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Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 14 Apr 2018, 20:49
by oogiebe
Wales wrote: ↑14 Apr 2018, 20:47
oogiebe wrote: ↑14 Apr 2018, 20:39
tiny_acres wrote: ↑14 Apr 2018, 20:36
Yep Germany
I still feel they're either afraid of Povetkins past or they are hiding something
That's because everything is nonsensical. I get it. I'm bored with the hyperbole and want a fight.
To be fair to AJ he’s been a very active champion averaging a fight every 4 months since his first world title fight. So I don’t think we’ll have to wait long before his next fight is announced
That is true. He has been relatively active. That is a positive, isn't it.
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 14 Apr 2018, 21:00
by Wales
oogiebe wrote: ↑14 Apr 2018, 20:46
Wales wrote: ↑14 Apr 2018, 20:44
punchoutsb wrote: ↑14 Apr 2018, 20:11
Klitschko and Fury took place in Germany.
Did indeed , it was just a reference to maybe add weight to the Browne allegations .
In reality the reason Hearn won’t want the fight staged by Povetkins team in Russia is he won’t be making a kings ransom hosting it himself in the U.K.
Hearn and AJ can make silly money fighting any HW they can portray as credible in the U.K. whether he holds the WBA strap or not. Be a shame as it’d be great for Wilder and AJ to fight for ALL the belts. Not had a HW champ with all the belts since Lewis have we
Pretty much! Hearn's a thievin' pig
Maybe, but he’s put on some great fights and UK fight fans would do well to remember the long list of uninspiring “title” fights other promoters served up when they were in a position of power.
Ricky Hatton was a huge star yet went 38-0 before fighting a top 10 light welterweight.
Hearn had AJ a world title fight in his 16th pro fight. Brook has been in with GGG and Spence Jnr. Many picked Makabu over Bellew and few gave Bellew a chance against Haye. McDonnell will fight Inoue next.
That’s what we want to see. British fighters, win lose or draw, tested against the best.
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 14 Apr 2018, 21:06
by Wales
punchoutsb wrote: ↑14 Apr 2018, 20:49
Wales wrote: ↑14 Apr 2018, 20:44
punchoutsb wrote: ↑14 Apr 2018, 20:11
Klitschko and Fury took place in Germany.
Did indeed , it was just a reference to maybe add weight to the Browne allegations .
In reality the reason Hearn won’t want the fight staged by Povetkins team in Russia is he won’t be making a kings ransom hosting it himself in the U.K.
Hearn and AJ can make silly money fighting any HW they can portray as credible in the U.K. whether he holds the WBA strap or not. Be a shame as it’d be great for Wilder and AJ to fight for ALL the belts. Not had a HW champ with all the belts since Lewis have we
Ah ok, I wasn't sure (and still am not really) what a Ukrainian vs an Irishman in Germany has to do with an Australians claims against an Uzbek in Russia but at this point it doesn't matter because you are 100% correct with the reason behind Hearns words.
Hearn wants to be the promoter and make the money. Obviously he won't get this if Povetkins people win it.
Exactly. His promotional company is making a shed load of money every 4 months at the moment. If AJ loses on a Hearn show he has a couple million quid as a sweetener . Different kettle of fish If AJ loses on someone else’s show and Hearn makes nothing .
AJ losing would be a hard pill to swallow. But a couple million would make that pill slide down the throat a bit easier .
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 14 Apr 2018, 22:06
by Ilya Muromets
"sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !"
Ha ha! I'm not the kind of guy who says i told you so but i told you so!
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 02:06
by asdfjkl
tiny_acres wrote: ↑14 Apr 2018, 18:08
asdfjkl wrote: ↑14 Apr 2018, 17:49
Sounds like fake news to me, if this is true, Povetkin his team simply says "we offer 100m", the belt will be thrown away and Povetkin can pick it up for free.
Povetkin doesn't take doping and I would be surprised if AJ does.
I mean AJ his body looks just like mine, you really barely have to train for that.
For the retards that don't realise, that was a joke
On top of that I think AJ would gladly go to Russia and the fight would be too big to cheat for Povetkin. I even think Povetkin sees it as his last payday. Too bad his carreer got destroyed by the World Boxing Corruption poo, Wilder should still pay him 80 milion because of his smear campagn.
So you're 17 and built like AJ?????
Pics and proof or you're more of a fuckin liar than I already thought
Read my post:
"For the retards that don't realise, that was a joke"
Also, I'm not 17, no clue where you got that from.
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 04:11
by candyslim
Hearn doesn't make too many mistakes. I think the threat to drop the belt is a warning to Povetkin (Ryabinski) not to try to force the location issue. As Riddick has astutely pointed out, facing anyone else in Moscow for the vacant title will be for peanuts compared to AJ in London.
I don't believe Hearn or AJ are worried about facing Povetkin, but rightly or wrongly, fighting in Russia is perceived as involving an element of risk over and above anything relating to Povetkin's abilities.
I'm not saying Hearn is bluffing, but Joshua is in the process of collecting all the belts, so dropping one at this stage (before achieving the goal of becoming undisputed champion) is not a path they really want to go down. It devalues the Wilder fight if it cannot be labelled as being for the undisputed title and that is where team Joshua's main focus is directed. This Povetkin mandatory is a double edged sword because Hearn can use it to concentrate team Wilder's attention on agreeing the financials in a restricted time-frame, but on the other hand it's a distraction, and also means that the unification pot will be reduced by whatever step-aside money has to be paid to Povetkin.
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 15:58
by bigman1968
WBA will not let their belt to leave Joshua’s waist no matter what!!!
3% sanction fees from his fight will not let them do so-)))
Trust the ABC guys...they’ll find some creative way...something like - New Diamond Super Duper Megachampionship belt for Joshua...
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 16:02
by oogiebe
bigman1968 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 15:58
WBA will not let their belt to leave Joshua’s waist no matter what!!!
3% sanction fees from his fight will not let them do so-)))
Trust the ABC guys...they’ll find some creative way...something like - New Diamond Super Duper Megachampionship belt for Joshua...
IDK...AJ and his team are in a commanding position and I'm sure the WBA doesn't like it, fees or not. They (the WBA) can make a ton on a tourney if they decide to strip AJ. In addition, AJ's WBA belt is for superheavyweight, as Charr owns the standard WBA heavyweight title, which is an altogether different 'stupid' occurrence.
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 20:51
by Ilya Muromets
I told you before my prediction if Joshua fights Vityaz man, it will be V Man by 1st round ko. But i also told you before that i doubted they'd ever let either of the USSA or the USSK's two preciouses fight the big bad Russian, and certainly not someplace where they can't use their own bought and paid for referee, judges, ring builders, announcers, compuscore scorers, alphabet gangs, mafia drug test crews, drunk fans, all the comfortable accoutrements with which the western boxing mobsters have become accustomed.
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 15 Apr 2018, 21:58
by asdfjkl
It will be an exiting fight and the Russians will be easy to nagotiate with, like they have allways been. They don't set traps, like Americans do, they don't cheat, like Americans do, Povetkin will fight AJ in his own backyard.
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 01:03
by Kalan
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 01:21
by bigman1968
asdfjkl wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 21:58
It will be an exiting fight and the Russians will be easy to nagotiate with, like they have allways been. They don't set traps, like Americans do, they don't cheat, like Americans do, Povetkin will fight AJ in his own backyard.
Never negotiated with Russians, I presume-)))
I presume you never negotiated business with anyone...
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 01:29
by Kalan
YOU'VE never negotiated with Russians... That's a cinch... They're honorable business people.
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 02:12
by Ilya Muromets
asdfjkl wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 21:58
It will be an exiting fight and the Russians will be easy to nagotiate with, like they have allways been. They don't set traps, like Americans do, they don't cheat, like Americans do, Povetkin will fight AJ in his own backyard.
They won't let Joshua fight him, and we've already seen the machinations that Wilder and his handlers did to get out of it. If they let their respective two
preciouses fight Povetkin, even rigged up with their own phony crooked refs and judges etc., I'll eat my hat.
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 02:32
by Luis Fernando12
Anthony Joshua has practically NO / ZERO REAL / GENUINE knockout power! He has never knocked out a single opponent unconscious. I mean, LITERALLY unconscious. His knockout record is literally just a manufactured marketing product. Which consists of numerous premature, nonsensical and BS British stoppages. Even someone with a suspect chin in Wladimir Klitschko who was brutalized in 2 rounds by Corrie Sanders, managed to stay standing after eating the most powerful uppercut Joshua could throw and Joshua also had to cheat to land that uppercut by pulling down Wladimir Klitschko's head which multiplied the damage. Yet, Joshua still needed to push Wlad to the ground to get the knockdown because his power is grossly overrated and wasn't enough to directly drop Wlad.
Deontay Wilder is going to totally butcher Anthony Joshua. It'd be close to a mismatch! Wilder is a GENUINE knockout artist with GENUINE knockout power, unlike Anthony Joshua. He is able to put his opponents to sleep and into a state of unconsciousness unlike Anthony Joshua. Joshua is practically a feather fisted girl, if compared to Wilder when it comes to punching power.
Joshua is barely going to KO any elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT legitimately and concussively. He will mainly do so through the help of referees.
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 02:53
by candyslim
This is the guy who thought Povetkin was too small to trouble Price. Now he thinks Joshua can't punch and is reliant on referees for his 95% stoppage ratio. Well it's an opinion I guess.
You're going to need a lot more BLOCK CAPITALS before I'm convinced by your argument
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 03:06
by Luis Fernando12
I didn't claim Povetkin was 'too small' to trouble Price. I claimed Povetkin was 'too small' to trouble a peak conditioned David Price. Price was anything but at peak physical and mental condition against Povetkin.
What has Povetkin having almost no chance at beating elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS, got to do with Anthony Joshua FACTUALLY and EVIDENTLY lacking GENUINE / REAL knockout power? Wladimir Klitschko and Deontay Wilder are concussive knockout artists. Joshua isn't and is a relative feather fist compared to them. Who has Joshua ever KO'ed like how Wilder KO'ed Artur Szpilka or Siarrhei Liakovich? Who has Joshua ever KO'ed like how Wladimir Klitschko KO'ed Eddie Chambers and Phil Jackson? Exactly! My point and argument is driven home!
Like in previous fights, I can't see Joshua actually KNOCKING OUT (not prematurely stopping through the help of referees) Deontay Wilder. I don't think he has the power to do so. He arguably has the most overrated punching power in boxing history. At least as far as the heavyweight division is concerned.
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 03:17
by vostok
Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑14 Apr 2018, 10:57
Not interested in that fight whatsoever to begin with. Joshua should go his own way and fight real elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS. Rather than waste time on irrelevant, small, tiny and midget heavyweights the size of little insects that he could just step on and squash like a little bug. Good thing for Povetkin's health if he avoids fighting big monstrous Joshua.
World title belts don't really mean much. Who one beats is more important than what belt or how many belts one owns.
What was your opinion&prediction for
Povetkin vs. Price..?
Just curious...
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 03:35
by Bard of Boxrec
Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 02:32
Anthony Joshua has practically NO / ZERO REAL / GENUINE knockout power! He has never knocked out a single opponent unconscious. I mean, LITERALLY unconscious. His knockout record is literally just a manufactured marketing product. Which consists of numerous premature, nonsensical and BS British stoppages. Even someone with a suspect chin in Wladimir Klitschko who was brutalized in 2 rounds by Corrie Sanders, managed to stay standing after eating the most powerful uppercut Joshua could throw and Joshua also had to cheat to land that uppercut by pulling down Wladimir Klitschko's head which multiplied the damage. Yet, Joshua still needed to push Wlad to the ground to get the knockdown because his power is grossly overrated and wasn't enough to directly drop Wlad.
Deontay Wilder is going to totally butcher Anthony Joshua. It'd be close to a mismatch! Wilder is a GENUINE knockout artist with GENUINE knockout power, unlike Anthony Joshua. He is able to put his opponents to sleep and into a state of unconsciousness unlike Anthony Joshua. Joshua is practically a feather fisted girl, if compared to Wilder when it comes to punching power.
Joshua is barely going to KO any elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT legitimately and concussively. He will mainly do so through the help of referees.
Please stop posting.
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 03:43
by asdfjkl
bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 01:21
asdfjkl wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 21:58
It will be an exiting fight and the Russians will be easy to nagotiate with, like they have allways been. They don't set traps, like Americans do, they don't cheat, like Americans do, Povetkin will fight AJ in his own backyard.
Never negotiated with Russians, I presume-)))
I presume you never negotiated business with anyone...
You should nagotiate with Chinese! Russians are easy and it's easy to make money in Russia.
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 03:45
by asdfjkl
x2x wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 02:12
asdfjkl wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 21:58
It will be an exiting fight and the Russians will be easy to nagotiate with, like they have allways been. They don't set traps, like Americans do, they don't cheat, like Americans do, Povetkin will fight AJ in his own backyard.
They won't let Joshua fight him, and we've already seen the machinations that Wilder and his handlers did to get out of it. If they let their respective two
preciouses fight Povetkin, even rigged up with their own phony crooked refs and judges etc., I'll eat my hat.
They will, they also let him on the undercard for a reason
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 03:49
by bigman1968
asdfjkl wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 03:43
bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 01:21
asdfjkl wrote: ↑15 Apr 2018, 21:58
It will be an exiting fight and the Russians will be easy to nagotiate with, like they have allways been. They don't set traps, like Americans do, they don't cheat, like Americans do, Povetkin will fight AJ in his own backyard.
Never negotiated with Russians, I presume-)))
I presume you never negotiated business with anyone...
You should nagotiate with Chinese! Russians are easy and it's easy to make money in Russia.
Made any money in Russia?
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 03:57
by candyslim
Luis Fernando12 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 03:06
I didn't claim Povetkin was 'too small' to trouble Price. I claimed Povetkin was 'too small' to trouble a peak conditioned David Price. Price was anything but at peak physical and mental condition against Povetkin.
What has Povetkin having almost no chance at beating elite SUPER HEAVYWEIGHTS, got to do with Anthony Joshua FACTUALLY and EVIDENTLY lacking GENUINE / REAL knockout power? Wladimir Klitschko and Deontay Wilder are concussive knockout artists. Joshua isn't and is a relative feather fist compared to them. Who has Joshua ever KO'ed like how Wilder KO'ed Artur Szpilka or Siarrhei Liakovich? Who has Joshua ever KO'ed like how Wladimir Klitschko KO'ed Eddie Chambers and Phil Jackson? Exactly! My point and argument is driven home!
Like in previous fights, I can't see Joshua actually KNOCKING OUT (not prematurely stopping through the help of referees) Deontay Wilder. I don't think he has the power to do so. He arguably has the most overrated punching power in boxing history. At least as far as the heavyweight division is concerned.
Price was in the best physical and mental condition that he had been in for some time. That's not saying much I know. I'd have expected you to be fully aware of his fragility before making your assessment of his chances against Povetkin, but it seems not.
For the record I think Deontay Wilder is the hardest hitter in boxing today, harder than Joshua yes. It seems to me that's like say my camera takes better pictures because it has a shutter speed of 1/4000 whereas yours is only 1/3750. What I mean is Joshua hits quite hard enough to get the job done, see that shot that finished Dillian Whyte if you doubt his power. I accept that he is more of an accumulation puncher than a one shot knock out artist, but your claim that he is reliant on referees is utter bollocks which I'm beginning to think is a specialty of yours.
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 04:02
by asdfjkl
bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 03:49
asdfjkl wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 03:43
bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 01:21
Never negotiated with Russians, I presume-)))
I presume you never negotiated business with anyone...
You should nagotiate with Chinese! Russians are easy and it's easy to make money in Russia.
Made any money in Russia?
Father of a friend of mine became a milionair thanks to them.
Re: sounds like AJ will give up WBA title if SASHA wins purse bid --- HEARN !
Posted: 16 Apr 2018, 04:09
by bigman1968
asdfjkl wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 04:02
bigman1968 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 03:49
asdfjkl wrote: ↑16 Apr 2018, 03:43
You should nagotiate with Chinese! Russians are easy and it's easy to make money in Russia.
Made any money in Russia?
Father of a friend of mine became a milionair thanks to them.
And he shared details with 15 yo kid?
AJ has a family.