraint.

very good and exciting fighter but seems like a shithole as a person. doesnt seem like he cares what people think though.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 15:06
by boxing_rocks
jamamb wrote:no but it was translated by someone who does. they were kov fan but were shocked at his statments.
Russians don't use a word "niggerr". A word for blacks used by Russians is "negr" (direct analog of English "negro") which could be misinterpreted by an incompetent translator as "niggerr".

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 15:08
by jamamb
y would kov even mention race in an insulting context like that. he obviously didnt mean to be complimenting grover young.

and the monkey shirt

and disliking 'sun burnt people'

and more

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 15:15
by boxing_rocks
jamamb wrote:y would kov even mention race in an insulting context like that. he obviously didnt mean to be complimenting grover young.

and the monkey shirt

and disliking 'sun burnt people'

and more
Mentioning somebody's nationality or race when referring to people is what Russians do. Kovalev is about as racist as an average Russian.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 15:18
by jamamb
is 'sun burnt people' the russian term for non-whites? and what is exactly meant to be conveyed by 'purebred niggerr/negr' . and what about the monkey shirt. or generalized comment that black guys cant control themselves in the gym and will pull guns.

oh right, hes russian so he cant be racist. its all misunderstanding.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 15:27
by Blodhemn
jamamb wrote:hard to find a recent fighter more openly racist than him. i guess floyd did say obviously derogatory things about asians but kov is just over and over without restraint.

very good and exciting fighter but seems like a shithole as a person. doesnt seem like he cares what people think though.
Probably because people are so easily offended, and view things through their own bias, like you're proving. It's worthless to be super PC like most athletes are supposed to be. People will always find something to complain about.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 15:31
by jamamb
just saying it like it is. hes a racist. im too apathetic to really care all that much but its true.

but im sure if he said 'i hate all those lousy sun burnt ape niggerrs' it would just be a misunderstanding

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 15:40
by boxing_rocks
jamamb wrote:just saying it like it is. hes a racist.

but im sure if he said 'i hate all those lousy sun burnt ape niggerrs' it would just be a misunderstanding
He didn't say that.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 15:42
by boxing_rocks
jamamb wrote:is 'sun burnt people' the russian term for non-whites? and what is exactly meant to be conveyed by 'purebred niggerr/negr' . and what about the monkey shirt. or generalized comment that black guys cant control themselves in the gym and will pull guns.

oh right, hes russian so he cant be racist. its all misunderstanding.
Do you have a source where he said 'purebred niggerr/negr' ? Otherwise, it is a butthurt gossip.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 15:45
by jamamb
you can find it easily mate. just google it. if his blog is still up youll also see that its a racist goldmine. but i think his team had it pulled.

btw, jack aint the only fighter who thinks kov is racist. shumenov agrees as well and said so in an interview. if your balanced, its really hard to escape the truth of it.

y would i be butt hurt? kovalev never did anything to me. its not even a huge issue to me that hes racist, though i think racism is a bad thing, but its true no doubt, and im just commenting because jack raised the point. certainly, i dont see how you can fault a black man for feeling kov is racist.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 16:07
by Tony1244
Racist isn't a yes or no but a matter of degree.

I give Kovalev some slack here because he's an Eastern European boxer. It's not his job to know everything about the history of racism on other continents.

As I said if he was a serious racist, like a 10 out of 10, he wouldn't have black trainers.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 16:25
by greg
Tony1244 wrote:Racist isn't a yes or no but a matter of degree....
..interesting point,Tony..I've never thought of it this way..

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 16:25
by Blodhemn
jamamb wrote:just saying it like it is. hes a racist. im too apathetic to really care all that much but its true.

but im sure if he said 'i hate all those lousy sun burnt ape niggerrs' it would just be a misunderstanding
Don't care but distort what was said to exaggerate a point of view. Just as much part of the problem as anything.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 16:33
by boxing_rocks
jamamb wrote:you can find it easily mate. just google it. if his blog is still up youll also see that its a racist goldmine. but i think his team had it pulled.

btw, jack aint the only fighter who thinks kov is racist. shumenov agrees as well and said so in an interview. if your balanced, its really hard to escape the truth of it.

y would i be butt hurt? kovalev never did anything to me. its not even a huge issue to me that hes racist, though i think racism is a bad thing, but its true no doubt, and im just commenting because jack raised the point. certainly, i dont see how you can fault a black man for feeling kov is racist.
Why would I need to look for it. You base your claims on gossip instead of providing ANY source.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 16:35
by jamamb
you'd need to look for it because your the one who wants to see it smart guy

ive already read it and his personal blog he used to have up.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 16:39
by boxing_rocks
jamamb wrote:you'd need to look for it because your the one who wants to see it smart guy

ive already read it and his personal blog he used to have up.
You couldn't possibly read it, because you don't know Russian. All your "knowledge" is based on gossip.

Re: Badou Jack: I Want To Fight a Racist, a Scumbag - Maybe Kovalev

Posted: 23 Oct 2017, 16:41
by jamamb
it was translated by a russian speaker and you could also put it into various translating services. it was sergeys own blog. he had selfies and personal pictures on it too. he seems to like fishing.