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Was actually looking forward to this...

The amount if times BJS’ fights have been cancelled. Twice this year.

Wouldlve been a good fight lads

was a good matchup for sure and was esp interested in seeing what andrade had at this level

btw, if andrade beats this namibian fellow for the wbo title, he has to be up there for having one of the weaker records about 3 time world champs

i know he looks a talent, but were talking career best wins over jack culcay and vanes mart

wouldve loved to see what he had vs a clear world level middleweight

If he gets stripped of his belt he's gonna find it hard to get back in a mandatory position as I can't see many people wanting to box bill. He won't bring a lot to the table and he would be a hard fight for any middleweight out there

Kugan will be at FW office tomorrow even before the cleaners get there.

smiling assassin wrote: ↑09 Oct 2018, 17:37 If he gets stripped of his belt he's gonna find it hard to get back in a mandatory position as I can't see many people wanting to box bill. He won't bring a lot to the table and he would be a hard fight for any middleweight out there

Hard to have any sympathy, he's held that belt hostage.

That’s Bursak, Anvil, Murray and now Andrade.

I know not all have been Bill’s fault. I have heard some conspiracy theories though.

Glass Joe wrote: ↑09 Oct 2018, 17:55 Kugan will be at FW office tomorrow even before the cleaners get there.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 02:02 That’s Bursak, Anvil, Murray and now Andrade.

I know not all have been Bill’s fault. I have heard some conspiracy theories though.

Do tell

JimJim2009 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 03:25

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 02:02 That’s Bursak, Anvil, Murray and now Andrade.

I know not all have been Bill’s fault. I have heard some conspiracy theories though.

Do tell

The Anvil fight. Some forums, not boxrec, had posters saying Frank W. dug into Anvil's past and stitched him up.

samwbr wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 01:32

smiling assassin wrote: ↑09 Oct 2018, 17:37 If he gets stripped of his belt he's gonna find it hard to get back in a mandatory position as I can't see many people wanting to box bill. He won't bring a lot to the table and he would be a hard fight for any middleweight out there

Hard to have any sympathy, he's held that belt hostage.

Yeah he has mate but I think we would of seen him in big fights from here on in. I bet he don't want to be in this sport a lot longer and a run of a few big fights would get him home serious readies

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 03:32

JimJim2009 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 03:25

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 02:02 That’s Bursak, Anvil, Murray and now Andrade.

I know not all have been Bill’s fault. I have heard some conspiracy theories though.

Do tell

The Anvil fight. Some forums, not boxrec, had posters saying Frank W. dug into Anvil's past and stitched him up.

Absolutely no chance. Those sort of investigations take months, if not years.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 03:40

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 03:32

JimJim2009 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 03:25

Do tell

The Anvil fight. Some forums, not boxrec, had posters saying Frank W. dug into Anvil's past and stitched him up.

Absolutely no chance. Those sort of investigations take months, if not years.

Hey, it's not my theory.. and it's not always the case it can even take a matter of days if you know the right people.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 03:46

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 03:40

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 03:32

The Anvil fight. Some forums, not boxrec, had posters saying Frank W. dug into Anvil's past and stitched him up.

Absolutely no chance. Those sort of investigations take months, if not years.

Hey, it's not my theory.. and it's not always the case it can even take a matter of days if you know the right people.

We’re talking about Khurtsidze, right? He was done under RICO and they arrested like 30 people at the same time under a variety of charges. No chance they could have gotten all the evidence together so quickly.

Plus I’m sure FW would never do anything so underhand

Grassing is f*cking dirty

Doubt anyone could get khurtsidze on all that so quick

Anything could happen with the WBO appeal.

Personally, if I had BJS on board I would say to the WBO I would never work with promoting their title again if they stripped them and hurt them in the pocket, otherwise, I don't see BJS goes from here.

Glass Joe wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 04:22 Anything could happen with the WBO appeal.

Personally, if I had BJS on board I would say to the WBO I would never work with promoting their title again if they stripped them and hurt them in the pocket, otherwise, I don't see BJS goes from here.

Would be a ballsy move from FW. Most of his champs over the last 20 years have come from the WBO - as well as the plethora of easy title defences.

Yea can't see Frank f*cking the wbo up

maverick23 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 05:24

Glass Joe wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 04:22 Anything could happen with the WBO appeal.

Personally, if I had BJS on board I would say to the WBO I would never work with promoting their title again if they stripped them and hurt them in the pocket, otherwise, I don't see BJS goes from here.

Would be a ballsy move from FW. Most of his champs over the last 20 years have come from the WBO - as well as the plethora of easy title defences.

Frank W. helped legitimize WBO as one of the top 4 orgs!

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 02:02 That’s Bursak, Anvil, Murray and now Andrade.

I know not all have been Bill’s fault. I have heard some conspiracy theories though.

Khurtsidze got done by an FBI investigation going back years. They had surveillance from six different states & three countries. The sting that got his boss involving the five tons of stolen chocolate was an elaborate set-up that apparently took years to arrange, FFS.

33 other people went down with him. Anyone who sees the Dread Hand of Fwank behind this is a fuckin' idiot, & probably the sort of person who now posts in the Off-Topic Forum on this board.

Oiky wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 03:59 Grassing is f*cking dirty

Doubt anyone could get khurtsidze on all that so quick

Snitches get stitches

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 05:58

Oiky wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 03:59 Grassing is f*cking dirty

Doubt anyone could get khurtsidze on all that so quick

Snitches get stitches

And rightly so

It's odd that there has been no official comment.

No tweets from BJS, no comment from Hearn or official statement from DAZN or Matchroom. Nothing from allegedly.

Very odd. Almost a bit too quiet.

Oiky wrote: ↑10 Oct 2018, 05:33 Yea can't see Frank f*cking the wbo up

He needs their WBO european and inter titles too much. Keeps his fighters from facing proper opposition.