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Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 14:21
by asdfjkl
happyNY18 wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 11:49
Stuarty wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 09:11
happyNY18 wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 08:18
Whyte is better than both Wilder and AJ.
You for real?
I am mate, i think Whyte is a more natural operator with a good engine, nice combos & improving all the time. Wilder & AJ are good for boxing, they're monster punching KO artists that have set the HW division back on fire - but outwith their punch power there's little to write home about for me, nor do i see either improving. Joshua is robotic, predictable & the muscle mass he is packing just isn't suited to go 12 hard rounds. Wilder is more unpredictable and has incredible range but he can't fight a lick on the inside, he looked a rank amatuer when Ortiz got close.
You do know that AJ already KOed him right?
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 15:24
by nitro5912
asdfjkl wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 14:21
happyNY18 wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 11:49
Stuarty wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 09:11
You for real?
I am mate, i think Whyte is a more natural operator with a good engine, nice combos & improving all the time. Wilder & AJ are good for boxing, they're monster punching KO artists that have set the HW division back on fire - but outwith their punch power there's little to write home about for me, nor do i see either improving. Joshua is robotic, predictable & the muscle mass he is packing just isn't suited to go 12 hard rounds. Wilder is more unpredictable and has incredible range but he can't fight a lick on the inside, he looked a rank amatuer when Ortiz got close.
You do know that AJ already KOed him right?
After outboxing him in 6 of the 7 rounds.
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 15:27
by Boxerbeetle
happyNY18 wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 08:18
Whyte is better than both Wilder and AJ.
Strong contender for worst post of the year.
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 16:15
by SAPFO
Wilder vs Whyte would build the AJ fight x 2. I dare say they could stick it on for £26.99. Wilder also need to catch fire in the USA before the big one.
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 20:51
by happyNY18
asdfjkl wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 14:21
happyNY18 wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 11:49
Stuarty wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 09:11
You for real?
I am mate, i think Whyte is a more natural operator with a good engine, nice combos & improving all the time. Wilder & AJ are good for boxing, they're monster punching KO artists that have set the HW division back on fire - but outwith their punch power there's little to write home about for me, nor do i see either improving. Joshua is robotic, predictable & the muscle mass he is packing just isn't suited to go 12 hard rounds. Wilder is more unpredictable and has incredible range but he can't fight a lick on the inside, he looked a rank amatuer when Ortiz got close.
You do know that AJ already KOed him right?
Yes, but it's easy to see Whyte has significantly improved, both technically and physically. Has AJ improved since then? I don't think so. Whyte had him on chicken legs in the first fight, if Whyte could take Joshua late I'm pretty certain would stop Joshua.
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 20:59
by jamamb
whyte did not look good at all vs del or helenius. and del had him hurt in a way del just doesnt hurt pretty much anyone else decent hes faced
was hurt again by helenius and very labouring
browne was a slow old punch bag
whytes solid but not elite
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 21:02
by jamamb
i wonder what ny would say about josh if he could only beat del by sd in a super tough fight where aj was almost stopped
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 22:58
by happyNY18
jamamb wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 20:59
whyte did not look good at all vs del or helenius. and del had him hurt in a way del just doesnt hurt pretty much anyone else decent hes faced
was hurt again by helenius and very labouring
browne was a slow old punch bag
whytes solid but not elite
Joshua is not elite. Stop acting like he's on the level of Lennox or something. If his punching power was the HW average i doubt he would win more than a couple of rounds vs Whyte. It's AJ's time for now, i suspect he'll make quick work of Parker, but Josh is a KO waiting to happen.
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 23:09
by jamamb
hes elite in todays division
he already f@cking splattered whyte. whyte won 1 round and aj was buzzed for like 5 seconds
del chisora almost stopped whyte and easily couldve won the decision, guys like pulev and kayybayel did better then whyte did. helenius was splattered by duhaupas but still hurt whyte and easily went the distance
whytes solid but beating up a glacial , inactive 38 year old punch bag doesnt show that hes better then aj and wilder
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 03:29
by keirw
Statistically it isn't a very good fight for Whyte as he does most of his best work from range, which is very much Wilder's domain. I can see Whyte winning rounds early before walking onto a bomb around round 6.
Chisora's style would be better suited to fighting Wilder, if he could get past the jab he would give Wilder nightmares.
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 04:29
by higgs88
Whyte beat a fighter whose 38 and fights in slow motion, i read nothing into this win. Wilder would absolutely destroy Whyte.
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 06:51
by danconnollyeire
keirw wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 03:29
Statistically it isn't a very good fight for Whyte as he does most of his best work from range, which is very much Wilder's domain. I can see Whyte winning rounds early before walking onto a bomb around round 6.
Chisora's style would be better suited to fighting Wilder, if he could get past the jab he would give Wilder nightmares.
A fit motivated Chisora would give WIlder nightmares... especially the one who fought Vitali. Wilders jab isn't great. Nowadays though, he gets taken out around 8
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 07:18
by happyNY18
jamamb wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 23:09
hes elite in todays division
he already f@cking splattered whyte. whyte won 1 round and aj was buzzed for like 5 seconds
del chisora almost stopped whyte and easily couldve won the decision, guys like pulev and kayybayel did better then whyte did. helenius was splattered by duhaupas but still hurt whyte and easily went the distance
whytes solid but beating up a glacial , inactive 38 year old punch bag doesnt show that hes better then aj and wilder
Elite... compared to the tomato cans he's been bowling over such as Cornish & Martin. Sure, he looked really elite vs them. But how elite is a man that would almost certainly have his head boxed off by Tyson Fury? I'm sick of the Joshua/Hearn hype train. Wilder too. If either of them were 'elite' they wouldn't be going life and death with men that are over 40 & well over the hill. Neither would win a second of a fight against true 'elite' fighters like Holyfield or Lennox. Disagree with me by all means but we'll see how the HW scene is shaping up in a few years, i much more fancy Whyte to last the pace than a robotic bodybuilder & windmilling basketball player.
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 08:10
by Stuarty
happyNY18 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 07:18
jamamb wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 23:09
hes elite in todays division
he already f@cking splattered whyte. whyte won 1 round and aj was buzzed for like 5 seconds
del chisora almost stopped whyte and easily couldve won the decision, guys like pulev and kayybayel did better then whyte did. helenius was splattered by duhaupas but still hurt whyte and easily went the distance
whytes solid but beating up a glacial , inactive 38 year old punch bag doesnt show that hes better then aj and wilder
Elite... compared to the tomato cans he's been bowling over such as Cornish & Martin. Sure, he looked really elite vs them. But how elite is a man that would almost certainly have his head boxed off by Tyson Fury? I'm sick of the Joshua/Hearn hype train. Wilder too. If either of them were 'elite' they wouldn't be going life and death with men that are over 40 & well over the hill. Neither would win a second of a fight against true 'elite' fighters like Holyfield or Lennox. Disagree with me by all means but we'll see how the HW scene is shaping up in a few years, i much more fancy Whyte to last the pace than a robotic bodybuilder & windmilling basketball player.
Hearn hypes Whyte up a fair amount as well. I thought Whyte looked much improved at the weekend but let's put things in to context, it was against an old, flabby,inactive, unmotivated Browne who came in the ring looking for like a piss head darts player from down the local rather than an elite sportsman fighting a world eliminator. Yeah Whyte looked good but a lot of that was down to what was infront of him. Not that I'm knocking him because I'm looking forward to seeing how he progresses after what was a career best showing to date but, apart from a short spell against AJ in a fight he lost and was broken up and KO'd badly, he's flattered to deceive until Saturday and hasn't merited the faith/hype/backing Hearn has shown in him until now. To say he's the more improved between himself and AJ since their fight is just absolutely ludicrous and you're either trolling or you've been burning the crack pipe at both ends over the weekend. Possibly one of the most ridiculous comments I've seen on here and that's saying something!
Bringing up guys from the past is absolutely irrelevant. We're here in 2018 and AJ and Wilder are by far the best in the division. Hopefully Fury gets back in the mix sooner rather than later. I've not seen anyone on here who has half a clue saying AJ is indestructible or unbeatable because he's clearly flawed but along with Wilder they're the best of a fairly mediocre/ordinary bunch.
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 10:11
by happyNY18
Stuarty wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 08:10
happyNY18 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 07:18
jamamb wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 23:09
hes elite in todays division
he already f@cking splattered whyte. whyte won 1 round and aj was buzzed for like 5 seconds
del chisora almost stopped whyte and easily couldve won the decision, guys like pulev and kayybayel did better then whyte did. helenius was splattered by duhaupas but still hurt whyte and easily went the distance
whytes solid but beating up a glacial , inactive 38 year old punch bag doesnt show that hes better then aj and wilder
Elite... compared to the tomato cans he's been bowling over such as Cornish & Martin. Sure, he looked really elite vs them. But how elite is a man that would almost certainly have his head boxed off by Tyson Fury? I'm sick of the Joshua/Hearn hype train. Wilder too. If either of them were 'elite' they wouldn't be going life and death with men that are over 40 & well over the hill. Neither would win a second of a fight against true 'elite' fighters like Holyfield or Lennox. Disagree with me by all means but we'll see how the HW scene is shaping up in a few years, i much more fancy Whyte to last the pace than a robotic bodybuilder & windmilling basketball player.
Hearn hypes Whyte up a fair amount as well. I thought Whyte looked much improved at the weekend but let's put things in to context, it was against an old, flabby,inactive, unmotivated Browne who came in the ring looking for like a piss head darts player from down the local rather than an elite sportsman fighting a world eliminator. Yeah Whyte looked good but a lot of that was down to what was infront of him. Not that I'm knocking him because I'm looking forward to seeing how he progresses after what was a career best showing to date but, apart from a short spell against AJ in a fight he lost and was broken up and KO'd badly, he's flattered to deceive until Saturday and hasn't merited the faith/hype/backing Hearn has shown in him until now. To say he's the more improved between himself and AJ since their fight is just absolutely ludicrous and you're either trolling or you've been burning the crack pipe at both ends over the weekend. Possibly one of the most ridiculous comments I've seen on here and that's saying something!
Bringing up guys from the past is absolutely irrelevant. We're here in 2018 and AJ and Wilder are by far the best in the division. Hopefully Fury gets back in the mix sooner rather than later. I've not seen anyone on here who has half a clue saying AJ is indestructible or unbeatable because he's clearly flawed but along with Wilder they're the best of a fairly mediocre/ordinary bunch.
Crack pipe? Think I'm from Greenock or something?
Let's also put yhings in perspective in relation to Whyte; Jamamb (who seems most offended that i think Whyte is better than his lord & saviour Joshua), has ranked Whyte 7th in the world and believes he's on a par with Rahman (just a 2 time HW champ....) - just by viewing his most recent posts. I'm not sure why it seems so absurd that one would reach the conclusion that Whyte is technically better - he's making waves at the top of the division despite the fact he doesn't possess anywhere near the kind of physical gifts Joshua has. I think Whyte has a better arsenal of punches he can pick, he's more unpredictable, throws better combos and fights to a better rythm.
Watch this space Stuarty, AJ will beat Parker but the only way is down from here, his physique is already become problematic. I guarentee it won't be long until the hype train derails & Whyte is ranking higher.
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 10:26
by Crease
Whyte showed that he has got good power against Browne, he bashed him up badly.
But I think Wilder would last first and Whyte wouldn't recover from it.
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 10:49
by chrisnew86
happyNY18 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 10:11
Stuarty wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 08:10
happyNY18 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 07:18
Elite... compared to the tomato cans he's been bowling over such as Cornish & Martin. Sure, he looked really elite vs them. But how elite is a man that would almost certainly have his head boxed off by Tyson Fury? I'm sick of the Joshua/Hearn hype train. Wilder too. If either of them were 'elite' they wouldn't be going life and death with men that are over 40 & well over the hill. Neither would win a second of a fight against true 'elite' fighters like Holyfield or Lennox. Disagree with me by all means but we'll see how the HW scene is shaping up in a few years, i much more fancy Whyte to last the pace than a robotic bodybuilder & windmilling basketball player.
Hearn hypes Whyte up a fair amount as well. I thought Whyte looked much improved at the weekend but let's put things in to context, it was against an old, flabby,inactive, unmotivated Browne who came in the ring looking for like a piss head darts player from down the local rather than an elite sportsman fighting a world eliminator. Yeah Whyte looked good but a lot of that was down to what was infront of him. Not that I'm knocking him because I'm looking forward to seeing how he progresses after what was a career best showing to date but, apart from a short spell against AJ in a fight he lost and was broken up and KO'd badly, he's flattered to deceive until Saturday and hasn't merited the faith/hype/backing Hearn has shown in him until now. To say he's the more improved between himself and AJ since their fight is just absolutely ludicrous and you're either trolling or you've been burning the crack pipe at both ends over the weekend. Possibly one of the most ridiculous comments I've seen on here and that's saying something!
Bringing up guys from the past is absolutely irrelevant. We're here in 2018 and AJ and Wilder are by far the best in the division. Hopefully Fury gets back in the mix sooner rather than later. I've not seen anyone on here who has half a clue saying AJ is indestructible or unbeatable because he's clearly flawed but along with Wilder they're the best of a fairly mediocre/ordinary bunch.
Crack pipe? Think I'm from Greenock or something?
Let's also put yhings in perspective in relation to Whyte; Jamamb (who seems most offended that i think Whyte is better than his lord & saviour Joshua), has ranked Whyte 7th in the world and believes he's on a par with Rahman (just a 2 time HW champ....) - just by viewing his most recent posts. I'm not sure why it seems so absurd that one would reach the conclusion that Whyte is technically better - he's making waves at the top of the division despite the fact he doesn't possess anywhere near the kind of physical gifts Joshua has. I think Whyte has a better arsenal of punches he can pick, he's more unpredictable, throws better combos and fights to a better rythm.
Watch this space Stuarty, AJ will beat Parker but the only way is down from here, his physique is already become problematic. I guarentee it won't be long until the hype train derails & Whyte is ranking higher.
I like Whyte, hes a solid HW who doesn't seem to fear anyone and is very entertaining but come on, he got smashed to bits by AJ............ Lost pretty much every round before being sent sprawling through the ropes.
Whyte hasn't improved much for my money?, before the weekend I thought he had peaked during round 2 of his fight with AJ.
The weekend was a good performance but Lucas Browne was a punchbag.
I found it funny how before the fight Dillian said " you ent no former world champion, no way, not in my mind " after the fight " ive just dealt with a former world champion in 6 rounds "

Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 10:53
by Stuarty
happyNY18 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 10:11
Stuarty wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 08:10
happyNY18 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 07:18
Elite... compared to the tomato cans he's been bowling over such as Cornish & Martin. Sure, he looked really elite vs them. But how elite is a man that would almost certainly have his head boxed off by Tyson Fury? I'm sick of the Joshua/Hearn hype train. Wilder too. If either of them were 'elite' they wouldn't be going life and death with men that are over 40 & well over the hill. Neither would win a second of a fight against true 'elite' fighters like Holyfield or Lennox. Disagree with me by all means but we'll see how the HW scene is shaping up in a few years, i much more fancy Whyte to last the pace than a robotic bodybuilder & windmilling basketball player.
Hearn hypes Whyte up a fair amount as well. I thought Whyte looked much improved at the weekend but let's put things in to context, it was against an old, flabby,inactive, unmotivated Browne who came in the ring looking for like a piss head darts player from down the local rather than an elite sportsman fighting a world eliminator. Yeah Whyte looked good but a lot of that was down to what was infront of him. Not that I'm knocking him because I'm looking forward to seeing how he progresses after what was a career best showing to date but, apart from a short spell against AJ in a fight he lost and was broken up and KO'd badly, he's flattered to deceive until Saturday and hasn't merited the faith/hype/backing Hearn has shown in him until now. To say he's the more improved between himself and AJ since their fight is just absolutely ludicrous and you're either trolling or you've been burning the crack pipe at both ends over the weekend. Possibly one of the most ridiculous comments I've seen on here and that's saying something!
Bringing up guys from the past is absolutely irrelevant. We're here in 2018 and AJ and Wilder are by far the best in the division. Hopefully Fury gets back in the mix sooner rather than later. I've not seen anyone on here who has half a clue saying AJ is indestructible or unbeatable because he's clearly flawed but along with Wilder they're the best of a fairly mediocre/ordinary bunch.
Crack pipe? Think I'm from Greenock or something?
Let's also put yhings in perspective in relation to Whyte; Jamamb (who seems most offended that i think Whyte is better than his lord & saviour Joshua), has ranked Whyte 7th in the world and believes he's on a par with Rahman (just a 2 time HW champ....) - just by viewing his most recent posts. I'm not sure why it seems so absurd that one would reach the conclusion that Whyte is technically better - he's making waves at the top of the division despite the fact he doesn't possess anywhere near the kind of physical gifts Joshua has. I think Whyte has a better arsenal of punches he can pick, he's more unpredictable, throws better combos and fights to a better rythm.
Watch this space Stuarty, AJ will beat Parker but the only way is down from here, his physique is already become problematic. I guarentee it won't be long until the hype train derails & Whyte is ranking higher.
If Whyte is technically better than AJ why did he lose all but one round before being broken up and taken out? AJs moved up a level from then whereas Whyte hasn't looked good apart from Saturday against a bloated Browne. Where was all this technical ability in his life and death struggle with DelBoy Chisora, which I thought he lost btw? At the moment Whyte is a level below the top guys and it's plain for most people with half a brain or any modicum of knowledge on the sport to see.
At the moment I don't think Whyte has the tools to deal with Wlad the way AJ did. He also doesn't beat Parker, Ortiz, Takam or Pulev and that's just going off the top of my head. I don't mind him and after Saturday I'm looking forward to seeing him again but you're going way over the score in your praise for him.
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 11:54
by happyNY18
Stuarty wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 10:53
happyNY18 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 10:11
Stuarty wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 08:10
Hearn hypes Whyte up a fair amount as well. I thought Whyte looked much improved at the weekend but let's put things in to context, it was against an old, flabby,inactive, unmotivated Browne who came in the ring looking for like a piss head darts player from down the local rather than an elite sportsman fighting a world eliminator. Yeah Whyte looked good but a lot of that was down to what was infront of him. Not that I'm knocking him because I'm looking forward to seeing how he progresses after what was a career best showing to date but, apart from a short spell against AJ in a fight he lost and was broken up and KO'd badly, he's flattered to deceive until Saturday and hasn't merited the faith/hype/backing Hearn has shown in him until now. To say he's the more improved between himself and AJ since their fight is just absolutely ludicrous and you're either trolling or you've been burning the crack pipe at both ends over the weekend. Possibly one of the most ridiculous comments I've seen on here and that's saying something!
Bringing up guys from the past is absolutely irrelevant. We're here in 2018 and AJ and Wilder are by far the best in the division. Hopefully Fury gets back in the mix sooner rather than later. I've not seen anyone on here who has half a clue saying AJ is indestructible or unbeatable because he's clearly flawed but along with Wilder they're the best of a fairly mediocre/ordinary bunch.
Crack pipe? Think I'm from Greenock or something?
Let's also put yhings in perspective in relation to Whyte; Jamamb (who seems most offended that i think Whyte is better than his lord & saviour Joshua), has ranked Whyte 7th in the world and believes he's on a par with Rahman (just a 2 time HW champ....) - just by viewing his most recent posts. I'm not sure why it seems so absurd that one would reach the conclusion that Whyte is technically better - he's making waves at the top of the division despite the fact he doesn't possess anywhere near the kind of physical gifts Joshua has. I think Whyte has a better arsenal of punches he can pick, he's more unpredictable, throws better combos and fights to a better rythm.
Watch this space Stuarty, AJ will beat Parker but the only way is down from here, his physique is already become problematic. I guarentee it won't be long until the hype train derails & Whyte is ranking higher.
If Whyte is technically better than AJ why did he lose all but one round before being broken up and taken out? AJs moved up a level from then whereas Whyte hasn't looked good apart from Saturday against a bloated Browne. Where was all this technical ability in his life and death struggle with DelBoy Chisora, which I thought he lost btw? At the moment Whyte is a level below the top guys and it's plain for most people with half a brain or any modicum of knowledge on the sport to see.
At the moment I don't think Whyte has the tools to deal with Wlad the way AJ did. He also doesn't beat Parker, Ortiz, Takam or Pulev and that's just going off the top of my head. I don't mind him and after Saturday I'm looking forward to seeing him again but you're going way over the score in your praise for him.
Ricky is just always ahead of the curve stuarty - watch Whyte kick on from here ;)

Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 14:22
by Stuarty
happyNY18 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 11:54
Stuarty wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 10:53
happyNY18 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 10:11
Crack pipe? Think I'm from Greenock or something?
Let's also put yhings in perspective in relation to Whyte; Jamamb (who seems most offended that i think Whyte is better than his lord & saviour Joshua), has ranked Whyte 7th in the world and believes he's on a par with Rahman (just a 2 time HW champ....) - just by viewing his most recent posts. I'm not sure why it seems so absurd that one would reach the conclusion that Whyte is technically better - he's making waves at the top of the division despite the fact he doesn't possess anywhere near the kind of physical gifts Joshua has. I think Whyte has a better arsenal of punches he can pick, he's more unpredictable, throws better combos and fights to a better rythm.
Watch this space Stuarty, AJ will beat Parker but the only way is down from here, his physique is already become problematic. I guarentee it won't be long until the hype train derails & Whyte is ranking higher.
If Whyte is technically better than AJ why did he lose all but one round before being broken up and taken out? AJs moved up a level from then whereas Whyte hasn't looked good apart from Saturday against a bloated Browne. Where was all this technical ability in his life and death struggle with DelBoy Chisora, which I thought he lost btw? At the moment Whyte is a level below the top guys and it's plain for most people with half a brain or any modicum of knowledge on the sport to see.
At the moment I don't think Whyte has the tools to deal with Wlad the way AJ did. He also doesn't beat Parker, Ortiz, Takam or Pulev and that's just going off the top of my head. I don't mind him and after Saturday I'm looking forward to seeing him again but you're going way over the score in your praise for him.
Ricky is just always ahead of the curve stuarty - watch Whyte kick on from here ;)
I hadn't realised that was you my friend

You should know better though mate
Hope you are well bro

Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 17:21
by jamamb
happyNY18 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 10:11
Stuarty wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 08:10
happyNY18 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 07:18
Elite... compared to the tomato cans he's been bowling over such as Cornish & Martin. Sure, he looked really elite vs them. But how elite is a man that would almost certainly have his head boxed off by Tyson Fury? I'm sick of the Joshua/Hearn hype train. Wilder too. If either of them were 'elite' they wouldn't be going life and death with men that are over 40 & well over the hill. Neither would win a second of a fight against true 'elite' fighters like Holyfield or Lennox. Disagree with me by all means but we'll see how the HW scene is shaping up in a few years, i much more fancy Whyte to last the pace than a robotic bodybuilder & windmilling basketball player.
Hearn hypes Whyte up a fair amount as well. I thought Whyte looked much improved at the weekend but let's put things in to context, it was against an old, flabby,inactive, unmotivated Browne who came in the ring looking for like a piss head darts player from down the local rather than an elite sportsman fighting a world eliminator. Yeah Whyte looked good but a lot of that was down to what was infront of him. Not that I'm knocking him because I'm looking forward to seeing how he progresses after what was a career best showing to date but, apart from a short spell against AJ in a fight he lost and was broken up and KO'd badly, he's flattered to deceive until Saturday and hasn't merited the faith/hype/backing Hearn has shown in him until now. To say he's the more improved between himself and AJ since their fight is just absolutely ludicrous and you're either trolling or you've been burning the crack pipe at both ends over the weekend. Possibly one of the most ridiculous comments I've seen on here and that's saying something!
Bringing up guys from the past is absolutely irrelevant. We're here in 2018 and AJ and Wilder are by far the best in the division. Hopefully Fury gets back in the mix sooner rather than later. I've not seen anyone on here who has half a clue saying AJ is indestructible or unbeatable because he's clearly flawed but along with Wilder they're the best of a fairly mediocre/ordinary bunch.
Crack pipe? Think I'm from Greenock or something?
Let's also put yhings in perspective in relation to Whyte; Jamamb (who seems most offended that i think Whyte is better than his lord & saviour Joshua), has ranked Whyte 7th in the world and believes he's on a par with Rahman (just a 2 time HW champ....) - just by viewing his most recent posts. I'm not sure why it seems so absurd that one would reach the conclusion that Whyte is technically better - he's making waves at the top of the division despite the fact he doesn't possess anywhere near the kind of physical gifts Joshua has. I think Whyte has a better arsenal of punches he can pick, he's more unpredictable, throws better combos and fights to a better rythm.
Watch this space Stuarty, AJ will beat Parker but the only way is down from here, his physique is already become problematic. I guarentee it won't be long until the hype train derails & Whyte is ranking higher.
jamamb also has aj at #1 and far above whyte, who he already brutally kod. you have to think more critically my friend. i could rank someone 1 and another person 2, and still have it as a sizable gap. top 10 lists are just one guy getting a number after the next, it doesnt say how much there is between each rank
and mid 2000s rahman was the rahman who was beating kali meehan but losing clearly to ruiz and maskaev.
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 18:35
by Boxing Writer
happyNY18 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 10:11
Stuarty wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 08:10
happyNY18 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 07:18
Elite... compared to the tomato cans he's been bowling over such as Cornish & Martin. Sure, he looked really elite vs them. But how elite is a man that would almost certainly have his head boxed off by Tyson Fury? I'm sick of the Joshua/Hearn hype train. Wilder too. If either of them were 'elite' they wouldn't be going life and death with men that are over 40 & well over the hill. Neither would win a second of a fight against true 'elite' fighters like Holyfield or Lennox. Disagree with me by all means but we'll see how the HW scene is shaping up in a few years, i much more fancy Whyte to last the pace than a robotic bodybuilder & windmilling basketball player.
Hearn hypes Whyte up a fair amount as well. I thought Whyte looked much improved at the weekend but let's put things in to context, it was against an old, flabby,inactive, unmotivated Browne who came in the ring looking for like a piss head darts player from down the local rather than an elite sportsman fighting a world eliminator. Yeah Whyte looked good but a lot of that was down to what was infront of him. Not that I'm knocking him because I'm looking forward to seeing how he progresses after what was a career best showing to date but, apart from a short spell against AJ in a fight he lost and was broken up and KO'd badly, he's flattered to deceive until Saturday and hasn't merited the faith/hype/backing Hearn has shown in him until now. To say he's the more improved between himself and AJ since their fight is just absolutely ludicrous and you're either trolling or you've been burning the crack pipe at both ends over the weekend. Possibly one of the most ridiculous comments I've seen on here and that's saying something!
Bringing up guys from the past is absolutely irrelevant. We're here in 2018 and AJ and Wilder are by far the best in the division. Hopefully Fury gets back in the mix sooner rather than later. I've not seen anyone on here who has half a clue saying AJ is indestructible or unbeatable because he's clearly flawed but along with Wilder they're the best of a fairly mediocre/ordinary bunch.
Crack pipe? Think I'm from Greenock or something?
Let's also put yhings in perspective in relation to Whyte; Jamamb (who seems most offended that i think Whyte is better than his lord & saviour Joshua), has ranked Whyte 7th in the world and believes he's on a par with Rahman (just a 2 time HW champ....) - just by viewing his most recent posts. I'm not sure why it seems so absurd that one would reach the conclusion that Whyte is technically better - he's making waves at the top of the division despite the fact he doesn't possess anywhere near the kind of physical gifts Joshua has. I think Whyte has a better arsenal of punches he can pick, he's more unpredictable, throws better combos and fights to a better rythm.
Watch this space Stuarty, AJ will beat Parker but the only way is down from here, his physique is already become problematic. I guarentee it won't be long until the hype train derails & Whyte is ranking higher.
How is Whyte technically better than AJ? Joshua has better jab, much better right hand, much better right uppercut. Combinations? Whyte almost always misses wildly with a right hand before landing the left hook while AJ showed efficient combination punching in most of his fights. Also Joshua has much, much better balance comparing to Whyte.
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 18:43
by oogiebe
Boxing Writer wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 18:35
happyNY18 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 10:11
Stuarty wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 08:10
Hearn hypes Whyte up a fair amount as well. I thought Whyte looked much improved at the weekend but let's put things in to context, it was against an old, flabby,inactive, unmotivated Browne who came in the ring looking for like a piss head darts player from down the local rather than an elite sportsman fighting a world eliminator. Yeah Whyte looked good but a lot of that was down to what was infront of him. Not that I'm knocking him because I'm looking forward to seeing how he progresses after what was a career best showing to date but, apart from a short spell against AJ in a fight he lost and was broken up and KO'd badly, he's flattered to deceive until Saturday and hasn't merited the faith/hype/backing Hearn has shown in him until now. To say he's the more improved between himself and AJ since their fight is just absolutely ludicrous and you're either trolling or you've been burning the crack pipe at both ends over the weekend. Possibly one of the most ridiculous comments I've seen on here and that's saying something!
Bringing up guys from the past is absolutely irrelevant. We're here in 2018 and AJ and Wilder are by far the best in the division. Hopefully Fury gets back in the mix sooner rather than later. I've not seen anyone on here who has half a clue saying AJ is indestructible or unbeatable because he's clearly flawed but along with Wilder they're the best of a fairly mediocre/ordinary bunch.
Crack pipe? Think I'm from Greenock or something?
Let's also put yhings in perspective in relation to Whyte; Jamamb (who seems most offended that i think Whyte is better than his lord & saviour Joshua), has ranked Whyte 7th in the world and believes he's on a par with Rahman (just a 2 time HW champ....) - just by viewing his most recent posts. I'm not sure why it seems so absurd that one would reach the conclusion that Whyte is technically better - he's making waves at the top of the division despite the fact he doesn't possess anywhere near the kind of physical gifts Joshua has. I think Whyte has a better arsenal of punches he can pick, he's more unpredictable, throws better combos and fights to a better rythm.
Watch this space Stuarty, AJ will beat Parker but the only way is down from here, his physique is already become problematic. I guarentee it won't be long until the hype train derails & Whyte is ranking higher.
How is Whyte technically better than AJ? Joshua has better jab, much better right hand, much better right uppercut. Combinations? Whyte almost always misses wildly with a right hand before landing the left hook while AJ showed efficient combination punching in most of his fights. Also Joshua has much, much better balance comparing to Whyte.
Wilder fan says, "I'm no big fan of AJ's, but truthfully, he is a waaaay more complete fighter than the rest of the top heavyweights technically. "
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 18:44
by oogiebe
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 15:27
happyNY18 wrote: ↑25 Mar 2018, 08:18
Whyte is better than both Wilder and AJ.
Strong contender for worst post of the year.

lmao!
Re: WHO WINS? Deontay Wilder vs. Dillian Whyte
Posted: 26 Mar 2018, 19:25
by happyNY18
oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 18:43
Boxing Writer wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 18:35
happyNY18 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2018, 10:11
Crack pipe? Think I'm from Greenock or something?
Let's also put yhings in perspective in relation to Whyte; Jamamb (who seems most offended that i think Whyte is better than his lord & saviour Joshua), has ranked Whyte 7th in the world and believes he's on a par with Rahman (just a 2 time HW champ....) - just by viewing his most recent posts. I'm not sure why it seems so absurd that one would reach the conclusion that Whyte is technically better - he's making waves at the top of the division despite the fact he doesn't possess anywhere near the kind of physical gifts Joshua has. I think Whyte has a better arsenal of punches he can pick, he's more unpredictable, throws better combos and fights to a better rythm.
Watch this space Stuarty, AJ will beat Parker but the only way is down from here, his physique is already become problematic. I guarentee it won't be long until the hype train derails & Whyte is ranking higher.
How is Whyte technically better than AJ? Joshua has better jab, much better right hand, much better right uppercut. Combinations? Whyte almost always misses wildly with a right hand before landing the left hook while AJ showed efficient combination punching in most of his fights. Also Joshua has much, much better balance comparing to Whyte.
Wilder fan says, "I'm no big fan of AJ's, but truthfully, he is a waaaay more complete fighter than the rest of the top heavyweights technically. "

he's nowhere near the boxing ability of Ortiz.