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Re: Tony Bellew
Posted: 06 May 2018, 15:40
by lillywhite14
BitPlayer wrote: ↑06 May 2018, 12:59
I wonder how the board would react if Bellew somehow beat Usyk.
Probably say Usyyk was a hype job and hadn't beaten anyone that good.
That would be an incredible win.
I get the sneaky feeling Gassiev is winning the WBSS though. Bellew cannot beat either anyway, nor Breidis or Dorticos imo.
Re: Tony Bellew
Posted: 06 May 2018, 16:12
by gilgamesh
BitPlayer wrote: ↑06 May 2018, 12:59
I wonder how the board would react if Bellew somehow beat Usyk.
Probably say Usyyk was a hype job and hadn't beaten anyone that good.
It'd be silly to pretend as if Usyk were a hype job following a loss. He's already proven he's more than just hype.
Re: Tony Bellew
Posted: 06 May 2018, 16:28
by Mimmy
I think too much is being made of Bellew by fighting a heavyweight that hasnt fought a decent opponent in over 5 years.
Bellew has capitolised in that fact
Re: Tony Bellew
Posted: 06 May 2018, 16:32
by gilgamesh
Mimmy wrote: ↑06 May 2018, 16:28
I think too much is being made of Bellew by fighting a heavyweight that hasnt fought a decent opponent in over 5 years.
Bellew has capitolised in that fact
The injury ridden Haye certainly wasn't the best representation of the David we used to see or Tony's chances against other, more natural Heavyweights who aren't so ridden with injury, but like I say the wins for Bellew are still bigger achievements than most Heavyweights can currently claim.
This isn't to say they aren't CAPABLE of achieving more, but most of them still got it to do. I don't rank people based on assuming they could do something, I rank them off of having SEEN them do something.
Re: Tony Bellew
Posted: 06 May 2018, 16:44
by Mimmy
gilgamesh wrote: ↑06 May 2018, 16:32
Mimmy wrote: ↑06 May 2018, 16:28
I think too much is being made of Bellew by fighting a heavyweight that hasnt fought a decent opponent in over 5 years.
Bellew has capitolised in that fact
The injury ridden Haye certainly wasn't the best representation of the David we used to see or Tony's chances against other, more natural Heavyweights who aren't so ridden with injury, but like I say the wins for Bellew are still bigger achievements than most Heavyweights can currently claim.
This isn't to say they aren't CAPABLE of achieving more, but most of them still got it to do. I don't rank people based on assuming they could do something, I rank them off of having SEEN them do something.
I wouldnt dispute that Bellew a cruiser hasnt done good beating Haye, another cruiser on 2 occasions. Thats how i see those achievements.
I dont think anyone would dispute the fact that todays current heavyweight division isnt a high bar division that it was say 15 to 20 years ago. Of course you can only beat who is top in this era but i dont get too excited that Bellew has beaten Haye twice.