Re: Hughie Fury vs. Sam Sexton - 12 May 2018
Posted: 17 Feb 2018, 08:56
think it is a confidence building fight for fury , which he lacks

That's HW boxing though. Anything can happen.fightfan95 wrote: ↑22 Mar 2018, 07:56 Hughie will win this comfortably I would imagine. I just cannot get excited at all about Hughie - I'd be absolutely astonished if he ever wins a world title.
Heavyweights need to punch to sell. Hughie can't punch.KiwiRider wrote: ↑22 Mar 2018, 14:35That's HW boxing though. Anything can happen.fightfan95 wrote: ↑22 Mar 2018, 07:56 Hughie will win this comfortably I would imagine. I just cannot get excited at all about Hughie - I'd be absolutely astonished if he ever wins a world title.
Tyson beat Wlad, a lot of people didn't think that could happen.
The problem is, you can't sell big fights for him because he is so boring. And you need to sell big fights to get big opportunities.
dont ppl say anything can happen in hw boxing because of the greater power and chance of a shock ko?KiwiRider wrote: ↑22 Mar 2018, 14:35That's HW boxing though. Anything can happen.fightfan95 wrote: ↑22 Mar 2018, 07:56 Hughie will win this comfortably I would imagine. I just cannot get excited at all about Hughie - I'd be absolutely astonished if he ever wins a world title.
Tyson beat Wlad, a lot of people didn't think that could happen.
The problem is, you can't sell big fights for him because he is so boring. And you need to sell big fights to get big opportunities.
Mate, April fools was Sunday. He made Parker miss all night long but still clearly lost... AJ would just need to lean on him, push him around a bit, let that heavy jab set things upstujones wrote: ↑05 Apr 2018, 10:50 Hughie will probably need to stear himself to mandatory position to get another crack, but I hope he can.... might sound like absolute pie in the sky, but Hughie is the only current heavyweight who I think actually stands a geniune chance against Joshua. I think Joshua embarrasses Wilder with basic technique, I do not class Tyson as a current Heavyweight and I think the ship might have sailed on Povetkin, Pulev and Ortiz.
I think he has the potential to make Joshua miss all night, does he have it in him though to make him pay - that's the question for me.... would it be another potential Parker vs Fury fight.
Geniune chance is a bit different than "I think he will beat him".... Where I think there MAYBE a difference between H Fury and Parker is size - whereas Parker seemed a little bit clueless in terms of how to counter, that is what Fury does naturally, and I think Fury's natural size might make it more problematic for Joshua to win off the jab as it was vs a smaller Parker. Yes, he would have to up his game from the Parker fight. But I felt Joshua looked a little slow at times (even being lighter) vs Parker.... Parker was also making Joshua miss and Parker is not known for having exceptional boxing skills. Parker is not a back foot counter puncher, this is Fury's natural style.danconnollyeire wrote: ↑05 Apr 2018, 11:39Mate, April fools was Sunday. He made Parker miss all night long but still clearly lost... AJ would just need to lean on him, push him around a bit, let that heavy jab set things upstujones wrote: ↑05 Apr 2018, 10:50 Hughie will probably need to stear himself to mandatory position to get another crack, but I hope he can.... might sound like absolute pie in the sky, but Hughie is the only current heavyweight who I think actually stands a geniune chance against Joshua. I think Joshua embarrasses Wilder with basic technique, I do not class Tyson as a current Heavyweight and I think the ship might have sailed on Povetkin, Pulev and Ortiz.
I think he has the potential to make Joshua miss all night, does he have it in him though to make him pay - that's the question for me.... would it be another potential Parker vs Fury fight.
Despite Hughie being decent defensively, his lack of fire power would be a massive problem. Can't see him being able to keep someone of Joshua's size at range like he did against Parker. Parker isn't the biggest puncher and Hughie didn't want to take any chances against him, so you'd think he'd take even less chances against a puncher like AJ. Joshua wouldn't need to rush in to close the gap like Parker did either so less chance of Hughie tying him up. Joshua is also physically too strong to be have his arms tied up and head pushed down repeatedly, and no referee would allow that with tens of thousands of AJ fans on his back.stujones wrote: ↑05 Apr 2018, 12:05Geniune chance is a bit different than "I think he will beat him".... Where I think there MAYBE a difference between H Fury and Parker is size - whereas Parker seemed a little bit clueless in terms of how to counter, that is what Fury does naturally, and I think Fury's natural size might make it more problematic for Joshua to win off the jab as it was vs a smaller Parker. Yes, he would have to up his game from the Parker fight. But I felt Joshua looked a little slow at times (even being lighter) vs Parker.... Parker was also making Joshua miss and Parker is not known for having exceptional boxing skills. Parker is not a back foot counter puncher, this is Fury's natural style.danconnollyeire wrote: ↑05 Apr 2018, 11:39Mate, April fools was Sunday. He made Parker miss all night long but still clearly lost... AJ would just need to lean on him, push him around a bit, let that heavy jab set things upstujones wrote: ↑05 Apr 2018, 10:50 Hughie will probably need to stear himself to mandatory position to get another crack, but I hope he can.... might sound like absolute pie in the sky, but Hughie is the only current heavyweight who I think actually stands a geniune chance against Joshua. I think Joshua embarrasses Wilder with basic technique, I do not class Tyson as a current Heavyweight and I think the ship might have sailed on Povetkin, Pulev and Ortiz.
I think he has the potential to make Joshua miss all night, does he have it in him though to make him pay - that's the question for me.... would it be another potential Parker vs Fury fight.
From what I have seen, Parker beat Fury through desire and work rate as opposed to skill level. Fury just didn't throw enough, but he did make Parker look silly at times with his defense. Whereas I think Fury's size might mean the heavy jab might not be as easy as it was vs Parker. To lean on him etc. he's going to have to get close enough to do it.
Fury cannot afford just to stay on the back foot, survive and do nothing - it might have worked for his cousin vs Klitchsko - but it didn't work vs Parker and it won't work vs Joshua - he's got to throw punches..... but unlike Parker (against AJ) his size might cause some issues. Parker made Joshua miss, but didn't have the tools / size to counter this - that's Fury's game and he has the size to possibly come through with his own jabs.
Clutching at straws perhaps, but I really cannot see anyone else (Tyson aside) testing AJ. Wilder could land a lucky punch, but it is more likely that he will get embarrased. Fury's technique is so sound he would at least avoid getting embarresed. I really cannot see AJ KO'ing him.
Yes, it would take something we haven't seen from Fury before....but I wouldn't say it's beyond impossibility that Fury could box / be defensive but pick up some points by picking off AJ. I thought Parker showed in spurts superior speed than AJ. And in fact I feel a slower fighter than Parker might suit Fury more.ElJefe wrote: ↑05 Apr 2018, 17:21Despite Hughie being decent defensively, his lack of fire power would be a massive problem. Can't see him being able to keep someone of Joshua's size at range like he did against Parker. Parker isn't the biggest puncher and Hughie didn't want to take any chances against him, so you'd think he'd take even less chances against a puncher like AJ. Joshua wouldn't need to rush in to close the gap like Parker did either so less chance of Hughie tying him up. Joshua is also physically too strong to be have his arms tied up and head pushed down repeatedly, and no referee would allow that with tens of thousands of AJ fans on his back.stujones wrote: ↑05 Apr 2018, 12:05Geniune chance is a bit different than "I think he will beat him".... Where I think there MAYBE a difference between H Fury and Parker is size - whereas Parker seemed a little bit clueless in terms of how to counter, that is what Fury does naturally, and I think Fury's natural size might make it more problematic for Joshua to win off the jab as it was vs a smaller Parker. Yes, he would have to up his game from the Parker fight. But I felt Joshua looked a little slow at times (even being lighter) vs Parker.... Parker was also making Joshua miss and Parker is not known for having exceptional boxing skills. Parker is not a back foot counter puncher, this is Fury's natural style.danconnollyeire wrote: ↑05 Apr 2018, 11:39
Mate, April fools was Sunday. He made Parker miss all night long but still clearly lost... AJ would just need to lean on him, push him around a bit, let that heavy jab set things up
From what I have seen, Parker beat Fury through desire and work rate as opposed to skill level. Fury just didn't throw enough, but he did make Parker look silly at times with his defense. Whereas I think Fury's size might mean the heavy jab might not be as easy as it was vs Parker. To lean on him etc. he's going to have to get close enough to do it.
Fury cannot afford just to stay on the back foot, survive and do nothing - it might have worked for his cousin vs Klitchsko - but it didn't work vs Parker and it won't work vs Joshua - he's got to throw punches..... but unlike Parker (against AJ) his size might cause some issues. Parker made Joshua miss, but didn't have the tools / size to counter this - that's Fury's game and he has the size to possibly come through with his own jabs.
Clutching at straws perhaps, but I really cannot see anyone else (Tyson aside) testing AJ. Wilder could land a lucky punch, but it is more likely that he will get embarrased. Fury's technique is so sound he would at least avoid getting embarresed. I really cannot see AJ KO'ing him.
The old saying is 'make em miss make em pay'. Hughie lacks the final part. The odd counter jab doesn't cut it at this levelstujones wrote: ↑05 Apr 2018, 12:05Geniune chance is a bit different than "I think he will beat him".... Where I think there MAYBE a difference between H Fury and Parker is size - whereas Parker seemed a little bit clueless in terms of how to counter, that is what Fury does naturally, and I think Fury's natural size might make it more problematic for Joshua to win off the jab as it was vs a smaller Parker. Yes, he would have to up his game from the Parker fight. But I felt Joshua looked a little slow at times (even being lighter) vs Parker.... Parker was also making Joshua miss and Parker is not known for having exceptional boxing skills. Parker is not a back foot counter puncher, this is Fury's natural style.danconnollyeire wrote: ↑05 Apr 2018, 11:39Mate, April fools was Sunday. He made Parker miss all night long but still clearly lost... AJ would just need to lean on him, push him around a bit, let that heavy jab set things upstujones wrote: ↑05 Apr 2018, 10:50 Hughie will probably need to stear himself to mandatory position to get another crack, but I hope he can.... might sound like absolute pie in the sky, but Hughie is the only current heavyweight who I think actually stands a geniune chance against Joshua. I think Joshua embarrasses Wilder with basic technique, I do not class Tyson as a current Heavyweight and I think the ship might have sailed on Povetkin, Pulev and Ortiz.
I think he has the potential to make Joshua miss all night, does he have it in him though to make him pay - that's the question for me.... would it be another potential Parker vs Fury fight.
From what I have seen, Parker beat Fury through desire and work rate as opposed to skill level. Fury just didn't throw enough, but he did make Parker look silly at times with his defense. Whereas I think Fury's size might mean the heavy jab might not be as easy as it was vs Parker. To lean on him etc. he's going to have to get close enough to do it.
Fury cannot afford just to stay on the back foot, survive and do nothing - it might have worked for his cousin vs Klitchsko - but it didn't work vs Parker and it won't work vs Joshua - he's got to throw punches..... but unlike Parker (against AJ) his size might cause some issues. Parker made Joshua miss, but didn't have the tools / size to counter this - that's Fury's game and he has the size to possibly come through with his own jabs.
Clutching at straws perhaps, but I really cannot see anyone else (Tyson aside) testing AJ. Wilder could land a lucky punch, but it is more likely that he will get embarrased. Fury's technique is so sound he would at least avoid getting embarresed. I really cannot see AJ KO'ing him.
Yeah, we'd have to see more from Fury than against Parker for sure. But IMO Joshua is slower than Parker and Fury had to have a bit of ring rust in the Parker fight himself. Whilst Wilder could land a bomb, I think the reality is Joshua technique will make Wilder look a fool.... Out of all the current Heavyweights (and I am not counting Tyson Fury as this yet) - Hughie is the only fighter who I think might make it interesting, aside from the punchers chance Wilder has.danconnollyeire wrote: ↑06 Apr 2018, 05:35The old saying is 'make em miss make em pay'. Hughie lacks the final part. The odd counter jab doesn't cut it at this levelstujones wrote: ↑05 Apr 2018, 12:05Geniune chance is a bit different than "I think he will beat him".... Where I think there MAYBE a difference between H Fury and Parker is size - whereas Parker seemed a little bit clueless in terms of how to counter, that is what Fury does naturally, and I think Fury's natural size might make it more problematic for Joshua to win off the jab as it was vs a smaller Parker. Yes, he would have to up his game from the Parker fight. But I felt Joshua looked a little slow at times (even being lighter) vs Parker.... Parker was also making Joshua miss and Parker is not known for having exceptional boxing skills. Parker is not a back foot counter puncher, this is Fury's natural style.danconnollyeire wrote: ↑05 Apr 2018, 11:39
Mate, April fools was Sunday. He made Parker miss all night long but still clearly lost... AJ would just need to lean on him, push him around a bit, let that heavy jab set things up
From what I have seen, Parker beat Fury through desire and work rate as opposed to skill level. Fury just didn't throw enough, but he did make Parker look silly at times with his defense. Whereas I think Fury's size might mean the heavy jab might not be as easy as it was vs Parker. To lean on him etc. he's going to have to get close enough to do it.
Fury cannot afford just to stay on the back foot, survive and do nothing - it might have worked for his cousin vs Klitchsko - but it didn't work vs Parker and it won't work vs Joshua - he's got to throw punches..... but unlike Parker (against AJ) his size might cause some issues. Parker made Joshua miss, but didn't have the tools / size to counter this - that's Fury's game and he has the size to possibly come through with his own jabs.
Clutching at straws perhaps, but I really cannot see anyone else (Tyson aside) testing AJ. Wilder could land a lucky punch, but it is more likely that he will get embarrased. Fury's technique is so sound he would at least avoid getting embarresed. I really cannot see AJ KO'ing him.