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Re: Fury v Wilder Las Vegas December 2018......
Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 02:36
by keithmoonhangover
Wouldn't surprise me if Fury fails a PED test for this fight.
Re: Fury v Wilder Las Vegas December 2018......
Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 03:26
by Wa1nuts
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 02:36
Wouldn't surprise me if Fury fails a PED test for this fight.
Why?
Re: Fury v Wilder Las Vegas December 2018......
Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 03:40
by tobyh5
I have always fancied a Vegas fight weekend and this would be a good craic but I would not even want to spend money on a hotel in the UK for a Fury fight with his history for pull outs and erratic personality (ironic he calls Haye a Shithouse for pulling out).
Re: Fury v Wilder Las Vegas December 2018......
Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 05:46
by keithmoonhangover
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 03:26
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 02:36
Wouldn't surprise me if Fury fails a PED test for this fight.
Why?
Errrr... because he's failed one before.
Re: Fury v Wilder Las Vegas December 2018......
Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 05:48
by keithmoonhangover
tobyh5 wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 03:40
I have always fancied a Vegas fight weekend and this would be a good craic but I would not even want to spend money on a hotel in the UK for a Fury fight with his history for pull outs and erratic personality (ironic he calls Haye a Shithouse for pulling out).
I feel exactly the same. It would be an amazing fight to go to, but there are a number of reasons why it might be cancelled.
Re: Fury v Wilder Las Vegas December 2018......
Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 08:15
by Wa1nuts
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 05:46
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 03:26
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 02:36
Wouldn't surprise me if Fury fails a PED test for this fight.
Why?
Errrr... because he's failed one before.
I wouldn't be surprised if he passes a PED test. Because he's passed them before
Re: Fury v Wilder Las Vegas December 2018......
Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 11:01
by Ricky
I think Wilder knocks Fury out.
Fury has been out for so long and done himself no favours with his choice of opponents. He may aswell have stuck to sparring tbh.
Stylistically i think Wilder is wrong for Fury. Fury's biggest asset is keeping his distance with the jab, but Wilder has an amazing ability to land huge bombs from distance. I often think his opponents get caught out by think they are out of range only to get hit by a windmilling slingshot of a hook. I think that at some point in the first 4 or 5 rounds Wilder will land something meaningful on TF's questionable chin.
Re: Fury v Wilder Las Vegas December 2018......
Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 12:32
by keithmoonhangover
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 08:15
I wouldn't be surprised if he passes a PED test. Because he's passed them before
So he might pass, but he might fail. We're in agreement.
Re: Fury v Wilder Las Vegas December 2018......
Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 13:41
by jonnyyorkshu
RKY wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 11:01
I think Wilder knocks Fury out.
Fury has been out for so long and done himself no favours with his choice of opponents. He may aswell have stuck to sparring tbh.
Stylistically i think Wilder is wrong for Fury. Fury's biggest asset is keeping his distance with the jab, but Wilder has an amazing ability to land huge bombs from distance. I often think his opponents get caught out by think they are out of range only to get hit by a windmilling slingshot of a hook. I think that at some point in the first 4 or 5 rounds Wilder will land something meaningful on TF's questionable chin.
X2
Re: Fury v Wilder Las Vegas December 2018......
Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 14:26
by Wa1nuts
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 12:32
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 08:15
I wouldn't be surprised if he passes a PED test. Because he's passed them before
So he might pass, but he might fail. We're in agreement.
Pretty much ha
Re: Fury v Wilder Las Vegas December 2018......
Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 14:28
by keithmoonhangover
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 14:26
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 12:32
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 08:15
I wouldn't be surprised if he passes a PED test. Because he's passed them before
So he might pass, but he might fail. We're in agreement.
Pretty much ha
I hope the fight does go ahead. I'm going if it does.
Re: Fury v Wilder Las Vegas December 2018......
Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 14:32
by gilgamesh
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 14:28
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 14:26
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 12:32
So he might pass, but he might fail. We're in agreement.
Pretty much ha
I hope the fight does go ahead. I'm going if it does.
I'd wait until close to the time of the fight to fly in. With Fury there's a good chance the fight will fall through whether a contract is signed or not.
Re: Fury v Wilder Las Vegas December 2018......
Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 14:36
by keithmoonhangover
gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 14:32
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 14:28
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 14:26
Pretty much ha
I hope the fight does go ahead. I'm going if it does.
I'd wait until close to the time of the fight to fly in. With Fury there's a good chance the fight will fall through whether a contract is signed or not.
That's the concern, although a weekend in Vegas does have a certain amount of appeal.
I've asked kevo's ma to accompany me, but she's not answering me texts.
Re: Fury v Wilder Las Vegas December 2018......
Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 14:38
by gilgamesh
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 14:36
gilgamesh wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 14:32
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 14:28
I hope the fight does go ahead. I'm going if it does.
I'd wait until close to the time of the fight to fly in. With Fury there's a good chance the fight will fall through whether a contract is signed or not.
That's the concern, although a weekend in Vegas does have a certain amount of appeal.
I've asked kevo's ma to accompany me, but she's not answering me texts.
ouch
Re: Fury v Wilder Las Vegas December 2018......
Posted: 12 Aug 2018, 00:17
by Wales
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 12:32
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 08:15
I wouldn't be surprised if he passes a PED test. Because he's passed them before
So he might pass, but he might fail. We're in agreement.
Might pass might fail. Same as last time.
They took 16 months to charge him then another 17 months to conclude they simply couldn’t decide if he had or he hadn’t.
The Fury’s accepted a 2 year backdated ban to put it all to bed .
Thus far Ukad has not explained how it took so long first to charge and then to become beached in compromise – other than making a reference to “result management” issues – or why it also dropped the case against Tyson Fury over an alleged missed drugs test in September 2016.
Ukad said: “The anti-doping rule violations it has asserted have been committed and the consequences set out in the UK Anti-Doping Rules should apply. Tyson and Hughie Fury’s position is that they have never knowingly or deliberately committed any antidoping rule violation.”
“In recognition of the respective counter-arguments and the risks inherent in the dispute resolution process, each side has accepted a compromise of its position.”
Hardly conclusive
Re: Fury v Wilder Las Vegas December 2018......
Posted: 12 Aug 2018, 09:20
by keithmoonhangover
Wales wrote: ↑12 Aug 2018, 00:17
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 12:32
Wa1nuts wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 08:15
I wouldn't be surprised if he passes a PED test. Because he's passed them before
So he might pass, but he might fail. We're in agreement.
Might pass might fail. Same as last time.
They took 16 months to charge him then another 17 months to conclude they simply couldn’t decide if he had or he hadn’t.
The Fury’s accepted a 2 year backdated ban to put it all to bed .
Thus far Ukad has not explained how it took so long first to charge and then to become beached in compromise – other than making a reference to “result management” issues – or why it also dropped the case against Tyson Fury over an alleged missed drugs test in September 2016.
Ukad said: “The anti-doping rule violations it has asserted have been committed and the consequences set out in the UK Anti-Doping Rules should apply. Tyson and Hughie Fury’s position is that they have never knowingly or deliberately committed any antidoping rule violation.”
“In recognition of the respective counter-arguments and the risks inherent in the dispute resolution process, each side has accepted a compromise of its position.”
Hardly conclusive
Drug cheats not admitting to doping. Wow, that's a first.
Re: Fury v Wilder Las Vegas December 2018......
Posted: 12 Aug 2018, 15:25
by sweetscience
love go vegas for this fight
but December is hard work getting to vegas, very few flight from Manchester
+ baby due end of month
Id like it be in may
Re: Fury v Wilder Las Vegas December 2018......
Posted: 12 Aug 2018, 17:09
by Grilling Machine
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑12 Aug 2018, 09:20Drug cheats not admitting to doping. Wow, that's a first.
Not many do, but I respect Chambers for holding his hands up. We need to go all-in with bio passports or permit PEDs now, because virtually every athlete's on something.
Some people react far more to PEDs than others, but that unfairness is also naturally occurring. In arguing against PEDs, I once read of a gifted powerlifter with minimal gains from PEDs, versus a rival who equalled him on gear despite being well behind naturally.
I think the problem with bio passports is that you can't implement them without pulling down the curtain. Sure, you could assign a date, so that all outgoing dopers could cease or retire, but then 100m times'd return to flat 10s and give the game away. Marathons'd rise +5m, and so on.