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jamamb wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 19:02

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 18:49

jamamb wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 16:44

lol you can easily find plenty of stuff to like people saying hopkins would school him (an espn media poll even had hopkins favoured 13-12), or hed hardly win a round vs ward (ward was fav both fights too), or even clev would beat him. he actually surpassed many expectations

nice thread bumping now, grow the f@ck up

are you a black or mexican guy offended by his racism? maybe then i can understand!

Did many people really think Hopkins had a chance against Kovalev? I thought the consensus - quite rightly - was that Kovalev was gonna destroy him?

majority opinion was that kovalev would win, but i mustve seen 100+ predictions of hopkins winning (see below), and even schooling him. like i said an espn media poll of 'experts' had hopkins favoured 13-12, boxing news picked hopkins, terry dooley picked hopkins, danny flexen, roy jones etc, it was hardly some fringe opinion

and sure, there are extreme assertions out there of what kov would do, but you can find almost any opinion on a forum. btw, i dont mean to 'call out' anyone with these quotes, but just to show that it was hardly just super fringe opinion at the time that hopkins would win or have a good shot, posts like these were all over other forums and i had no problem finding them here too.

this is all just from a few threads that came up right away on the british, so not including all the picks hopkins got from americans

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑02 Nov 2014, 20:49 The pot shot counters will keep Kovalev honest. I'm expecting a schooling here.

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑30 Oct 2014, 15:47 Good luck and I hope you win but I really think Hopkins is going to pull off the "shock"

J wrote: ↑06 Nov 2014, 08:49 See thefootage ofthe overhand right that dropped Krusher? He is gonna them all night long, like tarver did.
Hopkins ud.

el_grande_mauro_mina wrote: ↑06 Nov 2014, 07:04 I think Hopkins is going to school him, old man this Russian big time.

Coco wrote: ↑07 Nov 2014, 16:13 Hopkins will take him into the deep water and drown him.

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑06 Sep 2014, 12:25 Hopkins isn't KOing anybody. He's said it before he tries for the KO and it doesn't come. That's why he's the Alien now rather than the executioner, because he just doesn't stop guys anymore.

Hopkins UD.

Ezzard wrote: ↑03 Sep 2014, 12:08 I'm picking Hopkins. Power punchers he can deal with. It's industry he hates.

Hagler2002 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2014, 15:50 Hopkins on points for me.Plodding forward throwing bombs with total disregard for your opponent is in my opinion wild and will ultimately be his downfall.

ShadrachSimmo wrote: ↑08 Nov 2014, 17:57 I've a feeling Hopkins may pull it off here.

jamiedavies02 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2014, 13:43
Watched a bit of Kovalev, think he's absolutely made for Hopkins to systematically break down. Hype job for me until he proves otherwise.

G0mez wrote: ↑03 Sep 2014, 11:55 Styles - and it's hard to pick against Hopkins.

higgs88 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2014, 12:24 BHop UD

brian13 wrote: ↑07 Nov 2014, 09:18 Hopkins MD

cocobongo wrote: ↑29 Oct 2014, 08:47 Hopkins UD

baron_otto wrote: ↑29 Oct 2014, 14:02
Hopkins SD

DazDiCanio wrote: ↑04 Nov 2014, 07:06 BHop UD

jrudsy wrote: ↑30 Oct 2014, 07:42 Hopkins SD

macaca wrote: ↑03 Nov 2014, 00:15 BHop SD

Final round wrote: ↑03 Sep 2014, 12:14

Ezzard wrote:I'm picking Hopkins. Power punchers he can deal with. It's industry he hates.

I've got to agree with you.
It'll be rough and ragged but Hopkins has the knowledge and no-how to negate Kovalev's power for 12 rounds.

Roars Like Me wrote: ↑07 Nov 2014, 06:18 if Kov can be put on his ass then Hopkins is definitely sneaky enough to do that on route to a points victory. It will be close mind as Kovalev will try until the last second of the fight.

Gazmac81 wrote: ↑03 Sep 2014, 09:22 i wouldnt be too surprised that Hopkins wins on points , he boxes on the back foot goes on little walks and pot shots with rights

if kovalev doesnt catch him clean then does he have the stamina output to outwork hopkins ???

Really Kovalev should nail him but Hopkins isnt a normal Boxer.

i had never saw Shumonev before but Hopkins made him look extremley Clueless,

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑03 Sep 2014, 10:19 On the fence. He should lose in theory but Hopkins can negate any man's power and work rate at any age

SteveDow wrote: ↑03 Sep 2014, 17:45 I'd never write Hopkins off against anyone and to say he has no chance is just foolish. Kovalev is a beast without question but he's been in with no-one anywhere near the calibre of Hopkins. I make this a 50-50 fight and so will be backing Hopkins at 5/2. I know it was only a flash knockdown but Kovalev being caught in his last fight doesn't exactly fill me with confidence as to his chances. No way he stops Hopkins either. He only wins by out working him.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑06 Sep 2014, 09:07 Hopkins has a way of taking other fighters game away from them. I think Kovalev is the favourite and should be, but Hopkins is a master at doing it ugly and spoiling the other fighters tactics. I can definitely see Hopkins winning an ugly decision if he manages to get through the first few rounds without taking a beating.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 22:03 As far as Hopkins vs Kovalev goes, I did think Hopkins would win.

Given what Ward did to Kovalev, I don't think anyone can disagree that prime Hopkins beats him.

I saw those flaws in Kovalev and thought that Hopkins, who had in fact declined more than I realized would win. In hindsight, Hopkins was being flattered by fairly convincing wins over lower level competition in Cloud, Murat and Shumenov. The Hopkins who beat Pavlik in 2008 schools Kovalev for me.

Blodhemn wrote: ↑07 Aug 2018, 19:18

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 22:03 As far as Hopkins vs Kovalev goes, I did think Hopkins would win.

Given what Ward did to Kovalev, I don't think anyone can disagree that prime Hopkins beats him.

I saw those flaws in Kovalev and thought that Hopkins, who had in fact declined more than I realized would win. In hindsight, Hopkins was being flattered by fairly convincing wins over lower level competition in Cloud, Murat and Shumenov. The Hopkins who beat Pavlik in 2008 schools Kovalev for me.

Ah, you were dead wrong but somehow manage to convince yourself that you were right and in the end Hopkins beats Kovalev emphatically. The 360 is complete.

geronimo wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 02:52 I wanna introduce this topic: how good is Kovalev? I watch his record and i find that he beat good opponent, but not a real champion. Everyone, not so long ago, thought that he was the number one of his division. Now the things are so much different. What do you think about that?

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 02:48 Kovalev was good, but he has always had limitations like barely using hooks and uppercuts, poor inside fighting, losing balance when missing. Funny that he worked on hooks before Alvarez fight and tried to use them much more than usual.

As Virgil Hunter mentioned, Kovalev's big mistake was his trainer choices.

x2x wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 00:46

geronimo wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 02:52 I wanna introduce this topic: how good is Kovalev? I watch his record and i find that he beat good opponent, but not a real champion. Everyone, not so long ago, thought that he was the number one of his division. Now the things are so much different. What do you think about that?

He beat Ward twice, phony crooked Mafia Vegas judges and referees notwithstanding. most people in the know agree that he won the first Ward fight on points, and Ward should have been disqualified for repeated low blows in the second.

Yeah, i know this has been hashed and rehashed a hundred times already, but in boxing they commit their crimes and then it's like it's written in stone. Well not just boxing unfortunately. Boxing is the least of it.

geronimo wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 03:39

x2x wrote: ↑09 Aug 2018, 00:46

geronimo wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 02:52 I wanna introduce this topic: how good is Kovalev? I watch his record and i find that he beat good opponent, but not a real champion. Everyone, not so long ago, thought that he was the number one of his division. Now the things are so much different. What do you think about that?

He beat Ward twice, phony crooked Mafia Vegas judges and referees notwithstanding. most people in the know agree that he won the first Ward fight on points, and Ward should have been disqualified for repeated low blows in the second.

Yeah, i know this has been hashed and rehashed a hundred times already, but in boxing they commit their crimes and then it's like it's written in stone. Well not just boxing unfortunately. Boxing is the least of it.

For me Ward won the First match, by one point, just like the judges score. In the second match, we can argue about the low blows, but Kovalev was hurt badly before the KO.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑10 Aug 2018, 05:42 Great God given talent but partially wasted due to personality issues causing not listening to trainers, not training hard enough. Strong rumors about alcohol abuse.