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Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 19:57
by tiny_acres
oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 19:52
tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 19:51
jamamb wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 19:43
theres all sorts of different supposed offers floating around, obviously there must be some bs going around then
From the million rumors floating around it's a flat rate of 8.8 million pounds
That doesn't sound very much like someone wants to fight.
I'll await my judgement until either of the team's confirm.
But this is the offer that is being published by large newspapers and sports channels.
And even the British paper said it was an insult
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 19:59
by oogiebe
tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 19:57
oogiebe wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 19:52
tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 19:51
From the million rumors floating around it's a flat rate of 8.8 million pounds
That doesn't sound very much like someone wants to fight.
I'll await my judgement until either of the team's confirm.
But this is the offer that is being published by large newspapers and sports channels.
And even the British paper said it was an insult
Chicken Bowe...er...I mean Chicken AJ, I mean...Chicken Hearn.
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:07
by jamamb
thats $12.5m
wlder got 2m for ortz
how much should wlder get
plus offers tend to start low anyway then go up. if an actual offer went out its at least a start
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:09
by tiny_acres
jamamb wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 20:07
thats $12.5m
wlder got 2m for ortz
how much should wlder get
plus offers tend to start low anyway then go up.
From quotes by Hearn it is take it or leave it offer.
No way will they accept it. Wilder can stay in the states and just continue as he has
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:10
by jamamb
accept it or leave it doesnt mean no new offers in the future. its how the process starts.
ya wlder can fght as he has been for 900 thousand-2m
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:12
by tiny_acres
jamamb wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 20:10
accept it or leave it doesnt mean no new offers in the future. its how the process starts.
ya wlder can fght as he has been for 900 thousand-2m
His win over Ortiz and high Showtime ratings will raise his value.
And yes take it or leave it means just that. This is the offer
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:14
by jamamb
no it doesnt mean no new offers wll be made. these thngs always happen and somethng new ends up being made in the end
maybe the ortz fght will rase deontays pay but no evidence so far that it has. certanly nothng close to 12.5m from the standard 1.4m hes got
how much should he get?
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:19
by tiny_acres
jamamb wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 20:14
no it doesnt mean no new offers wll be made. these thngs always happen and somethng new ends up being made in the end
maybe the ortz fght will rase deontays pay but no evidence so far that it has. certanly nothng close to 12.5m from the standard 1.4m hes got
how much should he get?
From all reports Parker made 33 1/3%
That should be the lowest offer.
A flat rate of £8.8 million on a fight that Hearn himself is an £80-100 million fight is a joke
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:21
by tiny_acres
I am really trying to postpone judgement until confirmed by either side.
But it's hard I have 100 articles popping up on my news feed stating the same numbers
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:23
by jamamb
lol a total pot split of 115-140m usd? seems way over the top
joe made about £ 7m i thought
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:24
by tiny_acres

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jamamb wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 20:23
lol a total pot split of 115-140m usd? seems way over the top
joe made about £ 7m i thought
Hearn's estimates himself
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:27
by jamamb
wlad-josh was around 40 and josh-joe was around 35
no idea how this would be so much more. sounds promoter hype. and of course youve been so fast to discredt hearn
lol is fury a half a billion fght then

Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:29
by tiny_acres
jamamb wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 20:27
wlad-josh was around 40 and josh-joe was around 35
no idea how this would be so much more. sounds promoter hype. and of course youve been so fast to discredt hearn
lol is fury a half a billion fght then
This would be the biggest fight that can be made today.
Can you agree or disagree
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:32
by jamamb
could be but not at all a 115-140m usd fght. thats outrageous. have a read of what there prevous fghts have done.
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:33
by tiny_acres
jamamb wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 20:32
could be but not at all a 115-140m usd fght. thats outrageous. have a read of what there prevous fghts have done.
How many us Ppv will this fight have?
What's your estimate
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:34
by jamamb
maybe low hundred thousands if it happens next
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:35
by tiny_acres
jamamb wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 20:34
maybe low hundred thousands if it happens next
1.5 million plus are again Hearns estimates
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:36
by jamamb
tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 20:35
jamamb wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 20:34
maybe low hundred thousands if it happens next
1.5 million plus are again Hearns estimates
crazy..aj doesnt do good numbers at all there and wlder does around 1m NOT on ppv. lol hes gonna go from 1m on showtme to 1.5 on ppv?
canelo and ggg are together way bgger in the us and they 'only' did 1.3
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:38
by jamamb
lol deontay gettng a 40 percent splt of the suggested 100m+ pot would be around 50-60m
no chance man!
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:41
by tiny_acres
jamamb wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 20:36
tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 20:35
jamamb wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 20:34
maybe low hundred thousands if it happens next
1.5 million plus are again Hearns estimates
crazy..aj doesnt do good numbers at all there and wlder does around 1m NOT on ppv. lol hes gonna go from 1m on showtme to 1.5 on ppv?
canelo and ggg are together way bgger in the us and they 'only' did 1.3
What is more attractive to an American audiences than a heavyweight unification between 2 guys who are no machines?
2 guys who genuinely do not like each other.
If promoted correctly it will sell like hotcakes.
And no matter how much I dislike Hearn he is a promotional genius
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:43
by tiny_acres
jamamb wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 20:38
lol deontay gettng a 40 percent splt of the suggested 100m+ pot would be around 50-60m
no chance man!
So let's say it is 80 million dollar fight which is the low end of Hearn estimate.
You think it's fair wilder to get 12 compared to Joshua 60 million?
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:45
by jamamb
yet they already are both hw machines and there us numbers arent anythng close to 1.5m ppv level
get with the times. hw boxng aint that much of a deal in the us no more. the bggest draws of recent years have been smaller guy such as manny floyd oscar and canelo
canelo does way way way bgger us fgures then wlder and aj ....and ggg does around the same level as deontay...yet there fght 'only' did 1.3m ppv
to come anywhere close to 1.5m ppv in the us a lot more buildng would need to be done..includng aj fightng in the us before.
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:46
by jamamb
perspectve:
wlder gettng 40 percent of this supposedly gargantuan pot would mean he earns more then aj and wlad dd combine for there fght.
no way! its not THAT big of a fight
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:47
by tiny_acres
jamamb wrote: ↑10 Apr 2018, 20:46
perspectve:
wlder gettng 40 percent of this supposedly gargantuan pot would mean he earns more then aj and wlad dd combine for there fght?
no way!
It's a different fight. What they made in a previous fights doesn't matter.
This is a bigger fight than those
Re: AJ's Great Offer
Posted: 10 Apr 2018, 20:50
by jamamb
nowhere near several times financially bgger then aj vs wlad. and both aj and wlad already made far more then wlder going into that. wlad was earnng around 10m a fght already
total pot of 115m-140m? no
1.4m usd to suddenly 50m usd? simply no.
1.5m us ppv now? no
how can you be so sceptcal of hearn but then buy that nonsense?