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jamamb wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 23:48 ward slamming trenko and calling him a quitter!

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 04:39

Jon Mark wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 01:12

jamamb wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 01:06 maybe but surely applying the logic of ortz now appearing better because of jenns w tonght leads to whyte and aj havng had an even bgger boost....since they beat a guy who destroyed dim w/o any of the issues jenn had...such as getting dropped and losing other rounds

At some point the eye test has to be used. There is no one in the heavyweight division with the skill of Ortiz. What hurts him is his late arrival on the big stage. He fought valiantly verse Wilder, and I think he’d be just as likely to win against any of the top fighters as they would against him.

You what mate?

Alexander Povetkin is an Olympic gold medalist. By the way, he had so much skills, he looked like crap against Malik Scott and David Allen.

candyslim wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 06:18 Agreed. I like Bryant and I believe he could be a force in the division were he not at such a physical disadvantage against the top guys.. Sadly that isn't something he can do anything about.

Jon Mark wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 14:54

Povetkin is skilled, but slow and comes straight forward. Ortiz has the ability to move which sets him apart from Povetkin.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 15:57 I used to think so, but he just doesn't seem to have the fire needed to be a top fighter. I think he has the ability, but he's just not a natural enough fighter. I think he's a guy that would potentially lose some fights that he COULD win just because he ain't doing enough.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 15:57

candyslim wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 06:18 Agreed. I like Bryant and I believe he could be a force in the division were he not at such a physical disadvantage against the top guys.. Sadly that isn't something he can do anything about.

I used to think so, but he just doesn't seem to have the fire needed to be a top fighter. I think he has the ability, but he's just not a natural enough fighter. I think he's a guy that would potentially lose some fights that he COULD win just because he ain't doing enough.

ElJefe wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 16:31 Just watched the fight. Dimitrenko really doesn't react well when pressured. Zero inside game. Jennings is a decent fighter but given that he's giving up physical advantages to a lot of other heavyweights he really needs to fight with a bit more urgency. He has a habit of neglecting his jab and also has a habit of throwing single shots and leaving his head in the middle. John David Jackson needs to iron out those flaws and teach him how to keep his hands free and work on the inside. He did some good work up close but also allowed himself to be held too much. Despite those physical disadvantages, so many HWs are so poor inside that he could be effective just by doing the basics well when he's up close and staying out of harms way on the outside.

Wouldn't mind seeing him in with Trevor Bryan for that WBA belt, or the likes of Breazeale, Kownacki or Ruiz. Even a Washington or Molina would be OK to keep him busy.