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Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 20:01
by oogiebe
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 19:59
oogiebe wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 19:57
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 19:56 I bet you guys are British and AJ fans?

Anyways punch stats aren’t my opinion just facts
Which anyone can see if they watch fight.

I’m done .. Parker will win rematch anyway.
You are wrong....I am a Wilder fan since his bronze medal. I'm just a pragmatist.
Well after Wilder knocks out Joshua when he is forced to fight Parker he won’t be knocking out Parker so will lose decision .
OK!

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 20:04
by Stuarty
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 19:26
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 19:22
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 19:17 I’m not asking for the judges decision to be over turned i’m Just highlighting the fact that they were wrong .
YOU'RE wrong
I named the rounds Parker should have won. The compubox numbers don’t lie I checked them out.

There is no way in hell AJ won round 2 legit
Anyone who uses CompuBox to judge a fight needs to find another sport to watch! Try watching the rounds and forming your own opinions. Joshua won the fight. Not as wide as the inept judges had it but he clearly won. Get a grip and stop consulting CompuBox for scores! It's fuckin embarrassing!

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 20:10
by gilgamesh
Enlightened-One wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 19:57
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 19:47
Enlightened-One wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 19:43
Posts aren't opinions if the person making them are claiming them as being facts.

When someone is claiming that they're articulating an objective truth of reality (not an opinion), then they become a target for someone like myself that is a student of the game, who actually makes the effort to research the events that have actually transpired in the real world.

That's the way it's going to be from now on until someone either bans me or other people stop lying.
Nothing wrong with pointing out facts. But why are you acting as if I've insulted you? That's what I'm not getting.

In case you haven't noticed I've been disagreeing with Grailer's dumbass opinion throughout this thread. So...I mean what the f*ck dude. Do you WANT ME to have a problem with you? I don't get what you're doing here.
You said i was getting "eviscerated by the people who DO know what they're talking about when" I supposedly "post stupid sh*t."

Should I not be offended by that?
I never said any of those things to you. I was referring to Grailer when I made those comments. I was agreeing with you when I made those comments. The person that was getting eviscerated was Grailer, and more importantly I've already explained this to you once already.

I hope you understand your error now and will unbunch your panties.

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 20:12
by oogiebe
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:10
Enlightened-One wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 19:57
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 19:47

Nothing wrong with pointing out facts. But why are you acting as if I've insulted you? That's what I'm not getting.

In case you haven't noticed I've been disagreeing with Grailer's dumbass opinion throughout this thread. So...I mean what the f*ck dude. Do you WANT ME to have a problem with you? I don't get what you're doing here.
You said i was getting "eviscerated by the people who DO know what they're talking about when" I supposedly "post stupid sh*t."

Should I not be offended by that?
I never said any of those things to you. I was referring to Grailer when I made those comments. I was agreeing with you when I made those comments. The person that was getting eviscerated was Grailer, and more importantly I've already explained this to you once already.

I hope you understand your error now and will unbunch your panties.
I can get you a crowbar if you need it!

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 20:13
by gilgamesh
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 19:56 I bet you guys are British and AJ fans?

Anyways punch stats aren’t my opinion just facts
Which anyone can see if they watch fight.

I’m done .. Parker will win rematch anyway.
I'm American. I like AJ, but my opinion of a fighter doesn't affect my scoring of a bout. Never has, never will.

I doubt Parker will get a rematch with AJ without big wins. There certainly won't be a rematch anytime in the near future because nobody would want to see it.

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 20:18
by gilgamesh
I quoted you in the 1st page because I was agreeing with your point EO. I was saying that stupid posts get eviscerated by more knowledgeable posters. I wasn't saying that YOU specifically make stupid posts, I was talking about the forum in general with my comment. It wasn't directed at anyone in particular.

Jesus Tapdancing Christ. I've never had to explain the same situation so many goddamn times to an "Enlightened-One" before, and I hope we can avoid these types of misunderstandings in the future because it's exhausting :lol:

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 20:21
by Enlightened-One
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:10
Enlightened-One wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 19:57
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 19:47

Nothing wrong with pointing out facts. But why are you acting as if I've insulted you? That's what I'm not getting.

In case you haven't noticed I've been disagreeing with Grailer's dumbass opinion throughout this thread. So...I mean what the f*ck dude. Do you WANT ME to have a problem with you? I don't get what you're doing here.
You said i was getting "eviscerated by the people who DO know what they're talking about when" I supposedly "post stupid sh*t."

Should I not be offended by that?
I never said any of those things to you. I was referring to Grailer when I made those comments. I was agreeing with you when I made those comments. The person that was getting eviscerated was Grailer, and more importantly I've already explained this to you once already.

I hope you understand your error now and will unbunch your panties.
Apologies if I misinterpreted your words.

Your response was directed at me personally (and no one else) and I incorrectly thought that some of your criticisms were related to my behaviour rather than commenting on your thoughts of Grailer's opinions.

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 20:25
by Grailer
Stuarty wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:04
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 19:26
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 19:22

YOU'RE wrong
I named the rounds Parker should have won. The compubox numbers don’t lie I checked them out.

There is no way in hell AJ won round 2 legit
Anyone who uses CompuBox to judge a fight needs to find another sport to watch! Try watching the rounds and forming your own opinions. Joshua won the fight. Not as wide as the inept judges had it but he clearly won. Get a grip and stop consulting CompuBox for scores! It's fuckin embarrassing!
Inept Judges? These guys are professional boxing judges and you think you can do a better job than 3 professional boxing judges?

Compubox is just numbers , it isn’t biased , it doesn’t care about looks or style etc all it does it show what scoring punches land etc.

Key word: Scoring

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 20:27
by gilgamesh
I was just kinda commenting on the forum in general meaning that people who say stupid sh*t will be eviscerated by the more knowledgeable posters.

I was essentially saying that the forum has a tendency to work itself out that way that when people post stupid sh*t other people come along to call them on their stupid sh*t. That's all.

I can see how the way I worded it you could've taken it as a response aimed at you, and I'm sorry about causing that misunderstanding.

It's no big deal.

Just do me a favor. If we have a similar disagreement in the future. Hear me out before you get so defensive and jump down my throat :lol:

It's cool though. No worries :TU:

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 20:28
by gilgamesh
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:25

Inept Judges? These guys are professional boxing judges and you think you can do a better job than 3 professional boxing judges?

Compubox is just numbers , it isn’t biased , it doesn’t care about looks or style etc all it does it show what scoring punches land etc.

Key word: Scoring
Joshua LANDED MORE PUNCHES.

Even by compubox stats he won.

You look like a complete jackass so far in this thread.

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 20:29
by jamamb
lol im confused, grailers saying parker was robbed but is now defending the judges? um okay

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 20:42
by Grailer
jamamb wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:29 lol im confused, grailers saying parker was robbed but is now defending the judges? um okay
The judges were well paid professional boxing judges. Paid well by Eddie Hearn’s.

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 20:48
by Grailer
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:28
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:25

Inept Judges? These guys are professional boxing judges and you think you can do a better job than 3 professional boxing judges?

Compubox is just numbers , it isn’t biased , it doesn’t care about looks or style etc all it does it show what scoring punches land etc.

Key word: Scoring
Joshua LANDED MORE PUNCHES.

Even by compubox stats he won.

You look like a complete jackass so far in this thread.
Not saying you aren’t too bright but let me help you learn.

Boxing has rounds. It doesn’t matter if a boxer throws a million punches and wins 1 round but loses the other 11 rounds.

So break down each rounds punch stats and see Parker won 6 rounds.

School is out.

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 20:49
by gilgamesh
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:48

Not saying you aren’t too bright but let me help you learn.

Boxing has rounds. It doesn’t matter if a boxer throws a million punches and wins 1 round but loses the other 11 rounds.

So break down each rounds punch stats and see Parker won 6 rounds.

School is out.
You're right. School is out, and you failed.

If you land more punches, and win more rounds. You win the fight. That's how it works.

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 20:54
by Grailer
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:49
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:48

Not saying you aren’t too bright but let me help you learn.

Boxing has rounds. It doesn’t matter if a boxer throws a million punches and wins 1 round but loses the other 11 rounds.

So break down each rounds punch stats and see Parker won 6 rounds.

School is out.
You're right. School is out, and you failed.

If you land more punches, and win more rounds. You win the fight. That's how it works.
I’m surprised you didn’t know that it doesn’t matter how many total punches that land are thrown for entire fight but how many landed punches are thrown per round.

Like Parker landed more punches in round 2 and more power punches so he clearly should have won rd 2 but inept Judges scored otherwise somehow

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 20:56
by gilgamesh
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:54

I’m surprised you didn’t know that it doesn’t matter how many total punches that land are thrown for entire fight but how many landed punches are thrown per round.

Like Parker landed more punches in round 2 and more power punches so he clearly should have won rd 2 but inept Judges scored otherwise somehow
The hardest punch of Round 2 was a right hand to the body thrown by Joshua. Punch stats were basically even. The hardest punch of the round won Joshua the round IMO.

This isn't amateur boxing.

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 20:58
by Grailer
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:56
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:54

I’m surprised you didn’t know that it doesn’t matter how many total punches that land are thrown for entire fight but how many landed punches are thrown per round.

Like Parker landed more punches in round 2 and more power punches so he clearly should have won rd 2 but inept Judges scored otherwise somehow
The hardest punch of Round 2 was a right hand to the body thrown by Joshua. Punch stats were basically even. The hardest punch of the round won Joshua the round IMO.

This isn't amateur boxing.
Parker landed 5 to Joshua’s 3 power punches.

Watch closely again.

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 21:01
by gilgamesh
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:58
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:56
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:54

I’m surprised you didn’t know that it doesn’t matter how many total punches that land are thrown for entire fight but how many landed punches are thrown per round.

Like Parker landed more punches in round 2 and more power punches so he clearly should have won rd 2 but inept Judges scored otherwise somehow
The hardest punch of Round 2 was a right hand to the body thrown by Joshua. Punch stats were basically even. The hardest punch of the round won Joshua the round IMO.

This isn't amateur boxing.
Parker landed 5 to Joshua’s 3 power punches.

Watch closely again.
I saw it just fine the first time. Fight wasn't exciting enough to watch again just because some guy that really wishes Parker would've won didn't get what he wanted.

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 21:09
by Grailer
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 21:01
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:58
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:56

The hardest punch of Round 2 was a right hand to the body thrown by Joshua. Punch stats were basically even. The hardest punch of the round won Joshua the round IMO.

This isn't amateur boxing.
Parker landed 5 to Joshua’s 3 power punches.

Watch closely again.
I saw it just fine the first time. Fight wasn't exciting enough to watch again just because some guy that really wishes Parker would've won didn't get what he wanted.
Parker was winning that round easily for 2mins and 20 seconds, and you say that right Hand to body from Joshua which was countered by a right hand to Joshua’s head won Joshua the round?

I’ve studied fight for days round by round punch by punch so to be frank you aren’t really qualified to have a serious opinion.

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 21:11
by gilgamesh
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 21:09
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 21:01
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:58

Parker landed 5 to Joshua’s 3 power punches.

Watch closely again.
I saw it just fine the first time. Fight wasn't exciting enough to watch again just because some guy that really wishes Parker would've won didn't get what he wanted.
Parker was winning that round easily for 2mins and 20 seconds, and you say that right Hand to body from Joshua which was countered by a right hand to Joshua’s head won Joshua the round?

I’ve studied fight for days round by round punch by punch so to be frank you aren’t really qualified to have a serious opinion.
I know Boxing as well as anybody in the world. My opinion is as good as any you'll find.

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 21:13
by Grailer
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 21:11
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 21:09
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 21:01

I saw it just fine the first time. Fight wasn't exciting enough to watch again just because some guy that really wishes Parker would've won didn't get what he wanted.
Parker was winning that round easily for 2mins and 20 seconds, and you say that right Hand to body from Joshua which was countered by a right hand to Joshua’s head won Joshua the round?

I’ve studied fight for days round by round punch by punch so to be frank you aren’t really qualified to have a serious opinion.
I know Boxing as well as anybody in the world. My opinion is as good as any you'll find.
You are an advocate for corrupt officials in boxing in my opinion.

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 21:14
by gilgamesh
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 21:13
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 21:11
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 21:09

Parker was winning that round easily for 2mins and 20 seconds, and you say that right Hand to body from Joshua which was countered by a right hand to Joshua’s head won Joshua the round?

I’ve studied fight for days round by round punch by punch so to be frank you aren’t really qualified to have a serious opinion.
I know Boxing as well as anybody in the world. My opinion is as good as any you'll find.
You are an advocate for corrupt officials in boxing in my opinion.
How? You're the only person who has your opinion. Literally nobody else including Joseph Parker thinks that Joseph Parker was robbed.

Also I'm beginning to think you're a troll because I have a hard time believing a Boxing fan is this delusional about a result that was fairly obvious.

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 21:16
by Grailer
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 21:14
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 21:13
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 21:11

I know Boxing as well as anybody in the world. My opinion is as good as any you'll find.
You are an advocate for corrupt officials in boxing in my opinion.
How? You're the only person who has your opinion. Literally nobody else including Joseph Parker thinks that Joseph Parker was robbed.

Also I'm beginning to think you're a troll because I have a hard time believing a Boxing fan is this delusional about a result that was fairly obvious.
I posted the compubox stats , they are plain to see.

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 21:18
by gilgamesh
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 21:16
gilgamesh wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 21:14
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 21:13

You are an advocate for corrupt officials in boxing in my opinion.
How? You're the only person who has your opinion. Literally nobody else including Joseph Parker thinks that Joseph Parker was robbed.

Also I'm beginning to think you're a troll because I have a hard time believing a Boxing fan is this delusional about a result that was fairly obvious.
I posted the compubox stats , they are plain to see.
Yeah...Alright. Let me show you the way back under your bridge troll.

Re: Joseph Parker was robbed

Posted: 04 Apr 2018, 21:35
by Stuarty
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:25
Stuarty wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 20:04
Grailer wrote: 04 Apr 2018, 19:26

I named the rounds Parker should have won. The compubox numbers don’t lie I checked them out.

There is no way in hell AJ won round 2 legit
Anyone who uses CompuBox to judge a fight needs to find another sport to watch! Try watching the rounds and forming your own opinions. Joshua won the fight. Not as wide as the inept judges had it but he clearly won. Get a grip and stop consulting CompuBox for scores! It's fuckin embarrassing!
Inept Judges? These guys are professional boxing judges and you think you can do a better job than 3 professional boxing judges?

Compubox is just numbers , it isn’t biased , it doesn’t care about looks or style etc all it does it show what scoring punches land etc.

Key word: Scoring
I don't even know what to say to that. You're obviously too much of a retard to form your own opinion so rely on CompuBox, which isn't an exact science btw. But hey ho good luck to you if that's how you want to go about it :roll:

Anyone who uses CompuBox or 'punch stats' to score fights is a fuckin Lego muncher!