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Horse wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 15:13 Scott Westgarth R.I.P.

Steve Bunce's article about this seemed unpleasant and I'm not sure what sort of point that he was trying to make with it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 29036.html

Maybe he's trying to pull a Howard Cosell and start covering another sport while beginning to act like he's suddenly too good for this one.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 16:19

Horse wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 15:13 Scott Westgarth R.I.P.

Steve Bunce's article about this seemed unpleasant and I'm not sure what sort of point that he was trying to make with it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 29036.html

Maybe he's trying to pull a Howard Cosell and start covering another sport while beginning to act like he's suddenly too good for this one.

It's a strange tone, almost a bit of self loathing going on. He knows he will be at the next show, and the next and the next and nothing will change in spite of all the condolences and the well wishers. Its a mugs game and an abnormal way of making a living in modern life but still people are drawn to it.

Has any one seen Tyan Booths tweets? he seems a twisted little toss pot.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 16:13

Horse wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 15:13 Scott Westgarth R.I.P.

Steve Bunce's article about this seemed unpleasant and I'm not sure what sort of point that he was trying to make with it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 29036.html

Agreed, the tone was strange. I assume he was implicitly responding to something some journalist or other has said?

Very odd. It read as if Buncey had written the article after being awake for 4 days straight or something, it was all over the place in tone and style.

Yes We Can wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 16:52
Has any one seen Tyan Booths tweets? he seems a twisted little toss pot.

I just had a quick look, some really bizarre stuff on there

not read booths stuff but often the bizarre stuff is from guys who think there deep but actually arent at all

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 17:14

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 16:13

Horse wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 15:13 Scott Westgarth R.I.P.

Steve Bunce's article about this seemed unpleasant and I'm not sure what sort of point that he was trying to make with it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 29036.html

Agreed, the tone was strange. I assume he was implicitly responding to something some journalist or other has said?

Very odd. It read as if Buncey had written the article after being awake for 4 days straight or something, it was all over the place in tone and style.

Yeah, like in the article he's taking pot-shots at figures of his hallucinatory imagination

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 17:16

Yes We Can wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 16:52
Has any one seen Tyan Booths tweets? he seems a twisted little toss pot.

I just had a quick look, some really bizarre stuff on there

Bloody idiot.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 17:39

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 17:14

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 16:13

Agreed, the tone was strange. I assume he was implicitly responding to something some journalist or other has said?

Very odd. It read as if Buncey had written the article after being awake for 4 days straight or something, it was all over the place in tone and style.

Yeah, like in the article he's taking pot-shots at figures of his hallucinatory imagination

I'm not Bunce's biggest fan, but honestly a lot of that seemed like inner conflict and grief.

Something definitely seems wrong. Shouldn't things like this be getting less common? But the rate seems to have gone up noticably. RIP

BitPlayer wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 18:39

You have to feel for Dec to, saw him on the news last night and seemed genuinely gutted.

Read a nice piece on social media from Glyn Rhodes too.

BitPlayer wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 18:32

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 17:39

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 17:14

Very odd. It read as if Buncey had written the article after being awake for 4 days straight or something, it was all over the place in tone and style.

Yeah, like in the article he's taking pot-shots at figures of his hallucinatory imagination

I'm not Bunce's biggest fan, but honestly a lot of that seemed like inner conflict and grief.

Something definitely seems wrong. Shouldn't things like this be getting less common? But the rate seems to have gone up noticably. RIP

I’ve no idea if it is the case here as I’d never heard of either fighter until Sunday, but I wonder if the increased use of PEDs is taking its toll. Bigger, faster, stronger doesn’t sound like too great a combo if you’re being thumped about the head for a hobby/living.

Sklar wrote: ↑27 Feb 2018, 03:40

BitPlayer wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 18:32

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 17:39

Yeah, like in the article he's taking pot-shots at figures of his hallucinatory imagination

I'm not Bunce's biggest fan, but honestly a lot of that seemed like inner conflict and grief.

Something definitely seems wrong. Shouldn't things like this be getting less common? But the rate seems to have gone up noticably. RIP

I’ve no idea if it is the case here as I’d never heard of either fighter until Sunday, but I wonder if the increased use of PEDs is taking its toll. Bigger, faster, stronger doesn’t sound like too great a combo if you’re being thumped about the head for a hobby/living.

Dunno, have they actually gotten more prevelent? A lot of these accidents have happened around British level or below too.

Sklar wrote: ↑27 Feb 2018, 03:40
I’ve no idea if it is the case here as I’d never heard of either fighter until Sunday, but I wonder if the increased use of PEDs is taking its toll. Bigger, faster, stronger doesn’t sound like too great a combo if you’re being thumped about the head for a hobby/living.

i hadn't even thought about that. a sobering viewpoint.

I dont think its PEDs although they wont help. The reason I say this is that it doesn't seem to happen at h/w. My guess would be the problem is more sophisticated weight making than in the past, a lot of blokes are fighting at weight levels they dont naturally make.
Terrible shame whenever it happens and whatever the cause.

Did these lads weigh in on the day of the fight?

Sklar wrote: ↑27 Feb 2018, 06:02 Did these lads weigh in on the day of the fight?

No.

Cheers.

rm1 wrote: ↑27 Feb 2018, 05:54 I dont think its PEDs although they wont help. The reason I say this is that it doesn't seem to happen at h/w. My guess would be the problem is more sophisticated weight making than in the past, a lot of blokes are fighting at weight levels they dont naturally make.
Terrible shame whenever it happens and whatever the cause.

I dont think the weight issues had a factor in this. Scott always seemed in great shape and never seemed to increase in weight after fights. He always seemed in good nick to be honest.

Because he knew his limitations i dont think he was the type to be taking stuff to artificially increase his body. He wasnt the type to be calling other boxers names on social media, he was what i saw a genuine lad who just loved boxing.

Papers say he was the underdog in the fight suggesting that he was out of his depth but both lads were novices still taking the next step up the ladder. Scott had 2 losses but 1 i believe was on a cut and the other loss was arguble.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 17:39

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 17:14

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑26 Feb 2018, 16:13

Agreed, the tone was strange. I assume he was implicitly responding to something some journalist or other has said?

Very odd. It read as if Buncey had written the article after being awake for 4 days straight or something, it was all over the place in tone and style.

Yeah, like in the article he's taking pot-shots at figures of his hallucinatory imagination

It was very strange indeed. A bitter and vague diatribe.

I find it particularly tasteless how he routinely boasts about the time he's spent in hospital waiting rooms. He did recently on the Costello and Bunce podcast