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I know the Eubanks have few friends but the backlash didn't take long to arrive.

Let's get some perspective here. No one, I mean no one outside the Eubank's camp claimed that Jr was the best MW or SMW on the planet. All that was said was that he was favourite in many eyes to beat George Groves, in what was admittedly a tough fight to predict.

And lets not also forget that as things turned out he's in a better position to fight again soon than the winner. This time Groves scraped it narrowly indeed.

He loses to the best in the division and all of a sudden he is an absolute pile of trash.

Horse wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 16:32 He loses to the best in the division and all of a sudden he is an absolute pile of trash.

This is true and quite predictable.

Fans often see winning fighters as the closest thing to Sugar Ray.

But let him lose one stinkin' fight and suddenly he's absolute garbage who should retire.

Decades ago it was never like this. Fighters were allowed to lose and not have the wrath of boxing world descend on them.

Losing was just accepted as a normal part of a fighters' development and not considered evidence that he would be better off hiding behind a mask and choosing a new profession.

Horse wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 16:32 He loses to the best in the division and all of a sudden he is an absolute pile of trash.

Technique-wise he is a pile of trash.

And plenty of us were saying so before yesterday's fight.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 17:16Technique-wise he is a pile of trash.

And plenty of us were saying so before yesterday's fight.

He's certainly got his limitations, but I think he's still got enough about him to be a world champion.

I don't think that he is anywhere near being the most overrated fighter in recent years.

Is he more overrated than David Price was?

Despite last night, I don't think anyone can argue Eubank isn't a comfortable top 10 at super middle. Some people might have got carried away, but he's still somewhere in the mix - granted, it's an awful division, but it's not like Price is in the deepest division in boxing, and he failed far more miserably.

Deleted_Scenes wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 17:29 Is he more overrated than David Price was?

Despite last night, I don't think anyone can argue Eubank isn't a comfortable top 10 at super middle. Some people might have got carried away, but he's still somewhere in the mix - granted, it's an awful division, but it's not like Price is in the deepest division in boxing, and he failed far more miserably.

Well, Eubank has a chin. Price doesn't.

No one should be defending him. He deserves the criticism. I’m pretty gobsmacked to be honest, had him as favourite and thought he had good head movement

What the fk was he doing in there? What was the plan? He didn’t work groves over at all and it was not a close fight. No one wants a rematch. He may as well have been blind folded as he was throwing punches well out of distance and was not able to set anything up with a jab and get in range. I saw him ducking bellow the waist to try to get in. Cheap and illegal. When he was in close he was grabbing and punching with one hand and most of the punches were blocked, for long periods he just was stationary (his dad used to do this but his dad had real power) with no offence playing to groves who enjoyed the cruisy pace.

I guess this is what happens when match making is concerned with building a fighters hype rather than building a fighter experience and skill. Although many here saw his deficients prior I thought he was strong and comfortable in the ring. Thought He would apply pressure (he didn’t until very late in the fight and the last 30 seconds or so of rd 12 when he had a bell to save him) and be able to throw six-ten punch combos we have seen him land on other opposition and pads. Put I guess pads aren’t as rangy and don’t fire back like a boxer groves. He was also buckled at least twice. I think groves power and speed froze him up.

Whether I’m being fair or too harsh or exaggerating..who cares. It’s nowhere near as delusional as Eubank was pre and really post fight.

title should be 'one of the most overrated in years' tbf. a guy like jamie cox is actually more overrated

and by years i meant the last few. i think price actually was more overrated back like 6/7 years ago

Thomastearns wrote: ↑18 Feb 2018, 16:02 I know the Eubanks have few friends but the backlash didn't take long to arrive.

Let's get some perspective here. No one, I mean no one outside the Eubank's camp claimed that Jr was the best MW or SMW on the planet. All that was said was that he was favourite in many eyes to beat George Groves, in what was admittedly a tough fight to predict.

And lets not also forget that as things turned out he's in a better position to fight again soon than the winner. This time Groves scraped it narrowly indeed.

wasnt narrow at all mate, thought groves won 9 or 10 and he was still a comfy winner on the offical cards too

and btw being even very overrated doesnt mean someone is a bad fighter, but eubank as deffo nowhere near as good as so many thought. it was a pretty standard win for groves tbh. just another day at the office despite him actuallly being underdog!

Groves won by 2-4 rounds in my book, his experience paid off as he fought a smart fight and paced himself very well.
The fight was intriguing when it began tense and stand offish onto a boxing match with explosive and unexpected moments sprinkled throughout the 12 rounds.
Groves was controlled and knew how to carry himself during the storms, Eubank seemed to lose a sense of where he was in the fight and his skill shape suffered from a lack of realistic planning as they probably prepared for a beginning and end of a rally and exchange ... they missed the middle part.

sorry, i take this thread back, apparently eubank was the true winner and we (and even eubank sr) only thought groves won because of commentary

Groves won ... by how much can be debated but he seemed to win clear to me.

Two of the top-five ranked 168lb-ers fought last Saturday night... and one of them inevitably had to lose.

The less experienced, less skilled, smaller fighter, possessing far less power, whilst having never previously engaged in a marquee bout, lost to the better man that entered the ring weighing an enormous 184lbs.

The majority of boxing insiders successfully predicted a victory for Groves. The result of that fight wasn't a shock!

So Chris Eubank Jr. lost... and suddenly he's regarded as a terrible fighter, one of the most overrated boxers of all time... and then people wonder why so many of the sports' elite choose to protect their resume? FFS!

It's kind of moronic to see merely casual boxing observers celebrate Eubank Jr's defeat and ridicule him for being a terrible fighter, yet the very same set of people also moan about boxing not being as good as the UFC, where the best often face the best, because losses don't tarnish careers!

Double-standards or what? These moaners don't realise that they are the cause for most of boxing's biggest fights not taking place!

The fight reminded me Klitchko vs Povetkin where Eubankin had no clue what to do against a bigger, stronger opponent who was clinching as soon as the smaller guy was getting inside.