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Wilder (being the current World Champion) would need to be getting something like 60% of the purse for that fight to happen.
Maybe even 65% if the fight is going to happen in Britain, as I think Eddie Hearn will make it so.

A Whyte v AJ rematch would definitely sell in the U.K. , Hearn can't lose

Wilder should just take the 4 million dollars. Joshua doesn’t need him as much as people think. If he refuses Hearn should just focus on Parker.

Crease wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 06:26 Wilder (being the current World Champion) would need to be getting something like 60% of the purse for that fight to happen.
Maybe even 65% if the fight is going to happen in Britain, as I think Eddie Hearn will make it so.

When wilder was offered 4 million to fight Whyte, do you or anyone else know what whytes slice was going to be?

The theory of the champion taking the bigger slice while in theory in a sporting sense is correct, in reality think golovkin vs canelo for example. The cash guys getbthe big money. I’m not suggesting Whyte is canelo but he is backed by a promotion company that gives it fighters big pay days

Ossyrules wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 06:51The cash guys getbthe big money. I’m not suggesting Whyte is canelo but he is backed by a promotion company that gives it fighters big pay days

Wilder's biggest payday was 1.5 million... Eddie Hearn outed that in interviews. He was offered 3 mill to fight Whyte and he declined.

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 06:47Joshua doesn’t need him as much as people think. If he refuses Hearn should just focus on Parker.

I do agree with this. If AJ relieved Parker of that WBO strap, then it kinda backs Wilder in to a corner. AJ would have 3 of the major belts and all this "I'm being ducked, they don't want to fight me" line from Wilder sounds all the more hollow, when he's sitting on a title and the other guy has everything else.

Wilder definitely needs him more, aj comes across as a fighter that cares about legacy. This would be the most anticipated heavyweight fight for me since holyfield/Lewis 1. Hard to imagine it not delivering.

J.P wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 06:42 A Whyte v AJ rematch would definitely sell in the U.K. , Hearn can't lose

Hearn may not lose as you say, but he loses in a business sense if he sells the product, i.e. the fight, for less than its true value. Joshua v Whyte makes decent money but decent becomes mega if the fight is a unification. Of course to achieve that it requires Whyte to overcome Deontay Wilder (or Joe Parker) which may prove beyond him, but the first order of business is to get the bugger to face him in the ring, and given that he's demanding 500 % of his previous highest payday, it's looking like even that may prove beyond him, and Eddie Hearn both.

Never mind Deontay I'm sure you could match your highest payday to date if you'd be willing to face Breazeale ,Miller or Ruiz but what makes you think these guys are going to be any easier?

I'd guess the Whyte fight pays 2 to 3 times the purse against which the drawback is you'd have to cross the Atlantic.

Of course you could just face another cab-driver or just sit on your hands until the summer while Joshua does all the heavy lifting. So what else is new?

It surprised me to read that Takam got $6.5 million for fighting Joshua, but helps it make a little more sense how Hearn can afford to pay Wilder $3 or 4 million to fight Whyte. I think Wilder should go for it. He said it is an easy fight, and won't make that much against anyone else.

Crease wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 08:38

Ossyrules wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 06:51The cash guys getbthe big money. I’m not suggesting Whyte is canelo but he is backed by a promotion company that gives it fighters big pay days

Wilder's biggest payday was 1.5 million... Eddie Hearn outed that in interviews. He was offered 3 mill to fight Whyte and he declined.

Yes Ive read that too

Crease wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 08:41

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 06:47Joshua doesn’t need him as much as people think. If he refuses Hearn should just focus on Parker.

I do agree with this. If AJ relieved Parker of that WBO strap, then it kinda backs Wilder in to a corner. AJ would have 3 of the major belts and all this "I'm being ducked, they don't want to fight me" line from Wilder sounds all the more hollow, when he's sitting on a title and the other guy has everything else.

People are now saying Joshua/Parker is close to being signed. Good move by Hearn. Eddie has also said however that he is willing to move to accommodate Wilder's silly demands, in my view 4 million is entirely reasonable.

Parker and Wilder next year would be seriously strong wins for AJ, he'll more or less have cleaned out the division at that point, unless you consider a stagnant Ortiz and Crackhead Fury relevant.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 08:55 Wilder definitely needs him more, aj comes across as a fighter that cares about legacy. This would be the most anticipated heavyweight fight for me since holyfield/Lewis 1. Hard to imagine it not delivering.

Mmm, difficult to see the judges being a factor there

Badhusker wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 09:04 It surprised me to read that Takam got $6.5 million for fighting Joshua, but helps it make a little more sense how Hearn can afford to pay Wilder $3 or 4 million to fight Whyte. I think Wilder should go for it. He said it is an easy fight, and won't make that much against anyone else.

where did you read takam making 6.5m? i read about 1m. i dont think 6.5 is realistic. wtf would they pay takam that much when hed surely fight for far less.

jamamb wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 23:05

Badhusker wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 09:04 It surprised me to read that Takam got $6.5 million for fighting Joshua, but helps it make a little more sense how Hearn can afford to pay Wilder $3 or 4 million to fight Whyte. I think Wilder should go for it. He said it is an easy fight, and won't make that much against anyone else.

where did you read takam making 6.5m? i read about 1m. i dont think 6.5 is realistic. wtf would they pay takam that much when hed surely fight for far less.

Here is where I read it. I thought it sounded like a lot too.

There is a phrase being bandied about known as the “The Anthony Joshua Effect”. That Anthony Joshua effect was clearly seen in some recent purses. Whereas Joshua took down somewhere around $20 million and Carlos Takam around $6 ½ million for their fight Wilder’s purse for the Stiverne fight was around $1 ½ million and Stiverne’s around $500,000. In fact when you look at the purses for the undercard in New York which were Shawn Porter $500,000, Adrian Granados $200,000, Dominic Breazeale $250,000 Eric Molina $90,000, Sergey Lipinets $90,000 and Akihiro Kondo $15,000 Takam received more for fighting Joshua than all of the combined purses for the fighters on the New York show. Joshua gets $20 million for fighting Takam and Wilder $1.5 million for fighting Stiverne – no wonder Wilder wants to fight Joshua.

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/no-wond ... ny-joshua/

6.5m seems strangely high. seen 1m reported elsewhere.

jamamb wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 23:20 6.5m seems strangely high. seen 1m reported elsewhere.

That's what I keep reading. 1 million.
Highest I've seen reported was 1.2 million

ya 6.5 sounds fantastical

I heard takam got 4.

Stupid post.. at least 60%, he's got the belt..

Ossyrules wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 05:18

Evander wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 00:58

Ossyrules wrote: ↑09 Nov 2017, 04:41

Most US fans don’t know who wilder is, which is why the bout only makes sense in England, to build profile and earn money doing it.

People on here can write off Whyte, but he would be at least a ranked opponent on Wilders record. I was looking over Wilders record last night, and the rankings of his opponents is absolutely woeful. At least give Whyte that much

Deontay is 39-0 with 38 of them blasted out by KO.
Wilder doesn't have to go to England and risk a decision going against him if he doesn't want to, he holds all the cards.

What does 39-0 mean if there is only 1 ranked guy in there. Is that what some of you American fans have come too? Looking at hollow numbers and padded records?

Wilder doesn’t have to go anywhere if he doesn’t want too. If he wants a pay day he comes to England simple.

America isn’t the Mecca it once was for boxing. Things change

You're right things do change and have swung in the favour of the UK, I've no problem with that as the UK have put a lot into the sport and all power to them.
But when coin is negotiated most of the boxers are going to go where that is, perhaps it will be a more popular fight in the UK depending on the timing but that doesn't mean in monetary terms it will make more than the U.S, it's a much bigger market here.
If Deontay's 39-0 doesn't mean anything why are we talking about him ?
We are talking about him because he's a serious player and at this point Anthony Joshua's most dangerous opponent.

Evander wrote: ↑13 Nov 2017, 20:45

Ossyrules wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 05:18

Evander wrote: ↑11 Nov 2017, 00:58

Deontay is 39-0 with 38 of them blasted out by KO.
Wilder doesn't have to go to England and risk a decision going against him if he doesn't want to, he holds all the cards.

What does 39-0 mean if there is only 1 ranked guy in there. Is that what some of you American fans have come too? Looking at hollow numbers and padded records?

Wilder doesn’t have to go anywhere if he doesn’t want too. If he wants a pay day he comes to England simple.

America isn’t the Mecca it once was for boxing. Things change

You're right things do change and have swung in the favour of the UK, I've no problem with that as the UK have put a lot into the sport and all power to them.
But when coin is negotiated most of the boxers are going to go where that is, perhaps it will be a more popular fight in the UK depending on the timing but that doesn't mean in monetary terms it will make more than the U.S, it's a much bigger market here.
If Deontay's 39-0 doesn't mean anything why are we talking about him ?
We are talking about him because he's a serious player and at this point Anthony Joshua's most dangerous opponent.

I don disagree in general but don’t bring up 39-0 as a point then say it’s not a point