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Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 10:55

bigjack wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 10:34 A true sign of a casual is they quite often pronounce boxers names wrong,i've heard Merryweather,Frock and Wetherspoon mentioned and usually in the wrong weight class too

Remember when Froch kept calling Spence ‘Spencer’ when he was commentating on the Brook fight?

stujones wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 07:21 Having experienced a Joshua card live for the first (and probably only) time and up with the "casuals" - I can say they were as annoying as feck. Okay, I'm not expecting everyone to have encyclopedia knowledge of boxing - but when people were saying that Carlos Molina fought Anthony Joshua and this Kelly fella cannot be that good because Joshua stopped Molina it is pretty bad.

People were saying, in all seriousness, that Joshua is champion of the world cos Mayweather has retired - as if being champion of the world means exactly that - there is one world champion in the whole of boxing. When Ryan Burnett fought they thought it was a typo in the programme and that it must be an eliminator for Joshua.

Yeah the card wasn't exciting, but the amount of - Oh this is poo lets get a pint, lets go for a fag, I was hearing, even for Price vs Povetkin. Loads thought Bruno was Dillan White also.

I'll certainly never get the cheap seats again, not because of the view but because of the casuals - and quite possibly more than any sport, the casuals like to think they know everything about boxing.

black panther wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 15:45

stujones wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 07:21 Having experienced a Joshua card live for the first (and probably only) time and up with the "casuals" - I can say they were as annoying as feck. Okay, I'm not expecting everyone to have encyclopedia knowledge of boxing - but when people were saying that Carlos Molina fought Anthony Joshua and this Kelly fella cannot be that good because Joshua stopped Molina it is pretty bad.

People were saying, in all seriousness, that Joshua is champion of the world cos Mayweather has retired - as if being champion of the world means exactly that - there is one world champion in the whole of boxing. When Ryan Burnett fought they thought it was a typo in the programme and that it must be an eliminator for Joshua.

Yeah the card wasn't exciting, but the amount of - Oh this is poo lets get a pint, lets go for a fag, I was hearing, even for Price vs Povetkin. Loads thought Bruno was Dillan White also.

I'll certainly never get the cheap seats again, not because of the view but because of the casuals - and quite possibly more than any sport, the casuals like to think they know everything about boxing.

Sometimes I dream I have a stamp
with “YDKSAB” (you don’t know sh*t about boxing) and permanently stamp it on the foreheads of such people who claim to be experts in the sport.

There’s nothing wrong with being a casual. But there’s definitely something wrong with being a casual and thinking you are an expert/ have expert opinion on boxing.

tobyh5 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:40 Lot of snowflakes here. Calling someone a casual is a simple and quick way to describe someone who is exactly as it suggests, a casual fan - meaning someone who can enjoy the odd fight and watches the occasional show and would say they like boxing but only watches the big fights in reality. But they then talk utter crap like asking how Joshua would do against Mayweather.

What is the big deal with using a word to describe someone who watches a very small amount of the sport and so has little knowledge but then talks crap through their casualness. In the modern world, people think if they know a little about something, it is enough to talk as if they know a lot rather than just recognising their knowledge well is small. Nothing wrong with not knowing a subject in depth

tobyh5 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:40 Lot of snowflakes here. Calling someone a casual is a simple and quick way to describe someone who is exactly as it suggests, a casual fan - meaning someone who can enjoy the odd fight and watches the occasional show and would say they like boxing but only watches the big fights in reality. But they then talk utter crap like asking how Joshua would do against Mayweather.

What is the big deal with using a word to describe someone who watches a very small amount of the sport and so has little knowledge but then talks crap through their casualness. In the modern world, people think if they know a little about something, it is enough to talk as if they know a lot rather than just recognising their knowledge well is small. Nothing wrong with not knowing a subject in depth

banjo wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 02:20

tobyh5 wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 19:40 Lot of snowflakes here. Calling someone a casual is a simple and quick way to describe someone who is exactly as it suggests, a casual fan - meaning someone who can enjoy the odd fight and watches the occasional show and would say they like boxing but only watches the big fights in reality. But they then talk utter crap like asking how Joshua would do against Mayweather.

What is the big deal with using a word to describe someone who watches a very small amount of the sport and so has little knowledge but then talks crap through their casualness. In the modern world, people think if they know a little about something, it is enough to talk as if they know a lot rather than just recognising their knowledge well is small. Nothing wrong with not knowing a subject in depth

Because it's used in a derogatory way by the so called "hardcore" fans to deride anybody who attempts to show a bit of interest in boxing but lacks the knowledge and might come out with some silly comments from time to time. Even the most knowledgeable of boxing fans/experts started out as a casual fan.

black panther wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 15:45

stujones wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 07:21 Having experienced a Joshua card live for the first (and probably only) time and up with the "casuals" - I can say they were as annoying as feck. Okay, I'm not expecting everyone to have encyclopedia knowledge of boxing - but when people were saying that Carlos Molina fought Anthony Joshua and this Kelly fella cannot be that good because Joshua stopped Molina it is pretty bad.

People were saying, in all seriousness, that Joshua is champion of the world cos Mayweather has retired - as if being champion of the world means exactly that - there is one world champion in the whole of boxing. When Ryan Burnett fought they thought it was a typo in the programme and that it must be an eliminator for Joshua.

Yeah the card wasn't exciting, but the amount of - Oh this is poo lets get a pint, lets go for a fag, I was hearing, even for Price vs Povetkin. Loads thought Bruno was Dillan White also.

I'll certainly never get the cheap seats again, not because of the view but because of the casuals - and quite possibly more than any sport, the casuals like to think they know everything about boxing.

Sometimes I dream I have a stamp
with “YDKSAB” (you don’t know sh*t about boxing) and permanently stamp it on the foreheads of such people who claim to be experts in the sport.

There’s nothing wrong with being a casual. But there’s definitely something wrong with being a casual and thinking you are an expert/ have expert opinion on boxing.

Tommyscc wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 10:26 My casual mate who’s a “big Joshua Fan”
Keeps telling me Joshua’s cannabis misdemeanour was during the Olympics itself

“How many minutes In a round” he asked Saturday while singing sweet Caroline

Honestly

maverick23 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 05:42 The friends I go to the boxing with (the last 3 AJ fights, his fight against Martin and loads of others over the last few years) only have a passing interest in boxing.

It’s a bit annoying having some of their questions but ultimately it’s these kind of fans that allow the big fights to happen.

If AJ could only sell a few thousand tickets and wouldn’t do many PPV buys then his fights with Martin, Klitschko, Parker wouldn’t have happened.

Stuarty wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 09:43 Most of my mates are casuals. I enjoy sitting watching fights with them and I've been to a few shows with them as well etc... They're not the type to ask daft questions and come away with outlandish statements. The sport needs casual fans.

Some of them can be torture to listen to right enough. There's nothing worse than listening to a causal who thinks they know it all because they've seen more than three fights in their life. Gets on my nipple ends.

Jackson328 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 10:49

maverick23 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 05:42 The friends I go to the boxing with (the last 3 AJ fights, his fight against Martin and loads of others over the last few years) only have a passing interest in boxing.

It’s a bit annoying having some of their questions but ultimately it’s these kind of fans that allow the big fights to happen.

If AJ could only sell a few thousand tickets and wouldn’t do many PPV buys then his fights with Martin, Klitschko, Parker wouldn’t have happened.

Stuarty wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 09:43 Most of my mates are casuals. I enjoy sitting watching fights with them and I've been to a few shows with them as well etc... They're not the type to ask daft questions and come away with outlandish statements. The sport needs casual fans.

Some of them can be torture to listen to right enough. There's nothing worse than listening to a causal who thinks they know it all because they've seen more than three fights in their life. Gets on my nipple ends.

Two good posts to sum it up really. I used to watch a lot of rugby league and the average attendance for my team was usually around the 10k mark but if they ever got to a big final at Old Trafford or Wembley there would be 40k plus clamouring for tickets and half of them would have no clue about the basic laws of the game. It helps create the atmosphere and fill the bigger venue though so its a necessary evil, if only the regular hard core fans could go the occasion would sink like a stone. My missus shows an occasional interest in some sports, she used to come to the pub with me and watch Eubank back in the day, she was the ultimate casual but it was great to me that she showed any interest at all. I've taken her to some live sporting occasions over the years and she usually enjoys the day out without committing to being a lifelong fan, just the way it is I suppose.

As people are saying in here, its when you get an obvious casual fan acting like an expert that it starts to grate but its often quite funny too. Some right clowns by us in the stadium last Saturday, proper AJ fan boys and screaming girls who up until the Price fight spent the whole card on the concourse getting bladdered. Some of these casual fans will eventually become more serious boxing fans however so for every event like this the sport will pick up a few more followers which is a good thing in the long run. I do find it hilarious when people have no idea about the weight divisions etc, one girl by us on Saturday stated that "Crolla would get battered by AJ"

SticknMove wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 11:55 I thought a casual was someone that wore pair a of farahs or wexmans with a nice colour co-ordinated gabicci.

Damn I getting old.

oogiebe wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 10:27

Tommyscc wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 10:26 My casual mate who’s a “big Joshua Fan”
Keeps telling me Joshua’s cannabis misdemeanour was during the Olympics itself

“How many minutes In a round” he asked Saturday while singing sweet Caroline

Honestly

LMAO!! Sometimes friends can by somewhat "trying"...

Tommyscc wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 12:32

oogiebe wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 10:27

Tommyscc wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 10:26 My casual mate who’s a “big Joshua Fan”
Keeps telling me Joshua’s cannabis misdemeanour was during the Olympics itself

“How many minutes In a round” he asked Saturday while singing sweet Caroline

Honestly

LMAO!! Sometimes friends can by somewhat "trying"...

I just let them enjoy it , it reminds me of
How prem football has gone tbf. Everyone wants a slice of it .

I am a Stoke Fan in a short space of time we went from 14,000 to 28,000 fans and soon to be 14,000 again

Stuarty wrote: ↑02 Apr 2018, 10:59
I was working along with this rocket a few months back who was trying to get all technical on why AJ would KO Fury. Seemed to all centre around how Fury beating Wlad was boring but AJ was exciting. He then said he's always been a fan. He loved Naz and Calzaghe and it was a shame they never fought His dad should've blown off in his mums hair the night he was conceived!

Covfefe wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 09:13

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 09:10

Covfefe wrote: ↑01 Apr 2018, 09:07

Who follows more than their own team properly though really?

I so rarely engage with premier league football these days since we were relegated. I might watch w big European game if it’s on, follow the FA Cup and still listen to the world football phone in. That’s the extent of my football these days.

Not me, I’m including myself in the ‘casual’ bracket here as well. But my dad & brother are examples of proper hardcore football fans, they can pretty much name every single player in the 92 club squads every year, and usually tell you quite a bit about each player. They can do the same for quite a few non-League teams too. They’re basically football anoraks, but I suppose that’s how casual boxing fans would think of us on here when we talk about Thai flyweights etc.

That really is in depth knowledge. I don’t think I could name every premier league manager these days. But I don’t even watch MOTD as the league doesn’t hold my interest without us in it.