BoxRec

elmersalsa wrote: ↑17 Nov 2017, 13:02

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑17 Nov 2017, 08:26

elmersalsa wrote: ↑17 Nov 2017, 03:08

Yeah, fantastic baloney. How about that?

I think it's called the bologna meets the pig. Either way, welcome to talking to you, though Oscar does have a better resume than Pryor anyway.

Pryor was the greater fighter, by far. Better boxing skills, and beat one of the greatest champions in history, convincingly. Having more titles doesn't mean you're the better boxer. If that is the case, why Oscar De La Hoya wasn't better than the great Sam Langford, Carlos Monzon, Jose "Mantequilla" Naples, Marvin Hagler or Jimmy Wilde? They only win one title. How come NOBODY rate him over them? Explain.

Explain what? The point you're trying to make? Elmer nobody could possibly put themselves in your head. You're the biggest hypocrite I've ever encountered. Does Pryor rate over any of those fighters? LMAO

elmersalsa wrote: ↑17 Nov 2017, 13:04

Jaywheel wrote: ↑17 Nov 2017, 12:30 You have to look at the whole picture. Pryor never released a GRAMMY nominated CD. He's not int he same class as the GREAT GOLDEN BOY. No way Elmo,

He better should have try singing. Pryor was a better cocaine snorter. How about that?

Hardly, he was a quitter. Oscar can still power down lines.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑17 Nov 2017, 16:41

elmersalsa wrote: ↑17 Nov 2017, 13:02

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑17 Nov 2017, 08:26

I think it's called the bologna meets the pig. Either way, welcome to talking to you, though Oscar does have a better resume than Pryor anyway.

Pryor was the greater fighter, by far. Better boxing skills, and beat one of the greatest champions in history, convincingly. Having more titles doesn't mean you're the better boxer. If that is the case, why Oscar De La Hoya wasn't better than the great Sam Langford, Carlos Monzon, Jose "Mantequilla" Naples, Marvin Hagler or Jimmy Wilde? They only win one title. How come NOBODY rate him over them? Explain.

Explain what? The point you're trying to make? Elmer nobody could possibly put themselves in your head. You're the biggest hypocrite I've ever encountered. Does Pryor rate over any of those fighters? LMAO

No, he doesn't. Neither does Oscar De La Hoya.

elmersalsa wrote: ↑17 Nov 2017, 16:45

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑17 Nov 2017, 16:41

elmersalsa wrote: ↑17 Nov 2017, 13:02

Pryor was the greater fighter, by far. Better boxing skills, and beat one of the greatest champions in history, convincingly. Having more titles doesn't mean you're the better boxer. If that is the case, why Oscar De La Hoya wasn't better than the great Sam Langford, Carlos Monzon, Jose "Mantequilla" Naples, Marvin Hagler or Jimmy Wilde? They only win one title. How come NOBODY rate him over them? Explain.

Explain what? The point you're trying to make? Elmer nobody could possibly put themselves in your head. You're the biggest hypocrite I've ever encountered. Does Pryor rate over any of those fighters? LMAO

No, he doesn't. Neither does Oscar De La Hoya.

I saw this fight again. I saw it twice. I cannot believe the terrific pace both had. Those are the marks of great champions. Two guys that belonged in the top 100 ATG pound per pound ranks in the 20th century.

The Explosive Thin Man, Alexis Arguello looked kind of slow. I don't know if it was because he knew he couldn't go all out like in his younger days, or was it he wanted to stop The Cincinnati Hawk in the later rounds. He should have been a little bit more aggressive and use his jab more since he was the taller opponent. Aaron Pryor was outboxing him and peppering Arguello with jabs. It should have been the other way around. Arguello should have been jabbing since he had the longer reach.
But, Pryor impressed me as a boxer. He showed versatility and pace. He showed that he was a complete fighter. He also had some great combination punching. And when he had you in trouble, he was a great finisher. He showed heart. Well, both showed heart.

In the 14th round, I saw that both clashed heads. It did more hurt to Arguello than it did to Pryor. Arguello didn't throw another significant punch after that head collision. And Pryor threw 22 unanswered blows. But, what a fight. I hated to see Arguello laying down on the canvas and the doctors were holding his head and neck, examining him. Good thing he didn't die in that ring. It was a brutal fight. And close. I had Pryor winning by 2 points at the time of the stoppage.

Ironically for both of them, they never lost their titles to an opponent. And also, both of them are deceased.

It was a great fight in a decade of unforgettable fights.

Yeah, get back on topic.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑20 Nov 2017, 23:48 Yeah, get back on topic.

Do you got any other things to say about this unforgettable fight.

elmersalsa wrote: ↑21 Nov 2017, 13:11

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑20 Nov 2017, 23:48 Yeah, get back on topic.

Do you got any other things to say about this unforgettable fight.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑21 Nov 2017, 13:19

elmersalsa wrote: ↑21 Nov 2017, 13:11

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑20 Nov 2017, 23:48 Yeah, get back on topic.

Do you got any other things to say about this unforgettable fight.

Nothing, I guess. Bye bye.

elmersalsa wrote: ↑22 Nov 2017, 09:41

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑21 Nov 2017, 13:19

elmersalsa wrote: ↑21 Nov 2017, 13:11

Do you got any other things to say about this unforgettable fight.

Nothing, I guess. Bye bye.

Going into the "Battle of Champions", The Explosive Thin Man, Alexis Arguello, had won 41 out of 42 bouts since the year 1974. The only loss he had from 1974 to 1982 time frame was a ten round unanimous decision to Vilomar Fernandez of Dominican Republic via New York City in 1978. The Fernandez fight squashed a possible super fight showdown with the great Roberto Duran for the world lightweight title. Duran was to receive a $300,000 payday for that title defense at Madison Square Garden in New York.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑13 Nov 2017, 11:02 Second best fight I've seen in over 40 years watching. I was a fan of both guys, I ended up getting a friend $10 and that gave me Pryor. Great fight, great heart from both.

Which was the best fight you ever seen?

elmersalsa wrote: ↑23 Nov 2017, 18:09

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑13 Nov 2017, 11:02 Second best fight I've seen in over 40 years watching. I was a fan of both guys, I ended up getting a friend $10 and that gave me Pryor. Great fight, great heart from both.

Which was the best fight you ever seen?

Saad/Lopez 2. It's a toss up. I've just never seen anything like that 8th round. The rest of the top 5, just fights I've seen live, I did a top 100 years ago so I'm not positive of the order.

3. Vazquez/Marquez 3
4. Chacon/Limon 4
5. Morales/Barrera 1

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 15:23

Jaywheel wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:26 Never said he had no attributes and wasn't exciting to watch. He wasn't a complete boxer by any means and you just acknowledged it.

Yes he did, time for the squirm out. Elmer obviously has a different definition for a complete fighter than the rest if the planet.

Pryor could box... He had to in the Arguello fights... He showed a nice jab and slipped some of those right hands... AA lined him up a few times and nailed Pryor with shots he easily absorbed, but for the most part Pryor was winning the boxing match... He had a complete game.

His problem was cocaine... No telling what he might have accomplished had he kept his nose clean... Another sad tale of addiction

Kalan wrote: ↑29 Nov 2017, 11:45

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 15:23

Jaywheel wrote: ↑14 Nov 2017, 13:26 Never said he had no attributes and wasn't exciting to watch. He wasn't a complete boxer by any means and you just acknowledged it.

Yes he did, time for the squirm out. Elmer obviously has a different definition for a complete fighter than the rest if the planet.

Pryor could box... He had to in the Arguello fights... He showed a nice jab and slipped some of those right hands... AA lined him up a few times and nailed Pryor with shots he easily absorbed, but for the most part Pryor was winning the boxing match... He had a complete game.

His problem was cocaine... No telling what he might have accomplished had he kept his nose clean... Another sad tale of addiction

the great pryor bested the great arguello in a the great night for boxing, and now this is a the great thread that's all I know

I'm also now reading elmer's posts in the voice of Elmo from Sesame Street

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑30 Nov 2017, 09:21 the great pryor bested the great arguello in a the great night for boxing, and now this is a the great thread that's all I know

I'm also now reading elmer's posts in the voice of Elmo from Sesame Street