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SFW wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 07:53 Yes, despite all this magical muscle ( what is it 30-35lbs over his Olympic days weight lol) AJ still doesn't have the one punch power Wilder has. All the gossip girl back and forth about resume does not mean anything, weak sauce really. ONE punch at heavyweight can negate any amount of resume debate. AJ fans insecurity is hilarious though, but based on proper fear. They know Wilder is a far bigger threat than old man Klitschko, quoting his effing brother is cute but perhaps Vlad had no trouble at all hitting that big lug because (gasp) AJ isn't really the fighter he gets hyped as. His reflexes are slowing, feet are slowing, hands are dropping more often, he's struggling with stamina clearly, it's all that extra muscle he never needed. These are bad signs, mentally and physically. I don't think most people believe AJ is naturally anywhere close to 250lbs+, but since they support him his "methods" are overlooked. It would be foolish not to question it, he looks juiced out of his mind. Anyone honest would agree,he doesn't look natural at all. We can wait for the book to come out like what will happen with Marquez, but suspicions will likely be confirmed, the truth always comes out. That magic muscle will be his undoing, in the ring and out. Just a matter of time. He looks like a cartoon superhero. He looked anything but, not too long ago. Just a thought..

I do agree that wilder has the edge in absolute 1 punch power though

Joshua wouldlnt know where ever he was if wilder hit him a shot

And vice versa

But I have a feeling the gangly unpredictable wilder would catch Joshua first

@SFW : You do know do you, that in the run-up to fighting Takam including on the day of the fight, Joshua was tested a total of fourteen times by (I think it was said) four different drug testing agencies, including VADA and UKAD.

Joshua has been subject to random drug tests since becoming an amateur international. If he's on PEDs then clearly boxing is only the second most impressive of his talents.

Still, never let the facts get in the way of a good story, eh?

I've not seen anything from Wilder to suggest he's better than the Wlad who turned up against Joshua. Wlad's straight right is up there with most shots of the last 10-15 years as being powerful - he landed it as well as he had ever done, and some clean left hooks afterwards - it took Joshua three rounds to recover, but he did.

Joshua has good power and aggression - but maybe not the one punch power of Wilder. If they both met head on I'd back Joshua at this point I think - Wilder also has the ability to look absolutely terrible, and has done quite often to be honest. I'm not sure Joshua has ever really even lost rounds except some against Klitschko, which you'd expect in pure boxing terms, and I don't know how Wilder would cope with his aggression.

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Oiky wrote: ↑10 Nov 2017, 08:46 Joshua wouldlnt know where ever he was if wilder hit him a shot

And vice versa

But I have a feeling the gangly unpredictable wilder would catch Joshua first

Maybe you didn't see Wilder-Washington... Gerald landed tons of light punches for 4 rounds -- winning all those rounds.. All Wilder did was sit and wait for an opening on a guy with virtually no defense.. He tried occasional loaded right hands that curled round Washington's head, or missed him, or didn't land solidly -- but he was easily outboxed.. When Washington got hit in the 5th he had no frame of reference to call on because he never fought anyone who could box before.. He got up tried to defend ineptly against the onslaught of windmilling shots.. The Wilder friendly referee stopped it without a lot of justification.. Washington was stopped again in his latest fight against a very tubby 300-pound Jarrell Milller.

Maybe you didn't see Wilder-Duhaupas... Wilder got nailed with slow as sloth shiit jabs and inept overhand rights.. His right eye was swollen nearly shut.. Anybody who could hit would have tested his ability to take a punch.. Wilder hit Duhaupas with about 100 right hands right on the chin.. He couldn't knock him down and could barely move him for 11 rounds.. When Duahaupas fought the sharper punching Povetkin he was FLATTENED for 10 after running for 5 rounds. AP caught up with him in the 6th and crushed him with a left hook.

And maybe you didn't see Joshua-Whyte... AJ caught up with the running-for-his-life Whyte and smashed him unconscious with a single right uppercut, for Whyte's only loss -- so obviously his only KO stoppage...

Wilder is reluctant to fight Whyte... He only wants the massive money fight with AJ and doesn't want any risky fights... VADA was already in possession of the phony "positive banned substance test" for Ortiz when Wilder went through the sham of signing for the Ortiz fight... Both the Povetkin and Ortiz signings were frauds.

Didn’t have time to real whole tread but don’t think this has been posted. Issac Chamberlain sparred both, said Joshua power is like ‘hammer hands’ ‘Wilder is more explosive, like a sniper rifle’

It’s at about 4:20

https://youtu.be/BGQ9F3XNIws

It’s a good point from J-C

Power comes in all forms

Wlad had power from being a big athletic bloke who threw his right hand technically correct and timed well

Haye had power through speed. Opponents weren’t ready to take/block/ride the punch as its landing before you see it. On a pressure pad I’m certain Hayes power would be slightly lighter

Joshua is a big hulk who is kind of between the two

Foreman was clearly so heavy handed. He was a slow puncher so even if you were covering up and saw it coming in, it’s concussive bricks he’s clobbering with

Wilder swings from his hips, I’ve rarely seen a guy load up so hard. Also he punches from real angles so I’d argue that you don’t always see them till it’s too late

ya there was a great post on another forum from a guy who sparred tua, tyson, holyfield, wlad, lennox and talked about different types of power. think he actually said wlad hit the hardest!

also wilder does swing wildly but thats often once hes already hurt someone. he throws the right straighter when hes not going for a kill

I don't think there's enough difference in their power to even make it a subject to discuss. Whoever lands first in this fight wins it really is that simple, both bang hard and neither have a chin.

Whyte caught Joshua with a good shot which hurt him but didn't drop him. He recovered very quickly, He was dropped by a perfect shot right down the pipe but that was from Wladimir Klitschko. How many fighters could have survived being caught flush by a Klitschko Sunday punch?. Not only did he get up and have the presence of mind to avoid Wlad's attempts to finish him, but was able eventually to make a full recovery, recharge his batteries, and knock him out.

I wouldn't count Joshua's punch resistance as one of his best qualities but to say he hasn't got a chin is unfairly harsh.

The biggest talking point of that fight wasn't aj getting up, but why big clitorus didn't attempt to finish him.. a fat tired injured whyte made aj look like bambi on ice in the second round, if he wasn't fat and injured he would of stopped aj and this convo wouldn't exist.

In the know 85 wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 18:06 The biggest talking point of that fight wasn't aj getting up, but why big clitorus didn't attempt to finish him.. a fat tired injured whyte made aj look like bambi on ice in the second round, if he wasn't fat and injured he would of stopped aj and this convo wouldn't exist.

That's the craziest garbage I've ever read.. Bambi on ice is Amir Khan not Anthony Joshua.. AJ came right back at Whyte after he was tagged with 1 big shot.. How many big shots did Whyte land on Joshua??? How many big shots did Joshua land on Whyte??? AJ was beating Dillian to death.

Klitschko called on every trick he mastered in a 21-year pro career to finish Joshua off.. He jumped all over him.. AJ ducked the big swings, absorbed many brutal shots, and finessed many.. He outsmarted an ATG Heavyweight Champion -- though he had only 18 professional fights and 43 amateur fights.. How many fights did Klitschko have??? ... If Josh were on Wladimir's learning curve he would have been knocked out.

Kalan wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 22:58

In the know 85 wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 18:06 The biggest talking point of that fight wasn't aj getting up, but why big clitorus didn't attempt to finish him.. a fat tired injured whyte made aj look like bambi on ice in the second round, if he wasn't fat and injured he would of stopped aj and this convo wouldn't exist.

That's the craziest garbage I've ever read.. Bambi on ice is Amir Khan not Anthony Joshua.. AJ came right back at Whyte after he was tagged with 1 big shot.. How many big shots did Whyte land on Joshua??? How many big shots did Joshua land on Whyte??? AJ was beating Dillian to death.

Klitschko called on every trick he mastered in a 21-year pro career to finish Joshua off.. He jumped all over him.. AJ ducked the big swings, absorbed many brutal shots, and finessed many.. He outsmarted an ATG Heavyweight Champion -- though he had only 18 professional fights and 43 amateur fights.. How many fights did Klitschko have??? ... If Josh were on Wladimir's learning curve he would have been knocked out.

I think your so alone in that opinion, he done nothing to halt Joshua after he spangled him, klitschko was an old finished man who hadn't fought for 2 YEARS before fighting AJ.. bit of a casual news paper reading fan in my opinion. It won't be long at all before you have egg on your face cheering the AJ cash cow.. he'll get splattered sooner rather than later that's a dead cert.

In the know 85 wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 23:27

Kalan wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 22:58

In the know 85 wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 18:06 The biggest talking point of that fight wasn't aj getting up, but why big clitorus didn't attempt to finish him.. a fat tired injured whyte made aj look like bambi on ice in the second round, if he wasn't fat and injured he would of stopped aj and this convo wouldn't exist.

That's the craziest garbage I've ever read.. Bambi on ice is Amir Khan not Anthony Joshua.. AJ came right back at Whyte after he was tagged with 1 big shot.. How many big shots did Whyte land on Joshua??? How many big shots did Joshua land on Whyte??? AJ was beating Dillian to death.

Klitschko called on every trick he mastered in a 21-year pro career to finish Joshua off.. He jumped all over him.. AJ ducked the big swings, absorbed many brutal shots, and finessed many.. He outsmarted an ATG Heavyweight Champion -- though he had only 18 professional fights and 43 amateur fights.. How many fights did Klitschko have??? ... If Josh were on Wladimir's learning curve he would have been knocked out.

I think your so alone in that opinion, he done nothing to halt Joshua after he spangled him, klitschko was an old finished man who hadn't fought for 2 YEARS before fighting AJ.. bit of a casual news paper reading fan in my opinion. It won't be long at all before you have egg on your face cheering the AJ cash cow.. he'll get splattered sooner rather than later that's a dead cert.

You're full.. Klitschko had been training 15 months -- for the twice postponed Fury-Klitschko rematch and for Joshua.. You couldn't get in better shape than Klitschko and he proved it by taking horrific shots for 11 super intense rounds of an exciting ATG Heavyweight Title Fight.

Klitscho was down in the 5th.. He recovered and knocked AJ down in the 6th.. In the 6th and 7th round Klitschko tore AJ a new azshole trying to level him for the count.. Josh made it to the 8th and that was all she wrote.. He took over slowly and with more intensity by the round.

Who's going to do the splattering??? ... You're weird... AJ has knocked every opponent out... No other Heavyweight Champion ever did that... Funny, but Deontay has the same number of Heavyweight Championship Fights as Rocky Marciano -- and he still hasn't fought anyone.

In the know 85 wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 23:27

Kalan wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 22:58

In the know 85 wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 18:06 The biggest talking point of that fight wasn't aj getting up, but why big clitorus didn't attempt to finish him.. a fat tired injured whyte made aj look like bambi on ice in the second round, if he wasn't fat and injured he would of stopped aj and this convo wouldn't exist.

That's the craziest garbage I've ever read.. Bambi on ice is Amir Khan not Anthony Joshua.. AJ came right back at Whyte after he was tagged with 1 big shot.. How many big shots did Whyte land on Joshua??? How many big shots did Joshua land on Whyte??? AJ was beating Dillian to death.

Klitschko called on every trick he mastered in a 21-year pro career to finish Joshua off.. He jumped all over him.. AJ ducked the big swings, absorbed many brutal shots, and finessed many.. He outsmarted an ATG Heavyweight Champion -- though he had only 18 professional fights and 43 amateur fights.. How many fights did Klitschko have??? ... If Josh were on Wladimir's learning curve he would have been knocked out.

I think your so alone in that opinion, he done nothing to halt Joshua after he spangled him, klitschko was an old finished man who hadn't fought for 2 YEARS before fighting AJ.. bit of a casual news paper reading fan in my opinion. It won't be long at all before you have egg on your face cheering the AJ cash cow.. he'll get splattered sooner rather than later that's a dead cert.

I don’t often agree with Kalan but he is on the money about AJ v WKlit. Wlad put on a great performance in that fight and the young lion was forced to dig deep to overcome him.

Did you even watch that fight?

Kalan wrote: ↑13 Nov 2017, 21:44

In the know 85 wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 23:27

Kalan wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 22:58

That's the craziest garbage I've ever read.. Bambi on ice is Amir Khan not Anthony Joshua.. AJ came right back at Whyte after he was tagged with 1 big shot.. How many big shots did Whyte land on Joshua??? How many big shots did Joshua land on Whyte??? AJ was beating Dillian to death.

Klitschko called on every trick he mastered in a 21-year pro career to finish Joshua off.. He jumped all over him.. AJ ducked the big swings, absorbed many brutal shots, and finessed many.. He outsmarted an ATG Heavyweight Champion -- though he had only 18 professional fights and 43 amateur fights.. How many fights did Klitschko have??? ... If Josh were on Wladimir's learning curve he would have been knocked out.

I think your so alone in that opinion, he done nothing to halt Joshua after he spangled him, klitschko was an old finished man who hadn't fought for 2 YEARS before fighting AJ.. bit of a casual news paper reading fan in my opinion. It won't be long at all before you have egg on your face cheering the AJ cash cow.. he'll get splattered sooner rather than later that's a dead cert.

You're full.. Klitschko had been training 15 months -- for the twice postponed Fury-Klitschko rematch and for Joshua.. You couldn't get in better shape than Klitschko and he proved it by taking horrific shots for 11 super intense rounds of an exciting ATG Heavyweight Title Fight.

Klitscho was down in the 5th.. He recovered and knocked AJ down in the 6th.. In the 6th and 7th round Klitschko tore AJ a new azshole trying to level him for the count.. Josh made it to the 8th and that was all she wrote.. He took over slowly and with more intensity by the round.

Who's going to do the splattering??? ... You're weird... AJ has knocked every opponent out... No other Heavyweight Champion ever did that... Funny, but Deontay has the same number of Heavyweight Championship Fights as Rocky Marciano -- and he still hasn't fought anyone.

All time great heavyweight fight I wouldn't go that far, he failed to ko TAKAM and more to the point struggled past him, any fighter that can bang will have AJ in serious trouble, DUBOIS dropped him with his head guard on, if they ever let ORTIZ fight again he'd spangle AJ, if FURY can ever get fit again he'd ruin AJ, i think if WILDER lands first it's good night AJ, seeing as he struggled with a little TAKAM who can't punch I think POVETKIN would give him even more trouble, an unfit injured WHYTE had him on ice in the 2nd round but was to fat and unfit to finish him, and if they fight again I see WHYTE getting the better of AJ after 6 rounds, there's 5 who all have the beating of robotic chinny bodybuilder. And it don't matter how many months you've been training 2 years without a fight shows.. it did for big clitorus.. it did for stiverne.. and there both around there forties which is even harder to maintain

In the know 85 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 12:19

Kalan wrote: ↑13 Nov 2017, 21:44

In the know 85 wrote: ↑12 Nov 2017, 23:27


I think your so alone in that opinion, he done nothing to halt Joshua after he spangled him, klitschko was an old finished man who hadn't fought for 2 YEARS before fighting AJ.. bit of a casual news paper reading fan in my opinion. It won't be long at all before you have egg on your face cheering the AJ cash cow.. he'll get splattered sooner rather than later that's a dead cert.

You're full.. Klitschko had been training 15 months -- for the twice postponed Fury-Klitschko rematch and for Joshua.. You couldn't get in better shape than Klitschko and he proved it by taking horrific shots for 11 super intense rounds of an exciting ATG Heavyweight Title Fight.

Klitscho was down in the 5th.. He recovered and knocked AJ down in the 6th.. In the 6th and 7th round Klitschko tore AJ a new azshole trying to level him for the count.. Josh made it to the 8th and that was all she wrote.. He took over slowly and with more intensity by the round.

Who's going to do the splattering??? ... You're weird... AJ has knocked every opponent out... No other Heavyweight Champion ever did that... Funny, but Deontay has the same number of Heavyweight Championship Fights as Rocky Marciano -- and he still hasn't fought anyone.

All time great heavyweight fight I wouldn't go that far, he failed to ko TAKAM and more to the point struggled past him, any fighter that can bang will have AJ in serious trouble, DUBOIS dropped him with his head guard on, if they ever let ORTIZ fight again he'd spangle AJ, if FURY can ever get fit again he'd ruin AJ, i think if WILDER lands first it's good night AJ, seeing as he struggled with a little TAKAM who can't punch I think POVETKIN would give him even more trouble, an unfit injured WHYTE had him on ice in the 2nd round but was to fat and unfit to finish him, and if they fight again I see WHYTE getting the better of AJ after 6 rounds, there's 5 who all have the beating of robotic chinny bodybuilder. And it don't matter how many months you've been training 2 years without a fight shows.. it did for big clitorus.. it did for stiverne.. and there both around there forties which is even harder to maintain

Comparing the AJ fight version of WKlit with the Wilder II version of Stiverne now? Are you consciously obsessed with making a fool of yourself? Serious(ly facetious) question.

Tanzio wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 12:55

In the know 85 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 12:19

Kalan wrote: ↑13 Nov 2017, 21:44

You're full.. Klitschko had been training 15 months -- for the twice postponed Fury-Klitschko rematch and for Joshua.. You couldn't get in better shape than Klitschko and he proved it by taking horrific shots for 11 super intense rounds of an exciting ATG Heavyweight Title Fight.

Klitscho was down in the 5th.. He recovered and knocked AJ down in the 6th.. In the 6th and 7th round Klitschko tore AJ a new azshole trying to level him for the count.. Josh made it to the 8th and that was all she wrote.. He took over slowly and with more intensity by the round.

Who's going to do the splattering??? ... You're weird... AJ has knocked every opponent out... No other Heavyweight Champion ever did that... Funny, but Deontay has the same number of Heavyweight Championship Fights as Rocky Marciano -- and he still hasn't fought anyone.

All time great heavyweight fight I wouldn't go that far, he failed to ko TAKAM and more to the point struggled past him, any fighter that can bang will have AJ in serious trouble, DUBOIS dropped him with his head guard on, if they ever let ORTIZ fight again he'd spangle AJ, if FURY can ever get fit again he'd ruin AJ, i think if WILDER lands first it's good night AJ, seeing as he struggled with a little TAKAM who can't punch I think POVETKIN would give him even more trouble, an unfit injured WHYTE had him on ice in the 2nd round but was to fat and unfit to finish him, and if they fight again I see WHYTE getting the better of AJ after 6 rounds, there's 5 who all have the beating of robotic chinny bodybuilder. And it don't matter how many months you've been training 2 years without a fight shows.. it did for big clitorus.. it did for stiverne.. and there both around there forties which is even harder to maintain

Comparing the AJ fight version of WKlit with the Wilder II version of Stiverne now? Are you consciously obsessed with making a fool of yourself? Serious(ly facetious) question.

No comparing the out of shape veterans competing in them, ok bell end

In the know 85 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 12:59

Tanzio wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 12:55

In the know 85 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 12:19

All time great heavyweight fight I wouldn't go that far, he failed to ko TAKAM and more to the point struggled past him, any fighter that can bang will have AJ in serious trouble, DUBOIS dropped him with his head guard on, if they ever let ORTIZ fight again he'd spangle AJ, if FURY can ever get fit again he'd ruin AJ, i think if WILDER lands first it's good night AJ, seeing as he struggled with a little TAKAM who can't punch I think POVETKIN would give him even more trouble, an unfit injured WHYTE had him on ice in the 2nd round but was to fat and unfit to finish him, and if they fight again I see WHYTE getting the better of AJ after 6 rounds, there's 5 who all have the beating of robotic chinny bodybuilder. And it don't matter how many months you've been training 2 years without a fight shows.. it did for big clitorus.. it did for stiverne.. and there both around there forties which is even harder to maintain

Comparing the AJ fight version of WKlit with the Wilder II version of Stiverne now? Are you consciously obsessed with making a fool of yourself? Serious(ly facetious) question.

No comparing the out of shape veterans competing in them, ok bell end

Now Wlad was out of shape v AJ?

You didn’t actually watch that fight. Admit it.

Tanzio wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:03

In the know 85 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 12:59

Tanzio wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 12:55
Comparing the AJ fight version of WKlit with the Wilder II version of Stiverne now? Are you consciously obsessed with making a fool of yourself? Serious(ly facetious) question.

No comparing the out of shape veterans competing in them, ok bell end

Now Wlad was out of shape v AJ?

You didn’t actually watch that fight. Admit it.

Ok tanzi you pansy.. il speed it for you nice and slow, they.. both... hadn't fought... for... 2 YEARS... has that sunk in? Or is AJ's bell end still too close to your face??

In the know 85 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:07

Tanzio wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:03

In the know 85 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 12:59

No comparing the out of shape veterans competing in them, ok bell end

Now Wlad was out of shape v AJ?

You didn’t actually watch that fight. Admit it.

Ok tanzi you pansy.. il speed it for you nice and slow, they.. both... hadn't fought... for... 2 YEARS... has that sunk in? Or is AJ's bell end still too close to your face??

You have a hard time counting to two, don’t you I’m A Shmoe 85?

Tanzio wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:10

In the know 85 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:07

Tanzio wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:03
Now Wlad was out of shape v AJ?

You didn’t actually watch that fight. Admit it.

Ok tanzi you pansy.. il speed it for you nice and slow, they.. both... hadn't fought... for... 2 YEARS... has that sunk in? Or is AJ's bell end still too close to your face??

You have a hard time counting to two, don’t you I’m A Shmoe 85?

Your just another keyboard warrior that's in love with a fighter.. does your misses know you love AJ

In the know 85 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:17

Tanzio wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:10

In the know 85 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:07

Ok tanzi you pansy.. il speed it for you nice and slow, they.. both... hadn't fought... for... 2 YEARS... has that sunk in? Or is AJ's bell end still too close to your face??

You have a hard time counting to two, don’t you I’m A Shmoe 85?

Your just another keyboard warrior that's in love with a fighter.. does your misses know you love AJ

Admit it, I’m A Shmoe 85, you haven’t watched AJ v Wlad, have you?

Tanzio wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:22

In the know 85 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:17

Tanzio wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:10
You have a hard time counting to two, don’t you I’m A Shmoe 85?

Your just another keyboard warrior that's in love with a fighter.. does your misses know you love AJ

Admit it, I’m A Shmoe 85, you haven’t watched AJ v Wlad, have you?

Keep using AJ's dick as a microphone, it won't be long before he'll need the kiss of life

In the know 85 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:25

Tanzio wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:22

In the know 85 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:17

Your just another keyboard warrior that's in love with a fighter.. does your misses know you love AJ

Admit it, I’m A Shmoe 85, you haven’t watched AJ v Wlad, have you?

Keep using AJ's dick as a microphone, it won't be long before he'll need the kiss of life

You spend an entire thread criticizing a fight you have not even watched. I was right, you are obsessed with making a fool of yourself.

Mission accomplished.