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They are not stupid up at GB Boxing, they will have found some way to legitimise AJ using the facilities. Whether is is actually paid to come in as "world class sparring" for the GB podium squad or whether he pays them is irrelevant. It seems unfair to have an exclusive agreement, that prohibits non ex members of GB using the facilities. AJ also uses the physio, nutrionists and pyschologists there. It would be interesting to see the official line from GB and I am surprised no Boxing journalist has ever dared to uncover the truth.

It isn't just AJ though, campbell was using it regulary before he left McCracken (lets not pretend he wasn't his coach) for Rubio. Also Buatsi, Ogogo, Okolie, the list goes on spend tuesday to Friday in Sheffield. Its clear they are still in the system.

I can see how Warren feels its unfair.

The links between matchroom and sims lead back to GB, and it makes it all a little too in house.

TopGun wrote:

Tarquin Tarpaulin IV wrote:

3132DW wrote:The only person pissing and moaning about it is FW - that’s because hardly any of the Olympic Boxers signed with him.

Would he be saying that if Kelly/Buatsi were on BT - no he’s just a bitter twisted old git who hates anyone else being successful if he’s not benefitting.

FW signed swiped Daniel Dubois from under the noses of Team GB. DD having floored AJ in sparring so I doubt he's losing too much sleep over it

I wonder how Aj reacted to being floored by Dubois. It must dent his confidence dont you think?

I doubt it bothered him too much, he was put on the canvas first time he fought Whyte, but that didn't exactly scare him away from fighting him in the pros.

As to the OP, Joshua does what he wants when he wants, capiche?

Has it been noted that loads of sports venues/facilities receive government funding, boxing gyms included?

So unless we make a blanket rule that a professional athlete can not use any venue that has received any government funding then clearly there's no problem. Also, Joshua is a UK tax payer himself, it's not like he's living it up in Monaco and popping over to Sheffield to train.

A lot of the complaints seem to be along the lines of "It's not fair" - well unfortunately, life isn't fair. If you're the top dog, you get access to the best facilities, trainers etc. If you're the boss, you drive a Merc, if you clean the bogs you'll be lucky to afford a Corsa. Is anyone seriously saying that, in the same position, we all wouldn't do everything we possibly could to be in the best condition (illegal substances aside...)?

hell why even ban those substances?

Don't see too much issue tbh

I think if any of you visited the gym, you wouldn't be so bothered, it's hardly some high tech super gym. It's a glorified leisure centre with a running track, full of overweight middle aged men like me.

adamwillan wrote:I think if any of you visited the gym, you wouldn't be so bothered, it's hardly some high tech super gym. It's a glorified leisure centre with a running track, full of overweight middle aged men like me.

do u actually see the boxers training or is that private area

dbf wrote:They are not stupid up at GB Boxing, they will have found some way to legitimise AJ using the facilities. Whether is is actually paid to come in as "world class sparring" for the GB podium squad or whether he pays them is irrelevant. It seems unfair to have an exclusive agreement, that prohibits non ex members of GB using the facilities. AJ also uses the physio, nutrionists and pyschologists there. It would be interesting to see the official line from GB and I am surprised no Boxing journalist has ever dared to uncover the truth.

It isn't just AJ though, campbell was using it regulary before he left McCracken (lets not pretend he wasn't his coach) for Rubio. Also Buatsi, Ogogo, Okolie, the list goes on spend tuesday to Friday in Sheffield. Its clear they are still in the system.

I can see how Warren feels its unfair.

The links between matchroom and sims lead back to GB, and it makes it all a little too in house.

Luke has always had Mick Bromby from Hull St Pauls doing most of the work.

End of the day, nobody tells the heavyweight champion what he can and can’t do. Surely that’s one of the by products of being the heavyweight champ? Do whatever the fvck you want to

lillywhite14 wrote:End of the day, nobody tells the heavyweight champion what he can and can’t do. Surely that’s one of the by products of being the heavyweight champ? Do whatever the fvck you want to

That attitude never served Fury well. I think he took it a bit too literally.

adamwillan wrote:I think if any of you visited the gym, you wouldn't be so bothered, it's hardly some high tech super gym. It's a glorified leisure centre with a running track, full of overweight middle aged men like me.

You won't see this lot at the local leisure centre!


PERFORMANCE TEAM
GB Boxing’s Performance Team is led by Rob McCracken MBE who was appointed Performance Director in November 2009 and has responsibility for all aspects of performance and the success of the Podium and Podium Potential squads.
Rob leads a team of seven full-time coaches, more than 10 part-time coaches and a host of performance staff that are responsible for specific aspects of the World Class Performance Programme (WCPP) such as nutrition, coach development and identifying, recruiting and developing new talent. Former Olympic bronze medallist, Richie Woodhall, also works with the Podium Squad as a coaching consultant for two-days per week.
The Performance team is supported by a number of sport science and medical practitioners from the English Institute of Sport (EIS) that are contracted to work with GB Boxing and are embedded into the team and work daily with the boxers and coaches. These include a Team Doctor and practitioners in a range of specialities including Physiotherapy, Physiology, Strength & Conditioning, Performance Psychology, Performance Analysis and Performance Lifestyle. The EIS is the UK’s leading provider of sport science and medical services to elite sport and works with over 30 Olympic and Paralympic sports.
Performance Director
Rob McCracken, Performance Director
Full-time coaches
Dave Alloway, World Class Performance Coach
Lee Pullen, World Class Performance Coach
Paul Walmsley, World Class Performance Coach
Bob Dillon, World Class Performance Coach
Mark Geraghty, World Class Performance Coach
Gary Hale, World Class Performance Coach
Tony Davies, World Class Performance Coach
Performance staff
Robert Gibson, Performance Pathway Manager
Rebecca Edginton, Elite Performance Manager
Chris Porter, Coach Development Manager
Richie Woodhall, Consultant Coach
Sport science and sport medicine staff
Mark Ellison, Performance Nutritionist
Mark Campbell, Senior Strength & Conditioning Coach
Chris Connelly, Senior Performance Analyst
Ian Gatt, Senior Physiotherapist
James Hairsine, Strength & Conditioning Coach
Dr Andrew Hogg, Physician
Dr Mike Loosemore, Lead Team Doctor
Kate Ludlam, Performance Psychologist
Jessica Smith, Performance Analyst
Laura Needham, Physiologist
Dr Rebecca Robinson, Physician
Richard Smith, Performance Lifestyle Advisor
Sophie Smith-Moore, Physiotherapist
Ed Owen, Physiotherapist

dbf wrote:They are not stupid up at GB Boxing, they will have found some way to legitimise AJ using the facilities. Whether is is actually paid to come in as "world class sparring" for the GB podium squad or whether he pays them is irrelevant. It seems unfair to have an exclusive agreement, that prohibits non ex members of GB using the facilities. AJ also uses the physio, nutrionists and pyschologists there. It would be interesting to see the official line from GB and I am surprised no Boxing journalist has ever dared to uncover the truth.

It isn't just AJ though, campbell was using it regulary before he left McCracken (lets not pretend he wasn't his coach) for Rubio. Also Buatsi, Ogogo, Okolie, the list goes on spend tuesday to Friday in Sheffield. Its clear they are still in the system.

I can see how Warren feels its unfair.

The links between matchroom and sims lead back to GB, and it makes it all a little too in house.

Heard Dave Allen's Shed abc has a similar set up. Unless it's open to all pro boxers he clearly should not be allowed. If Joyce, Haye, dubois and fury turned up would they be allowed in? Roles models and haye has done more than Joshua as a pro and Fury's has a much better win. Would be great for the ams to have them around. Basically it should be open to everyone or no one.

jamamb wrote:

adamwillan wrote:I think if any of you visited the gym, you wouldn't be so bothered, it's hardly some high tech super gym. It's a glorified leisure centre with a running track, full of overweight middle aged men like me.

do u actually see the boxers training or is that private area

They have their own private boxing gym upstairs, but they use the indoor track and other areas of the gym with others so you see them around. You can tell when Joshua is in as he has a blinged up camouflaged Range rover. To be fair to him when I go before work he is already in the gym. Staying humble

Is it any different than Jess Ennis and others who train from the gym while earning good money from event winnings & private sponsorship deals etc.

None of us tax payers get a great deal from sport, we pay a fortune for it, not because it's good value, but as a nation we enjoy sporting success.

Oiky wrote:Don't see too much issue tbh

Exactly what i think. How is this thread still going? Some people need to get out more